External midi

how can you stop getting signal constantly coming through an external midi track? (ie. rewired reason instrument) I don't want to mute the track cause I still want to hear playback of what I've laid down but I don't want the external midi signal continuing to be triggered if I've selected a new track to be record in! Please help!!!

Thanks for the reply.... I had a hunch there was an easy solution! just didn't realize that logic could still generate the audio even with all the control surfaces off in reason so I went into the reason prefs and unchecked all control surfaces and now it's beautiful....ahh yes!!!!

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Using a second computer as a external midi instrument or DAW slave?

So this is my current setup:
iMac 24(FW 800 & 400) with logic 8 & reason 4,
Focusrite Saffire Pro 40 firewire (x2) sound card/pre-amp,
Blackbook with MainStage & Reason 4.
& this is what I would like to do:
Use my imac as my main DAW master, (currently tracking to an external FW800 drive & pulling loops from a USB drive), & use my blackbook to run reason as a external midi device or slave.
My Saffire Pro 40 has 2xFW400 ports so I can connect both machines to it.
The idea behind this setup is to pull as many software sounds from the Blackbook & mainly use the imac to run Logic.
Does this make sense? & if so, what's the best way to execute this?
thanks in advance

Hello -
I'm not entirely sure that one audio device such as the Saffire Pro 40 with 2 Firewire ports can be shared between two computers. It was always my impression that the second Firewire port was available to "daisy chain" another audio device or hard drive. Before you proceed, you might want to check with the company that manufactures the Saffire Pro 40 and make sure that two computers can interphase with it.
With regards to using a second computer as a "slave machine", it seems that many, many people do have such configurations to help spread the CPU and memory work-load. My happy Mac Pro is set up to work with a potential of two other "slave machines". When I use this set up, it works wonderfully. But, for most of the time, my happy Mac Pro can manage most sequencing projects (mostly orchestral with LOTS of instruments) on its own. Each computer, however, has its own audio device. All are connected to the Mac Pro using the ADAT light inputs/outputs from each audio device (I use MOTU's audio devices) and are managed midi-wise using Music Lab's MOLCP 3.
Good luck. . .

External MIDI device, can't get more than one sound, Logic Express 9 & Korg N364

Hi, I just beginning to use Logic. I trying to get Logic Express 9 to work with and use my Korg N364 keyboard/workstation as an external MIDI device. I can only get one sound at a time even though I create multiple tracks and assign different programs (or patches) to them.
Each time I do the following: I add a new external MIDI track, change the Channel to new number, put a check in the Program box ( as well as the Volume & Pan), and choose a instrument or patch from the Program drop down menu. What happens, though, it changes the sound to that instrument alright, but ALL THE PREVIOUS EXTERNAL MIDI TRACKS HAVE THE SAME SOUND NOW. I've followed the tutorials I found on the web and it seems like I'm doing everything correct in Logic. I hooked up the MIDI cables, added a new device and connected virtual cables in the MIDI studio window of my Mac OS, and have added the proper Korg multi instrument in the environment window of Logic and "un-slashed" the 16 channels. I get the sounds from the Korg no problem, it's just that I can only assign one sound and no more to the external MIDI tracks. Is there something in my Korg I need to do? Or am I missing something in Logic?

It's not Logic, it's how you have the Korg setup.
I'm not familiar with that model but it is a workstation so I'm pretty sure you can set it to a "Multi" mode.
Right now you are running it in single patch mode.
In single patch mode only one sound is available on a single MIDI channel, your Korg probably has a Multi or Combi mode, this is where multiple sounds can be played, each sound has to have it's own MIDI channel.
You will need to set this up on the Korg first.

When I try to open a project, the only option for a new track is for external MIDI device; when I try to open an audio or software instrument track, I get an error message saying that "the specified number of tracks could not be created. Reduce the n

When I try to open a project, the only option for a new track is for external MIDI device; when I try to open an audio or software instrument track, I get an error message saying that "the specified number of tracks could not be created. Reduce the number of tracks to create and try again." I didn't specify ANY number of tracks. Thanks for help!

Ah.. then I suspect you just need to go to Logic's prefs/Audio and check CoreAudio...
It has been unchecked somehow...
Also.. as an aside.. Be careful not to create such large subject names in future when posting here.. They can cause issues with replying to posts in such threads.. due to a bug in the forum software.. so please keep them short and to the point...
Cheers..
Nigel

Why does Playback stop when I have an external MIDI channel?

