External LaCie Drives

I have a MacPro (late 2013) running OS10.10.1 with 2 external LaCie drives (2tb Little Big Drive and 4 tb D2) connected via Thunderbolt. The problem is that these drives regularly eject themselves and I get the message about not ejecting the disc correctly.
I'm not sure if this is a LaCie issue or MacPro Thunderbolt issue - this is my first experience with Thunderbolt. Any ideas?

I have four La Cie TB externals connected without issues over the past 1.5 years. Here's my Energy pane screen shot.

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Using time capsule to backup FCP files on External Lacie drives

Has anyone done this with any measure of success? I have my FCP projects on 3 to 4 external Lacie drives and I want to back them up onto my 1 TB TC. It seems TC only backs up the internal HD and not external HD's. Is my only option to drag the data onto TC without any hope of a regular back up?
Any suggestions would be helpful
Thanks

Unfortunately I won't be able to tell you too much about time machine. I don't use it. I use another utility to clone my internal HD once a day. I use Carbon Copy Cloner which is scheduled to do an "incremental backup" (only what's changed since the last sync) every day at 4 pm. You could do this same sort of thing via Time Machine. It's just a slightly different paradigm as far as back up strategies go. So it's sort of an either/or: Time Machine vs. CCC.
Then, you'd use ChronoSync to handle the external to Time Capsule. Actually you could use ChronoSync to do the internal to Time Capsule as long as you're, basically telling it to, "make this folder look just like 'this other' folder". ChronoSync can do it all as long as you're NOT talking about making and preserving bootable clones. If you're only trying to do a bunch of "mirroring" then ChronoSync could be "one-stop-shopping".
Hope that makes sense.
Not sure about "drobo"? Google search leads me to believe it's an external Hard Drive? If so, no. I haven't used it. But there's no reason why ChronoSync wouldn't talk to it and function just fine.

My external LaCie drive gets an error message "the disc you inserted was not readable by this computer." The only options offered are "ignore" or "eject" Disk Utility sees the disc but does not give a repair option. What can I do?

When I plug in my external LaCie drive I get an error message "the disc you inserted was not readable by this computer."
The only options offered are "ignore" or "eject"
Disk Utility sees the disc but does not give a repair option.
What can I do?

The good thing about mac-centric resellers such as OWC, is they have people on staff that can answer questions without you buying things first. They also have how-to information, and instructions are included in many of their products. I saw a link to watch a DIY video in one of their pages; an example of a RAID (with its own power supply) is shown on their drives page. Also a few in there, with no power supplies, for less money.
If I were looking to backup and perhaps also have a partition for a system clone, I'd consider something like one of these: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW400_USB
Some ideas on the RAID backup methods appear in google search, some of the pages are ideas and concepts; and the better ones also warn about using RAID for the only backup plan.
Oh, OWC has live chat. Haven't tried it, nor have I bought anything from them. I have what appears to be two products from them, but have not used either. One is in a box as-new, but has only USB2.0 ports & my Macs needed FW400/800. It has been said their RAM is a good way to upgrade, too. But I can't confirm!
A 'RAID-ready' unit for backup may be more versatile for just that, but I have not checked into these details. I use single HDDs in powered enclosures, and usually manually make backup clones to FW drives, of bootable OS X systems. Some of the OWC raid-ready use eSATA ports so that may not be viable for a computer without them.
The unused in-box external drive I have is like the base model in the link above. However mine is USB2.0 (maybe) and won't boot my older Macs due to hardware variance; and my preference would be for FireWire options, these models do offer that. But the one I have does not. Dual 500GB HDDs, and they could be used in tandem as a RAID. That would be a choice set up in software. I'm not sure and not interested enough to read up just now.
My backup method is not automatic, or a moving backup plan, if I don't get a move-on and make full system clones. I do make copies of photos and documents the manual way, to USB external drives; and occasionally backup to DVD or CD media. And USB flash, that helps to move files between computers without need to use file sharing via wi-fi. {Like Why fly? Walking is better exercise unless one is a bird. Squawk!}
https://www.google.com/#q=raid+backup+mac
Depending on the ports in your Mac, you may be able to use other cables to attach between a backup or externally enclosed hard disk drive with multiple partition and bootable clone in one of them. Not sure about the Thunderbolt, and where that is the main port, adapters are required to access other devices, as allowed.
Anyway, I am going on and on, yet not really saying anything.
My ideas would not be all that interesting to follow as a backup
plan when matching available newer hardware to task, but you
can get some into better ideas if you are not in a rush. Get a
good setup and then look into more an betterer stuff.
Good luck & happy computing!

