External operation without material supply

Hi, i want to send only the parent material (header material) for some operation at subcontractor for operation 20. pls advise how to maintain the bom and send to vender and further steps? thank u in advance.

Hi,
Pl. find below steps for external processing. I got this from one of my friend.
1. For a production material (1001), one raw material (2001) is assigned.
2. Production process of 1001 is having four operations 10, 20, 30 and 40.
3. In this 10, 30, and 40 are internal operations and 20 is external operation (sub-contracting).
4. To address this, we created a dummy material (non-valuated) and named as 1001-20 (Finished product number + Operation to be performed).
5. This 1001-20 should form part of the component in BOM of 1001. That is BOM of 1001 will have components as raw material 2001 and this dummy material 1001-20. In routing, assign this dummy material 1001-20 to operation 20.
6. During BOM creation, you should remove costing relevancy for the item 1001-20.
7. In routing, operation 20 is created with a work center (which is external operation work center) with exteranl operation control key.
8. In operation details, for external processing, assign the info record of external processing.
9. Info record of external processing has to be created for vendor with relevance to the operation to be performed externally with vendor. (We are using material group field in the external processing in routing operation).
10. When create production order with above set up, system will create Purcha Req for external operation. This has to be converted to purchase order.
11. Now, this dummy material should be kept as 5000 or 6000 in stock using 561. When Purchase order is raised, required quantity has to be moved to vendor using 541. When we do goods receipt the stock with vendor shall come down. With this, we can monitor the material (with dummy material number) stock with vendor (please note we can see only quantity and not value) .
12. When we do GR for external purch order, we receive only the operation performed. (So, coversion cost to vendor shall be paid).
13. After ensuring GR is done, order confirmatin of operation 0020 has to be done. (here we capture the quanttiy and also the valuation of material in production order).
Madhava

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if vendor is doing first operation, Create a semi finished material with special procurement 30 subcontracting key in material master MRP2 view and maintain BOM of components which are sending to vendor and routing with external procurement.
Open another semi finished material for in house production and make BOM of component received from vendor i.e. subcontracting semi finished.
Result of above given procedure, there will be two documents without interlink (purchase order and production order). then you can open production order as per material available quantity and close whenever you desire and similarly for purchase order.
if vendor is last operation, procedure will be vise versa of above procedure.
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Hi Freinds,
I am creating an external operation in a routing and I enter the purchasing info record which is created for the material.
But when I try to enter this info record in the external operation then I get the Error: "Enter info record without Material"
Already info record is created for this material then what could be the problem. This is stopping the routing creation .Please help.
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shailesh nadkarni wrote:
> Hi Prasobh,
>
> Thnks for the quick response but can you throw somelight between the difference in Inforecord with Material and Inforecord without Material. Thnks....
Shailesh,
If the material is procured by means of subcontracting process, then we need to assign in the material master MRP2 view with special procurement key 30, create the BOM for the material, which would contain the components which would be Issued to the vendor. In this case you would be performing all the transaction with referance to the Output material number, so an Inforecord of SubContract category needs to be created with referance to the Output material, where you Issue the components and you can recieve your material.
In case of operation subcontract the PR or Purchase order would be with account assignment to the production order and not with referance to any material, so there wont be any referance to any material number (Product), you can Issue components for processing, but when recieving it is again not with referance to any material but operation delivery.
Hope i was able to explain, what you wanted.
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Hi
In routing if I maintain controlkey with external operation, I have to enter the info record details.
(I have to create info record without ref to material, the pur req/Pur ord created will be account assigned).
When ever I create an order the system will generate pur req for external opeation with ref to info record and it wil be always send to the vendor which i have maintained in info record.
My requirement is, I have 5 vendors who can do the same processing with different cost and lead time. I need to select the vendors.
Please let me know how to achieve this.
I cant go for Quota arrangement,since material number is not involved.
I dont want to create different routing with different info record details.
Regards
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In Your Scenario what i feel is you can create one routing in which u can mainatin vendor info record which is commonly used.Create a production order,but before releasing it,u can change purchase info record by making the customised setting as below.
Go to OPL8,for particular order type and plant combination,maintain order type dependent parameters in which in planning tab -purchase requistion -try to put 2 or 1 and test (1-never it will not create,2 -purchase requistions will be created after release,3-Immidiately when order is created)
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Edited by: Girish Adaviswamy on Mar 20, 2009 7:18 AM

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And if YES, how to do it???
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After some modifications on the Prod.Order Type and the creation of a Reference Operation Set, it seems to work.
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