I finally have to try to sync up external gear with Mainstage 2.2.2. This time it's sending midi clock to an Akai MPK25. I set up the external midi instrument channel, set the channel's midi out to port 1 on the Akai, set the Akai to external clock. The Akai seems to pick up the tempo (mostly) but my Playback instances that start with Play action cut out after about 1 measure (yes they're set to Loop).
Doesn't mater which instance. The clock keeps going but there's a substantial lag to the transport controls. After a few seconds I can retrigger the Playback that stopped and then it loops as it should.
As soon as I delete the external midi strip, everything is back to normal. Has anyone else experienced this? Is it fixable? Maybe an Akai thing?
I've wrestled with MS to get it gig-worthy for a year and some new bug always seems to pop up.
System:
iMac 20" Core2Duo 2GHz, 4GB RAM

I try 2/3 things.
- monitor sleep after 1 minute
- computer sleep after 3h
- itunes playing songs
.....after a minute, monitor sleep and so does itunes....
VLC doesn't have this issu (luckyly)....

External midi interface connection. Please HELP!!!!

Hi,
I just got the iMac 20 inch widescreen, primaritly for use in my recording studio.
I have tried on three different occasions, to install an external midi interface (MOTU Micro Lite), but it is not recognised in the system's midi set up window, and it's driving me nuts! Can someone please tell me what to do. Maybe I'm not getting some things properly set up before the installation.
The MOTU installation cd says it is compatible with Mac OS X operating system.

You've posted in the OS X Server area.
Any special reason why ?
Did you install the software for the device ? :P
http://www.motu.com/products/midi/lite/body.html/view?searchterm=mac%20AND%20OS% 20AND%20X
Your next stop should be (and should have been)
http://www.motu.com/techsupport
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Extern midi useless: miditiming in sync with audio, is it possible?

using a UAD-1 latency is a big issue here. Is it possible to have extern miditiming in sync when you use groups? With full pdc miditiming is useless, with pdc on tracks & instr works until you put some UAD plugin on a bus and compensate it with track advance to get the audio sync again; now extern midi is way early. This means that with any plugin; extern midi timing will be compromised!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone tell me if there is a way to sync midi and audio and still use groups?
Without a workaround Logic Pro is useless. What a mess; instruments dropping out, serious miditiming issues, au validation issues... I'm getting a bit desperate here.
regards
Budy

yes, i know - that's been discussed on this forum though it is not something i feel strongly conversant, only to say that i believe there are ways round the problem.
the site is www.logicprohelp.com
and if they can't help you then no-one can.
if it were me - and it has been when remixing older cues, i have simply put a delay (or by that i mean negative delay which brings it forward) on the midi tracks.
maybe this is not the best method, but you could record a midi generated click (ie a click track with your external module as the source), and then loop it in playback against klopfgeist, adjusting the delay setting until it is tight. this may not offer sample accurate precision, but midi is not capable of sample accurate precision anyway.
there are people out there who have this sorted, and my method worked fine for me, but if you do elctronic music such as house or whatever, then you may be concerned with really really tight timing in which case you might be looking for the "recognized" solution.
have real trawl through this forum - it's been discussed.

HELP! External MIDI is playing EARLY compared to the audio tracks!

Hi Guys
I have a project in L9 which has about 12 audio tracks, each running a few effects (fairly basic ones, nothing too heavy).
Tonight I am recording a rhythm part on an external MIDI device (my Kurzweil synth). I'm quantising this part to 1/8 notes, and in the piano roll editor, it's lining up perfectly after quantization.
However, when I play back the project, the MIDI is all EARLY!
I've tried soloing just the MIDI and the click, and the MIDI part runs uniformly early compared to the click track.
I believe this has something to do with the delay compensation that is in effect across all the audio channels... what's happening is that all the audio content is being delayed so all the tracks sync with each other. But for some reason, MIDI is not part of this delay compensation, and is playing in perfect time, and hence sounding early compared to the audio material.
I've done a test new project with just one MIDI track, and when quantized, it DOESN'T suffer this problem... ie, it aligns perfectly with the click track.
Is there any way to get external MIDI instruments to be part of the delay compensation process? Or is there some other solution to this issue?
Really desperate here as this has come out of the blue and I can't think of any way to solve it!
Thanks heaps guys,
Mike

yeloop wrote:
Is this something new for Logic 9?
I don't know, I have never used external MIDI with Logic (8 or 9) - but think it is new, yes.
I wonder if there's a way to set the global default for MIDI so that it always has delay compensation? I can't see why anyone would want to use an external MIDI device and not have it in perfect time with their audio material!
Yes, there is. You'll have to set it up in AMS first (choose *New Device*, and then configure the device and cable it) In Logic, you'll have to go into the Environment. You need a *Standard Instrument Object* for a monotimbral device, a, *Multi-Instrument Object* for multitimbral devices and a *Mapped Instrument object* for Drummodules. Explanation starts on pg 1082 of the LP9 pdf manual.
Once it is all setup, you can make a template of it, or you can import the Environment layer into new projects.
regards, Erik.
regards, Erik.