USB quits after 10.4.11 update and can't read external Lacie drive contents

Performed update through Software Updater. (After reading this forum, I now know better for future updates) Now, my USB ports don't work and external Lacie drive looks blank. Plugged USB devices into PC and they work fine. From PC on same network, I can see all the files on the Lacie. Repaired disk permissions, shut down and unplugged everything, even power cord, and let it "think" for several hours. Still same problems. USB lights up for a few seconds then shuts down. Tried all USB ports, same problem. I can connect to external HD but it appears that all the files are gone.

Still not working.
I ran applejack, then re-installed the combo upgrade for 10.4.11, gave it several restarts, still no USB power or access to external HD. One thing that I notice, when starting up and the grey screen is up, the USB is lit. As soon as the little clock thing starts "running" in a circle, the lights go out. If I unplug then re-plug the USB devices, the lights come on for just a few seconds and then go out. Same results with and without USB hub in both ports. This is our old machine used mostly by kids for iTunes so we must attach the iPod to it or they will be on the new iMac, fresh out of the box!
BTW, we were 'tricked' into this upgrade. iTunes gave an error message saying that we had to upgrade or some features would no longer work. After the upgrade, iTunes said it would not load until we upgraded the OS X. I just jumped from 10.4.3 to 10.4.11 because that was the latest version. I have always trusted Apple and never had a problem, until now

Issue With Backing Up Video Onto External LaCie Drive

I captured some video onto my external LaCie Drive. I am now backing everything up onto a second LaCie drive, but some files will not copy over. I've tried copying to my desktop and then to that drive but that does not work either. I get a pop-up saying,
"Sorry, the operation could not be completed because an unexpected error occured (Error Code 0)"
Any idea what's causing this?

Did you reformat both drives to MacOS Extended?
If not, that could be part of your problem. LaCie sells a lot of drives and some of them come as MS-DOS compatible (aka FAT-32 formatted) which causes all sorts of problems with Mac systems.
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External Lacie drive

Is there a way to make the external Lacie drive power up when i start my mac? It is connected firewire.

LaCie Drives are supposed to sleep when your computer goes to sleep or shuts down. So you just leave the drive on all the time. But, this seems to be broken in 10.5.0, search "lacie sleep". Guess we'll have to wait for an update.

What is the circled number one under my drive icon on the desktop? I recently hooked up an external LaCie drive and hope I didn't partition my main drive somehow by mistake.

I noticed after installing an external LaCie Drive, that a circled number 1 appears under my drive icon on the desktop that was never there before. I have a iMac G5. I go to Disk Utility at times to erase or burn a disk. Could I have somehow partitioned my hard drive or what / why is that number appearing or is it normal? Thanks and I hope I didn't screw up the drive cause I'm a newbie and would hate to have to delete and reinstall. Could I have a tired machine? I have lots of GB's left and machine at times acts strange like will record something and default it to iMovie slide show unless I wasn't careful what file was open at the time. Can you tell me what the number means?

Try renameing it, but you might also check this...
n Finder's Menu, select Go menu>Go to Folder, and go to "/volumes". (no quotes)
Volumes is where an alias to your hard drive ("/" at boot) is placed at startup, and where all the "mount points" for auxiliary drives are created for you to access them. This folder is normally hidden from view.
Drives with an extra 1 on the end have a side-effect of mounting a drive with the same name as the system already think exists. Try trashing the duplicates with a 1 or 2 if there are no real files in them, and reboot.
If it does contain data...
http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2474

I have suddenly become unable to access photo library iPhoto (vers 9.5) on my external drive. And time Machine will no longer back up to the same external (LaCie) drive. Appreciate all suggestions. The drive does show up on my desktop....

I have suddenly become unable to access photo library (iPhoto vers 9.5) on my external hard drive. Also time machine isnt backing up to same external hard drive (LaCie). The drive does show up on the desk top, but when i open iPhoto the library isnt listed, so I cant option click.

First, one should not try to run an iPhoto library from the same volume/drive that is being used by Time Machine for backups. TM will continue to fill up the drive thus squeezing out iPhoto from being able to be opened and used. Also that doesn't allow you to let TM backup your library as it does with other files on your boot drive.
If you partition the EHD into two separate partitions you can run the library from it but that won't let TM backup the library which is important.
Are you able to see the library on the EHD via the Finder? If so copy it back to your boot drive and open it there. You may have to do some fixing on it.
Solution is to either run the library from the boot drive or get a second EHD to run the library from and let TM back it up along with your boot drive.
OT

