External sata drive speed ...

HI,
I have an iMac G5 1.6GHZ. Am I right to say that I cannot benefit of the speed of an external SATA drive until I have a computer that has a SATA connection in the back ???
Thanks in advance.
Robert Lespérance

Thank you ... That's speed !!!
By the way, I want to buy one of these 2.5" external hard drive for my backups and move it around with me on the road. Do you know if the outside temperature could be a concern for the drive if I leave it in the car for a long period of time ??
I understand though that I would have to let it warm up before using it once back !!
Robert

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Your original post was a little unclear.
Cardbus won't work. That's basically PCMCIA - which is no longer on the machines.
For a MacBook Pro you need an Express Card 34 such as these;
http://eshop.macsales.com/search/expresscard+34esata
Then you can attach a drive to it. Take a look at the hard drives on the same site, they're quite good. They also sell enclosures you can insert a drive into so you could buy a hard drive from elsewhere, put it into an enclosure and then and then connect using esata - that will also work.
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No longer can write to my external SATA drive...

I was editing in FCP Studio 2 on a my MacPro 2x2.8 Quad Core, running MacOS 10.5.2, connected to a Highpoint X4 SATA drive, via the Highpoint RocketRaid 2314MS card. At some point the MAC detected a problem with the drive, and apparently it has changed the drive to read only. My timeline plays OK, but a lot of clips are marked as off-line, although I re-rendered them and they play. I ran the internet verification check from Highpoint, and it said the drive was normal. MAC disk utility will not let me change permissions on the external SATA. What should I do? Edit deadline approaching...there goes the weekend.

Well, the tech-support guy at Highpoint was going to e-mail me some steps, after he talked with someone about some MAC procedures. He thought that I would have to insert some code. There are three UNIX files on the drive that are trying to"fetch" something. Since my permissions have changed, I can't delete them. The e-mail from tech support never arrived last night. I'm in tthe CST zone, so it's still about two hours until Highpoint opens their doors. The RAID warning lights gave never changed from green to red. No beeps or chirps either. The on-line drive verification that took 3 hours, said the drive status was Normal.
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Just ordered a G-Tech external SATA with a PCI card:
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Hey - I'm wondering if someone can pass along some info. I've yet to upgrade to 10.5 I'm running a 2.66 4-core MacPro under 10.4.11.
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GlenToonz wrote:
Hey - I'm wondering if someone can pass along some info. I've yet to upgrade to 10.5 I'm running a 2.66 4-core MacPro under 10.4.11.
I am still running the Bootcamp Beta and my original sp2 install of WinXpPro.
And my SATA drives are dog-dead-slow! I've been looking around the net and most of the SATA/Drive/Bootcamp talk comes from early 2006.
My thought was Bootcamp only installed Windows - and since I have already installed windows (for 2 pieces of graphics software), I wonder if I upgrade to 10.5 and the new Bootcamp, will my drives run at full speed?
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Anyone using a LaCie external SATA drive?

LaCie has a "LaCie Two Big with PCI-E Card 2-Disk RAID System with SATA II" which might work for my purposes.
I'm using a late 2005 G5 Quad with PCI-Express slots. I wonder if anyone with a similar G5 has tried this drive and might say what their experience with it and the included PCI-Express card has been?
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No experience with that particular LaCie or PCI-e. However, I have some experience with LaCie external FW drives, Granite Digital SATA drive(s)/enclosures with a Highpoint PCI-X card and a MacGurus SATA II drive/enclosure with the Sonnet PCI-X card and of the bunch I MUCH prefer the MacGurus. Sold all my LaCie drives after having to send a 500GB drive back... and then it came back still broke. THe only FW drives I have left are "old" G-Tech drives. The Granite Digital is OK, but LOUD. I love everything about the MacGurus enclosure, especially port multiplication.
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I have now been on the phone 3x witht eh clowns at OWC, who btw, do not know their product because they gave me the wrong advice twice. I'm now on hold for a third time. I thought you guys might be faster.
I bought a OWC mercury elite dual drive enclosure. eSATA connectors. I moved an internal SATA drive into it to be external.
I bought a Seri-Tek1SE2 card. My pci-x slots are supposed to work with this PCI card. It is recognized in the apple profiler.
The problem, the disk doesn't mount on the computer. The machine is on. Seems to work, but can't find it in profiler or disk utilities.
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ZAP PRAM or better yet, boot into Open Firmware and
reset-nvram.
Done. Even reset the PMU
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From my computer I cannot get write speeds of more than 1MB a second to my external Lacie Drive. I can grab information off the External Drive fine, but cannot write to it faster than 1MB a second. This situation started after I crashed while writing to it.
1. Plugging into another computer, everything works fine and can write fast to the external.
2. Writing to the drive from a file on a network works fine. (pulling a file from my office network and writing to the External Drive through the computer with issues works)
3. Tried different cables. This issue is with USB, Firewire 400 and 800.
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I've e-mailed LaCie tech support and am waiting for a response. Since other hard-drives work with this machine I feel like there is some connection between this computer and this drive which won't let me manually write to it. I've transfered a huge file using the Terminal to the external drive and it went fine (at normal speeds). Very odd.

