External sample editor

how do I open an audio file from logic in an external sample editor? I know you can do it, but can't find in the manual how you do this or how to set what the default sample editor is when you open the file in the external editor
Thanks

There is a key command Search:
"external"
in the KC window. Assign it. 1st time you use it you will gett a prompt to select the app.
Cheers,, J

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When I try to open a region of audio in the external sample editor (For which I've set up Adobe Audtion CS6 to do destructive edits), I can manage to get the file to open correctly in Audition. HOWEVER, when I make my edits in audition and try to SAVE the file in Audition to send it back to Logic Pro X, I get an error message that the file cannot be saved because it is "in use by another application". It's almost as if Logic doesn't release the file to the external sample editor in order for it to be overwritten, and updated.
When I switch back to Logic, after I get the error message, Logic "refreshes" the waveform information, but it's still unchanged, because the external sample editor can't save the changes that I've made to the region. Can anyone relate? Offer me useful tips on how to fix this? Is it a bad configuration on my end, or just a bug in Logic?
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Ok so I think I might have figured this out on my own... Apparently, if you highlight a region, and the region is open in Logic's Editor window, while you're trying to edit the region with an external editor like Audition, it will throw the "file is in use by another application" error, when you try to save the changes you've made in the external editor. I found that if I close the "Editor" window in Logic, before trying to open the region in Audition, Audition is then able to save the changes to the file.
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"To transfer audio edited in the external sample editor back to Logic Pro
Save the file in the external sample editor, then switch back to Logic Pro.
The edited audio will be updated in the Audio Bin and Arrange area, if regions based on the audio file are in use. "
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How do I unset External Sample Editor (and switch back to logics default sample editor)...?????

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Trying to get 'External Sample Editor' working.

Hello,
I cannot find anything in the manual about changing preferences as to what editor you are using. I found the key command and tried to get DP as my external but once I saw that wasn't going to work I couldn't find any possible way to change my choice of editor. There seems to be no preference or menu that would let you pick a new one. Is my only choice to complete trash prefs and rebuild everything? Not a huge ordeal but tedious none the less.
Chris

It's a lot easier than that.
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fermusic wrote:
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While everything you say is absolutely correct, in terms of being able to do this within Logic itself, there are times when using Soundtrack Pro does make more sense for destructive printing of AU FX's.
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This is probably a super noob question, but I have a clip of a 7 bar guitar line that I want to open in the sample editor so I can reverse it. I know the default is to double-click it, but it has the arrow on the left side and when I double click it, it pulls down the only take that I did of that section (instead of opening in sample editor). I want to know how to do this for other clips with more than one take as well.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I've actually had to re-install the bug ridden 8.0.0 version to get it to work. Never thought i'd be saying that
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I would like to be able to apply edits destructively in the sample edit window with Audio Units like we could in Logic on MacOS9 (which used AudioSuite plugins). This is an ongoing request, year after year, among veteran Logic users. In every update it is ignored. The feature requires no redesign of the sample edit window, just another menu sub item droplist. While the bounce in place feature is a welcome addition, it is not a replacement for this feature that was removed in the migration to MacOSX and has been sorely missed ever since.
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Sound disappeared from Sample Editor?

Can anyone help? The sound has completely disappeared from my Sample Editor window and also the Audio bin.
I can't audition any loops in the list now, but if I drag them to a track in the main Arrange page they play fine. Then double clicking on that Audio loop or any audio clip in Arrange to bring it up in the Sample Editor window shows the waveform okay, but playing it just goes through the motions with the cursor moving as normal but no sound. Dead. Nada.
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Cheers
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Well thanks again Chorleyman,
I have had a play around and added another Audio strip in the Environment, set it to Output No.256 (The highest) and the Sound in the Sample Editor came straight back on. It's still called Audio and not PreListen, I can't seem to rename that, but it works now so I have my solution.
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Cheers,
Musolen.

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