External Lacie drive won't mount

I have a older Lacie 160GB LaCie P3 extrenal drive that I can't mount. There never has been an issue with mounting it before in the method described below.
Here is what happened:
I turned the drive on but the firewire was not connected so I turned the Lacie drive off.
I connected the firewire and turned the Lacie on and the (partitioned) drive mounted on the desktop.
I was looking through the files when I got the error message that the drive was disconnected without being properly ejected which I didn't do.
I tried turning the Lacie drive off and on but it won't mount. I get the same flashing light on the Lacie drive that I had before connecting the firewire.
I tried Disk Utility but it can't see the drive.
I tried connecting to my laptop but it doesn't mount there either or show up in disk utility.
Questions:
Any idea how I can get it to mount?
Is there any risk of damage to the data by turning it on and off in an effort to get it to mount. I can hear it running.
Thank you

LIkely (very) your SATA card is fried inside the box for same.
External HD are very easy to diagnose. Bad USB cable (on commercial sold USB drives) almost doesn’t exist anymore.
External USB HD have 4 'parts' (not counting the HD internals)
1. USB cable (never an issue anymore, approaching 100%)
2. HD enclosure.....a plastic or metal box which cannot ever be an issue.
3. the HD itself
4. ....and last but not least is the epicenter of 'weak links' ,.....a SATA card/bridge that is connected to the HD inside the HD box, the size of a stick of gum, with SATA female on one side, and female USB on the other side, containing circuitry for data transfer between the SATA on the HD and to USB on the other.
While these bridge cards are better than they used to be, theyre still insanely unreliable.
There are literally probably MORE than 100,000 perfect external hard drives out there thrown away every year because people assume the "hard drive is bad" when really they could crack open the HD enclosure, remove the HD and put the good HD into a new enclosure.
See this video of the SATA CARD, its at 8:55min. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pS_EDsP2KI
All conventional HD external are nearly 100% like the video above.
See pic below,..a (much larger) SATA card as found inside a typical HD enclosure ($20 ebay)
This is the nasty piece pictured below causing all the "crazy" activity seen on external HD, very odd behaviour, some have called it "haunted hard drive syndrome". Random ejects, random strange vanishing of the HD , especially in mid transfer of data.
the card attached to the TOP of the HD plugs in, that the SATA bridge

External Lacie drive crashed, now I can't find a recent backup for LR3 catalog.

I have LR3 on a Mac running OS 10.6.8. My catalog, cache and images were stored on an external Lacie 1TB drive (partitioned so it can be used by a pc and mac). My catalog backup files were saved on another external drive MXTR as well as copies of all my images. The Lacie had started self ejecting while running LR3 and I thought it was maybe a problem with the cable, as it would work fine after rebooting. Yesterday it crashed LR3 and never remounted. I used Disk Utility to try and repair the disk and it instructed me to erase the disk and start over. I was not worried, since my catalog was backed up to another drive. 10 hours to erase the drive (the drive never quit during this time). Another 2 hours to copy my images from the MXTR to the Lacie (again the drive never self ejected during this time either). So now I go to find my most recent backup catalog. The most recent one I could find was dated 2/09/2012. I am baffled. What happened all those times I was backing up? I upgraded to LR3 in 2011, and I don't remember ever telling it to backup to another folder or drive.
Any ideas as to what the problem may be?

What happened all those times I was backing up?
We can't possibly know what happend or where your backups are. But you can indeed search all of your available hard disks and see if there are any files named *.LRCAT with recent dates.
By the way, I would be extremely wary of using that Lacie drive any more. If it was me, I'd replace it.

External Lacie drive - Multiple connections?

Hi All,
I have an external Lacie 160Gb drive attached to my iBook. At the moment I daisy chain it with my EyeTV, plugging the EyeTv directly into my computer. When I have the TV on this obviously takes up some bandwidth in the firewire (400) cable and any other use of the disk can be slowed. I also record from the TV to the external disk.
My question is, as the external disc has multiple connectors is it possible to connect both firewire (via the EyeTV) and also a USB cable directly to my iBook? - will this speed up the connection or will my machine only "see" it once?
Thanks to anyone who can help...
Rob

Sounds about right.
Daisy-chaining FireWire components means that they have to negotiate for bandwidth. Using USB might speed things up by using the bandwidth of both busses. However - I'm not sure if Apple has dedicated or shared (like a hub) USB ports. If it's shared, then it would have to negotiate for bandwidth with any other USB devices and/or your trackpad (which is a USB device). A low-speed device (like a mouse) would eat up a lot of bandwidth that might be used for transferring 300 times more high-speed data, although it's usually only for short periods of time.

Backup with Timemachine on external LaCie drive

Hi,
Time Machine doesn´t recognice the external 500 GB LaCie drive. It only shows another external firewire drive I have not enough space on(80 GB). But otherwise I can see that drive and also can read on write on it. So why does time machine not see ths drive?