Monitoring 2 External Midi devices at playback

Hi, I'm a "Newbie," I have a MAC G5, Logic Express 7.1, a MOTU 828
(first generation) and 2 external midi devices (Triton Extr, and a Roland JV 880) I
can only monitor one of the devices at a time at playback - wichever channel
I have chosen in the MOTU preferences.
I know it was a challenge to set up Cubase to monitor both at the same time.
Is it possible in Logic Express?
Thanks for any help that might be had out there!
Borgy

Couple of things I don't understand about your question.
Are you running Vienna Ensemble on a separate computer? If not, why not use it as an AU plugin? If you have it installed on the same computer as Logic there would be no need to treat it as an external instrument. If you are running it on a separate machine double check the audio and MIDI hardware connections, drivers for both interfaces, Apple Audio/Midi Utility settings, environment, and finally the settings on your ext instrument (in the track.)
You mention being unable to hear VE when bouncing, but then you also mention that there is no signal from those tracks showing on the master fader. Is this specifically a problem when bouncing, or are you basically unable to hear and see signal from your VE tracks while recording, playing, mixing?
If VE runs smoothly from another computer (presumably to ease the burden on your main cpu) and you are able to hear it and see it at the master outputs just as you expect, and you ONLY have a problem when bouncing, then your solution is simple. Make sure that you bounce in "realtime" mode when including external instruments or fx. "Offline" mode will not include them.
Sorry if I'm covering stuff you know and have already tried; hopefully some portion of this info will help you.

Import midi and play to external midi

When I import a mid(i) file, it creates all the tracks and plays back through the system output. What I would like to do is play it to my USB attached external midi device.
I can do this by moving individually each track to a newly created External Midi type track but was hoping for an easier/faster way.

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Volume Problem when using external midi instruments

Hi everyone, I'm having a problem recording the audio from my external midi instruments into Logic 8.
I have all my external midi instruments set up in my environment and they are all going through a motu micro lite interface, with the audio going through a focusrite saffire pro 40.
The way I record Midi into Logic is to load up a new software instrument-select external instrument-find the relevant synth & input-record the midi that I want & adjust as needed-bounce down to an audio channel.
The problem Im having at the moment and have had for a little while is that when I record this way, the audio that accompanies the midi, although I can hear it loudly through my monitors, the input levels in Logic are really small and when I come to bouncing down and listen back to it, it is a lot quieter than I'd originally heard.
With the Pro 40 comes the Mix Control surface, upon checking this the volume on the master output channels is much more representative of the volume I'm hearing through my monitors, and it isn't the same within Logic. I've checked that I haven't got an output coming through channels on this at the same time as its coming through Logic which would result in the sound being doubled and obviously louder, this definitely doesn't appear to be the case.
Its really puzzling and quite annoying me, If anyone could shed any light on why this may be happening that would be fantastic, I've used this forum a few times and I've always found people to be very kind & helpful.

I've checked that I haven't got an output coming through channels on this at the same time as its coming through Logic which would result in the sound being doubled and obviously louder, this definitely doesn't appear to be the case.
It was the first thing I was thinking about. Stop the "Software Monitoring" in the Logic Prefs and try again if you do not have any duplicated hardware routings.
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How to control external MIDI multi-timbre device

I have an external midi device that has distinct buttons with which I can control on/off individual sounds. The device has a single midi channel but many different sounds that can be turned on/off in any combination - i.e., I can have two or more sounds turned on which the device mixes down to its stereo outputs.
Each specific sound has a name and can also be controlled with a midi message in the form of "Bn 49 xx" (on event) or "Bn 4A xx" (off event). I would like to be able to control these sounds from logic pro.
Note that I have refrained from calling these "sounds", "patches". A fundamental difference between a patch and a "sound" as I described above is that you can only select a single patch at the time - I need to be able to turn on/off any combination of these sounds.
Hope it is clear to someone what I am trying to do... your comments are most welcome.