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Wow. I was thinking of posting a similar question myself. I have a G3 as a hardware router (for filtering) and I was wondering how to speed it up.
The research I've done so far has yielded these tidbits:
1) ATA 133 isn't much faster than ATA 66 for a single drive. Why? Most drives don't transfer data quickly enough to use the whole 66 Mb/sec bandwidth of ATA 66 anyways. The newest drives that have burst speeds above 66 Mbs could make a difference, but burst speeds are rarely achieved. I've been looking and I've found lots of ATA 100 drives, but no ATA 133 drives. You'd have to get a 10k Raptor or a RAID setup to see an appreciable difference from ATA 66 to ATA 133.
2) The upper speed limit of FW 400 is 50 Mb/sec. However, the data goes through the FW bridge, which then gets fed to the native IDE drive on the other side. This takes time. External FW drives of the same RPM and protocol (ATA 33, etc) are slightly slower than their internal brethren.
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I replaced my two internal drives with 1Tb Seagate ST31000340AS drives.
I also bought a Mercury Elite Pro external enclosure from Other World Computing (OWCMEFW924AL2K) and populated that with two more of the same drives.
I have RAID disabled and am using Super Duper! to backup/clone my two internal drives to the two external drives. The drives are all working fine, as are all the possible connections (USB2, FW400 and FW800).
After a backup/clone, the Disk Info in Disk Utility shows the external system drive clone to be bootable (which it should be, as my previous external drives were). However, any attempt to boot from the drive via the launch-option key method or by changing the startup disk in the preference panes fails. With the latter I get a brief blinking folder question mark, then it reverts to booting from the internal system drive. With the former, I am not even shown the external drive as a boot volume.
So, what could possible going on here? All the hardware and cables check out, and in all the time I've used Super Duper! it has always created bootable backup drives.
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I'm really at a loss to explain what might be going on.

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I'm planning to buy a pair of external FireWire hard drives to backup and archive my iBook G4. I've read a couple of product reports that compare read and write speed of hard drives which seems to be a function of each drive's rotational speed.
I then noticed that my iBook's internal hard drive is slower (at 4200 RPM) than either of the external drives I'm now considering (7200 RPM and 5400 RPM). A test report I read showed the 7200 RPM drive duplicating 1GB twice as fast as the 5400 RPM drive when connected via FireWire to a G5.
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Probably should have been clearer in my initial question. The 7200 RPM drive I'm looking at is a desktop model, and a bit cheaper than the 5400 RPM drive, which is portable. I like the smaller footprint of the portable drive (and the convenience of it being bus powered) but don't want to pay more for those benefits only to be disappointed with its performance.
So, I'm actually trying to decide between a higher speed/lower cost/desktop vs. lower speed/higher cost/portable. If I could determine that the actual performance difference between these was not very significant when used solely to backup and archive my iBook, I'd gladly pay a bit more for the convenience and small size of the portable.
If there indeed is a big performance difference, I'd find space on my desk for the desktop drive and pocket the savings.

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Seems like I'm on my own with this one then.

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I am using a 3ghz MacPro Quad-Core and a PCI card attached to an external box holding 4 drives. The drives mount, but hang after 2 minutes. What gives? I am also using a Sonnet PCI card with an updated driver.

Waynebru wrote:
I am using a 3ghz MacPro Quad-Core and a PCI card attached to an external box holding 4 drives. The drives mount, but hang after 2 minutes. What gives? I am also using a Sonnet PCI card with an updated driver.
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Music has a download icon next to it, but that is not there for movies and tv shows. I have my itunes folder on my drobo, and want to keep it that way...
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Your shows should be in your purchased items on iTunes. Log in to your account and you should be able to find them. Not all movies are available for a second download though, you should check on that.
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