Your LaCie FireWire, USB, or eSATA drive should work fine with Time Machine if prepared properly.
Here are a few things to take into consideration:
Sometimes the user may not have partitioned and formatted their drive correctly; the drive should be partitioned using Apple Partition Scheme or GUID Partition Scheme, but not Master Boot Record. These are all partitioning options within Apple Disk Utility, the version that is part of both Leopard as well as Tiger. Earlier versions of Apple Disk Utility did not support all these partitioning options. Users should make sure that the current version of the Apple Disk Utility is used to partition their drive. Note well: GUID partition scheme is only useful for Intel based Macs. After partitioning, then the user should make sure the disk is formatted as Mac OS Extended. This is the best format to use for all Mac related functionality, especially backups
At the last minute, Apple removed the ability to backup to a network share. This limitation did not exist in the developer versions released before October 29. It is reported that Apple removed this capability since there were stability issues. Backing up to network shares is highly desired, but should be bullet-proof before relying on this method of backing up.
Users should avoid special characters in volume and folder names when setting up their backup drive. Users should limit their names to A-Za-z0-9 characters. Use of other characters as well as spaces could result in problems. I expect that Apple may come up with a technote to clarify what characters should be used.
The above tips are suggestions for best use of Time Machine with LaCie drives.
Mike

Moving Movies, Pics and Music to point to External Lacie Drive

HELP....
My IMAC hard drive is getting full and affecting the performance of my IMAC. I bought a Lacie Hard Drive 500G and have Time Machine backing up my full desktop. I would like to physically move and re-point my ITunes, IPhoto and IMovie Libraries to my Lacie drive (thus freeing up a lot of hard drive space on my IMAC).
Is this a wise thing to do (is there a better way) and if so how do I do it?

Not exactly. We are going to need some more information about your setup to give you a more accurate recommendation. What size internal hard drive do you have? Are you using iTunes and iPhoto to organize your photos? The preferred scenario would be to keep all of your music and photos at least on your system drive because of the way iTunes, and iPhoto Libraries work. Then have your Lacie running Time Machine as a backup. This way everything is backed up on two drives. Now if you deal with large amounts of movies and photos that just eat up too much space on your system drive then yes a second external would be the better option. My recommendation is to just store movies, photos, and other large files that are not part of an iTunes or iPhoto library on the external so that you are not trying to move or relocate any libraries.
George

Problems saving iTunes library to external LaCie drive

Not sure if this is posted in the correct place, but I am having problems backing up my iTunes library to an external drive. I have a MacBook Pro running OS 10.4.11, and a LaCie 250GB external drive. I have saved all other files (PDF, text, picures, etc) by dragging and dropping onto the LaCie desktop icon, but when I try to transfer my iTunes music files they won't copy to the hard drive. Dragging and dropping the files doesn't seem to work, and I tried backing up my library in iTunes, but it only prompts me to burn them to a disk (not the hard drive). The LaCie drive is the "rugged" model/ USB 2.0.
Can anybody help with this?
-Thanks

I would check to see what type of file system your external drives are formatted for.
Use the Disk Utility in OSX to see what it is. If its a Lacie Drive, I'm guessing its already pre-formatted to work with MAC.
Make sure its HPFS and not something like FAT or FAT32 or NTFS which are all Windows based file systems.
If you find your drive is formatted with FAT, FAT32 or NTFS, you should format your drive, but that will mean erasing any data is on it. So you will need to move the data off before you format the drive. Format it using the Disk Utility in OSX.
There are limitations as well with the file format, I would search Wikipedia to see a comparison of the different file formats.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparisonof_filesystems

HELP! External Lacie Drive wont mount!

Hi Guys,
I have a really important problem. I'm currently working with two 4Big Lacie Drives. Both drives were working fine last week. But I go to turn it on today and the 8TB drive (the other being a 4TB), wont mount. This drive has been working fine for about a month. It hasn't been knocked or anything, and was locked away over the weekend.
Today the drive can be seen in Disk Utility but I cant repair or verify the disk. And the one partition it has doesn't show up like its sister drive does. I have tried different power supplies and cables, as well as connecting it to another mac.
It is really important I get this drive working, as I am working to a tight deadline and fear I do not have time to re-format and then re-copy all 8TB of video I need onto this drive (FYI my files are backed up but in another location).
Please let me know any thoughts sASAP. And sorry if I havent included enough info.
Thanks,
Phil.

Most likely the external AC power supply brick is bad. If the drive is under warranty LaCie will replace the brick no charge and if it is not they sell the supplies on their website for around $20 US.

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