External SATA Port Multiplier

Hi to all, I have an HP PAVILLON DV3550EL and I would like to buy an External SATA Port Multiplier in order to connect more than one hard disk to the eSATA port, but I don't know if the laptop is esata port multiplier compatible.
Can anybody tell me if it is compatible or not? Is there also some other information that I should know in order to purchase the right product?
Thanks in advance for your availability!

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Paul,
You have one of the models.
Most Intel PCs that I have come across don't support SATA port multipliers except for MACs.
Paul, send me a PM.
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Hello!
I'm trying to figure out if any of the six sata ports on my P67A-GD55 are compatible with SATA port multipliers. I can't find any information on this anywhere.
The ports are two SATA 3 and 4 SATA 2.

No sir.
Not for us here on these MSI motherboards, and for the most part, not for anyone.
Intel wants ICH* chipset implementations to be point to point, for whatever reason.
They do not support PM, even though they are technically capable of it! Nice guys.
There are two different implementations of PM, one being the "real" Port Multiplier, so to speak.
You might want to do some research, ie. the difference between CBS (Command-Based Switching)
and FIS (Frame Information Structure) aka FBS. Just Google all those terms together like
"sata port multiplier cbs fis fbs switching" etc. and you'll find more information than you ever wanted to know.
Just kidding.
This will get you going: ATA Wiki @ kernel.org: SATA Hardware Features
While what you choose might depend on your specific PM Host controller in the box you want to hook up,
as a general guide I'd look at the cards that support FBS and have the most "yes" columns; at least AN, and things like NS/NQM are gravy.
You'll notice the one I mention that's on the P67A-GD65, the Marvell 91xx, it supports FBS & AN, and as I said above,
it works great with 4 drives on either port (SilImage SteelVine PM Host). I'm also partial to the Silicon Image SI3132 & 3124 cards,
they rock, and you can find cards based on them for under $20usd anywhere.
If you only have one PM Host you want to connect I'd say it's a no-brainer to go with the same manufacturer for the SATA card's chip.
Nothing says speedy and stable like a matched pair, right?
But to reiterate, no, you will not be connecting a port multiplier host to any of those motherboard ports.
With the Intel RST driver it will detect an "unknown" drive of a whopping 0 bytes capacity.
HTH!

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Hello,
I was wondering if it's possible to connect 4 hard drives through a SATA port multiplier plugged to the SATA port instead of the superdrive...
Does anyone knows if the mac mini supports this technology? (I looked for the mac mini developer note, but the most recent I found was of the G4 mac mini...)
Thank you in advance
Matteo

I am using a SATA to eSATA lead removed from a PCI Card backplate and a modified gender reversing connector Male-Male.
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You may have to copy/paste the URL, I haven't figured how to do it properly yet.
This arrangement works with my G5 from the 'B' drive connector. I see no reason why it shouldn't work with the Mac mini optical drive connection.
I have tried a second time without success. It's not a huge issue, I would just like to crack it.
I am getting the idea a Mac Pro would be better suited for my needs and way of working. The Mac mini is an amazing little tool, but expansion is not it's strong point.
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P45D3 Platinum - does the esata (external) have port multiplier ability?

Hi,
have the MSI P45D3 and just bought the Icydock mb561us-4s (http://www.icydock.com.tw/English/mb561us-4s_frame.html)
which requires the esata to have port multiplier function.
Does the esata have it.....if yes....please help with instructions to enable it.
Tx

Hi,
the onboard eSATA port is hosted by a JMicron JMB362 Chipset, which (according to the JMicron product specifications) supports the following:
http://www.jmicron.com/Product_JMB362.htm
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I have a MSI K8N Neo Platinum, which uses a NForce3 250Gb chipset. I have read that port multipliers can use either SATA or SATA II hosts and drives, but I don't know if the technology is 100%, transparently compatible.
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Quote from: syar2003 on 22-February-06, 05:10:37
Hi!
The K8N Neo Platinum (MS-7030) doesn't use -5v to anything.
So the -5v from the old atx spesification is not needed in your case.
WoW, thanks for fast reply!
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Anyways, in case you have a Laptop: Most Cardbus, ExpressCard eSATA cards are supported as long as they aren't anything fancy. In most cases they use a Silicon Image controller which has been supported by the kernel for a long time.
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External SATA recommendations