After some serious support from Pancenter (thanks again!), I arrived at a working configuration using Apple’s Environment editor. In the hope that my learning experience is of use to someone else, hereby a quick write up.
My objective was to control the stops (programs) of two pipe organ modules from Logic Pro 9, preferably with a nice graphic interface. The modules are broken up into 3 sections that each have a direct midi channel. I already set them up on my midi controller and could play a midi file on them just fine but not the stops. Rather than a typical synth program switch, stops on an organ can be turned on/off in any combination thereby mixing the sounds together. The documentation I had showed these midi byte sequences for turning on/off a stop:
Bn 49 rr = stop on
Bn 4A rr = stop off
with ‘n’ being the midi channel, and ‘rr’ the hex code for a particular stop. With Pancenter’s help, I started playing around with a Fader/Button 3 on the “Click and Ports” layer from the Environment (command 8). A button can be used to send a variety of midi message types, in my case I need a Control message with its channel set to the appropriate midi channel of the pipe organ module (channel 2 for me). A midi control message has the form <control byte> <byte 1> <byte 2>. The byte 1 field holds the specific control and byte 2 the value for that control.
Buttons send their max value when on (depressed) and min value when off. i.e., the value of byte 2. As you can see from the midi sequences listed above, this creates a bit of a complication in my case because the value ought to stay the same but the control (byte 1) must change.
I decided to set the button values to the midi stop I wanted to control as the min value and the max value as the stop +1. So my button out going sequences are now:
Bn 74 34    stop off
Bn 74 35    stop on   this should be changed to Bn 73 34
(Notice that 74 = 4A hex and 34 = 22 hex)
Using a transformer object right after the button, I detect the Bn 74 35 sequenc and change it to the desired Bn 73 34. As it turns out... easy as pie when you get a little help from a friend ;-)
This is the button with output to the transformer:
The inspector details for the button:
The transformer setup:
The entire pipe organ module with stops, just need to clean up the names a bit and we're done. Notice that I used a fader text object for the stop headers.
I am a 2-3 week user of Logic Pro and must admit that I am starting to be thoroughly impressed with its capabilities. The Environment editor is ahhwwsome though perhaps a bit daunting at first.   Thanks again Pancenter for your totally cool help !

Mixing when using external midi devices . . .

Hi,
This is the first time I'm mixing a project using an external midi device. Formerly, using an older version of DP, I would record each track from the midi device into an audio track before mixing because those tracks don't "bounce" when mixing. Anybody here who uses external devices do it differently?
Thanks, josf

Using the external I/O plug in you can bounce your external midi instruments to audio tracks in realtime in logic, but you have to add the New multi instrument in the environment so that it can be represented in the external destination parameter of the EXternal I/O plug in.
At least I think this is how things work. You also need an audio interface with the outs of your hardware to the ins of the inputs and the midi cables configured.
But.. I think there is a latency issue there.. anyone know how to compensate for this? Like if I bounce a track in realtime in logic.. it records the time that it takes the audio to "get into" the software.. It never bounces a track right on the beat, as if I were to bounce a track from say the EXS sampler.. When I do it inside logic it bounces it right on the beat.. with no "dead space" beforehand.. but if I use external equipment there is always a lag.. any suggestions?

External Midi Plugin and Midi Output Delay

This one is fairly esoteric but has anyone run into the following problem or have a workaround?
I'm trying to incorporate the External midi plugin into my setup so I can use the new midi plugins, but I cannot correctly calibrate my system when using it. My calibration technique invoolves setting delay for each synth to the slowest of the bunch and then compensating for all in the Sync > All Midi Out > Delay preference. However, when you use the external midi plugin this control has no effect. Running the synths as standard midi does work but then you lose the option of using the new midi plugins.
If verified, does anyone know if this issue will be resolved in an update?
Thanks,
David

Pancenter,
Thanks for replying. I haven't had internet in a couple days and I'm back on now. Time Warner Cable is sometimes unstable around my area.
Logic:
I've been trying different things for the last couple days and nothing works.
I replayed and recorded a 4 bar piano part and made sure that the hits were as close to the grid as possible. It sounded fine on MIDI Recording. But on MIDI Playback Here's what I found: The Midi data is not misplaced, it's right where it should be. But the actual sound is delayed on playback.
I have a PreSonus Monitoring Station. The outputs of the Motif go straight into the Traveler (In 5-6). The Main outputs on the Traveler go into the PreSonus Monitoring Station as well as my KRK Monitors. I control the volume from the Monitor Station.
Software Monitoring and Independent Monitoring Level are both enabled.
I don't get it...Please help.

Can't get the patch/bank window for an external midi device to stay open

I am going to be very explicit with the description of my problem.
I am running Snow Leopard (10.6.1) and using Logic 9.0.1 on a MacBook Pro (2.16GHz, Intel Core 2 Duo, 4 GB memory).
I create a new empty project and add an external midi track.
I click on the track and select my Roland XV-5050, Channel 1 in the Library window.
I open the Environment window.
I choose MIDI Instr. from the pull down menu.
I select the XV-5050 icon.
I choose Define Custom Bank Messages under the Options menu.
I define all the Bank changes for my XV-5050 and close the Define Custom Bank Messages window.
I right-click on the XV-5050 icon in the Environment window and select Open Object Editor.
The patch/bank window opens and then immediately closes.
I can't get the patch window to stay open.
The same thing occurs when I double click on the midi track in the arrangment window.
Could someone let me know if they are able to get the patch/bank window to stay open or is it a bug?
Thanks
Scott

Scott,
Although this doesn't have much to do with your question, could you enlighten me as to how you connectd your XV-5050 to your mac with Snow Leopard? I can't get my Mac to "see" the XV at all.

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