All,
Can anyone recommend an external SATA solution for my Powermac G5? I have a card with external ports, but I need advice on the following:
1. Decent enclosure that will allow spindown of disks
2. Cables
3. Disks
The other option would be for a NAS solution, but I don't believe that would be suitable for photography or video editing, but I guess it would be ok for archival storage ?
I'm preferably looking for gear available in the UK and known to work with the G5... Ever since finding out that a WD400GB disk was going to cost me an additional SATA controller, I've been a lot more cautious about this kind of thing

Wayne,
Your shopping in the same area i have been exploring recently. I'm looking for much more storage, possible with RAID AND backup options. I use Aperture extensively - as extensively as the hopeless and unapgradeable 6600 nVida video card allows. I also have a large itunes collection and do video creation on FC. I need more spindles!
I've settled on the Sonnet E4p PCIe card for my quad offering 4 external SATA ports, and it also support Port Multiplication (PM). PM is a means of clustering bunches of drives physically and connect them to one eSATA port. This particular card £200, supports up to x5 SATA drives per port, thus 20 external drives. However PM is slightly slower than direct connect to each drive. My view is that PM, possibly with RAID within it will be fast enough AND give me a backup option.
After the I/O card there is the choice of enclosure. I have done a lot of reading on what is out there and again i'm falling back to one of two Sonnet products, the 400A and 500P. The former offers x4 SATA drives and supports direct connect to each drive which would make a screaming I/O sub-system. However i also want lots of on-line data capability so speed is not the only priority. This moves me to the 500P enclosure, a x5 SATA PM-only setup. It allows sleep, drive temp monitoring and S.M.A.R.T. What i like about this is i can run a 2-3 drives of 4-500GB SATAII in a fast RAID leaving 3-2 drives for rolling (daily) and (weekly) backup processes as well as one left for x. All within one enclosure. And i still have three eSATA ports to expand on !
AMUG has some good detailed reviews of this and similar equipment:
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I've not settled on software to run my backups yet, but the above represents my theoritical approach for on-line storage expansion of my Quad. What i am hesitant about is whether i will stick with my mac setup. No matter how much screaming about the lack of video upgrades from Apple, i've been totally hacked-off at the attitude of Apple towards me and others on this Aperture-critical issue. Its a long and very sad story that Apple should be ashamed of. Its 2 days short of 1 year since Apple launched the G5 quad and still they have done NOTHING grrrrrr...
PS One other useful benefit you get from the seperate SATA controller is you can choose and gain from SATA II drives. I'm looking at the WD RE2 drives, 400 or 500GB.
PPS I've been 'stalking' macheaven in the UK, they had the 500P on a ~12% discount, but missed it. Scan seems to have the best prices on drives.
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I know some PC motherboards include extra SATA connectors on them that aren't always pre-connected for you. Does the Mac Pro have any extra SATA connectors on its motherboard?
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3. Call Addonics at 408-433-3898 and ask them to sell you a ADSA3GPX1-2E
flashed with the BASE BIOS b7.3.13 for $39.99 for the Mac Pro. Tell them AMUG sent you. Then use the SiI-3132 Mac driver version 1.1.6 found here:
http://www.siliconimage.com/support/supportsearchresults.aspx?pid=32&cid=3&ctid= 2&osid=3&
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Quote from: Bas on 12-January-11, 05:42:36
Typical.
That is why I say, test it first.
Desktop boards often fail to boot from add-in RAID/SATA/SAS/SCSI cards.
And trust me, it more a rule that it fails.
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