External WD Voyager Q

I have an Feb 2011 15 in MBP, OSX 10.6.8.
The first disk I used for TimeMachine (before learning about CCC) is a WD EliteBook, 1 TB, USB 2.0.
Reformatted as GUID, 500 GB TimeMachine and 500 GB NTFS (trying to use it as Windows data backup -- hey ... I was proud as he-double-sticks I figured out completely *on my own* how to convert the drive!).
Then became concerned about the enclosures to my WD Elite and LaCie 1.0 TB going bd and taking the drives with it.
So ... extracted the Caviar Green from the WD case, put it in my *second* NewerTech Voyager Q using FW 800 ... and the only option I have is "initialize drive" in a popup. Usng the interface from the elitebook case it loads perfectly under USB 2.0.
Even tried the jumper on pins 5/6.
This is the second Voyager because the first one behaved as badly, and OWC very kindly sent me another.
When I formatted a USB thumb as exFAT on my MBP, it was not recognized on my Windows. When I formatted as exFAT on windows, it work on both.
Could the WD interface card have formatted it *just twingy enough*? Which calls into questions the "toaster's" ability to re-use any SATA disk.

My WD external disk has a controller card that is doing something strange. The disk mounts perfectly using the interface from WD, but not under the Voyager Q. Yet a spare 500 GB WD blue (lord help me ... a 500 GB WD blue in a PC tower that was disconnected and unpowered ... I have too much computer hardware!) with XP mounts perfectly.
Seems some external enclosures play games with the disks to make them "proprietary".
Live and learn.

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Satellite Pro L20 (PSL25E) - Need WLAN driver

Hello, new at this!
Satellite Pro
L Series
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PSL25E
Windows XP
Ive never had a Lan Driver or the ability to connect to a WiFi Network. I currently use a BT voyager, however that has broken. Is there anywhere I can download either Lan Driver or Wireless Lan Driver that will allow connection to my WiFi Network without the use of the external BT voyager.
Im sorry if this doesnt make sense. Ive tried various links to no avail.
http://eu.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/download_drivers_bios.jsp?service=EU
http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/wlan/?page=downloads
Thanks for your time. Regards.

Yep, this looks like the correct driver! A message has just appeared though:
The software you are installing for this hardware:
Intel Pro/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
Has not passed Windows Logo testing to verify its compatibility with Windows XP.
Continuing your installation of this software may impair or destabilize the correct operation of your system either immediately or in the future. Microsoft strongly recommends that you stop this installation now and contact the hardware vendor for software that has passed Windows Logo testing.
Is this a normal message?
How reliable are the Toshiba downloads?
Im using this link:
http://aps2.toshiba-tro.de/wlan/?page=downloads

Can I do a complete recovery of hard drive recovery and everything t over without an external drive if I don't care to save anythingcm

having bad permission problems and just seems easier to start over can I do it without an external hard drive as long I'm not saving information

I have dozen OWC cases and drives and no issue so I know that they are good choice.
Don't know how much data and such and given the price of 1-2-3TB drives $160 for 1TB might be small but get the job done, while 3TB for $230 is a good drive + case investment to handle your needs and nice combo TimeMachien and other purposes - for external solution which you do want, so it can be safe and off line etc
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/1394/USB/EliteAL/eSATA_FW800_FW400_USB
I keep a Voyager Dock around to access various bare drives externally as need, they do get warm under heavier use but work well
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/NewerTech/Voyager/Hard_Drive_Dock
Good value in a bare drive
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Seagate/ST3000DM001R/
Popular WD Black 2TB for all uses
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Western%20Digital/WD2002FAEXR/
For my own systems. SSD for system with spare 10K 250GB WD drives ($100 for either), WD Black 1TB for data and 1-1.5TB Green for backups.
WD Black 1TB $93
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Internal-Desktop/dp/B0036Q7MV0/
WD Green 3TB $149 - backup
http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Caviar-Green-Desktop/dp/B004RORMF6/
WD VR 10K 250GB $103 200MB/sec boot drive :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007V5A1BK/
Those last and last and make a nice boot drive.
SSD: Samsung 840 128GB
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Series-120GB-internal-MZ-7TD120BW/dp/B009NHAF06/

External hard drives - what brand do you use

I'm looking to buy an external hard drive, maybe I'm a bit paranoid, but I'm thinking about getting a RAID1 setup. I have a lot of valuable pictures in I-Photo, a lot of music in I-Tunes, and would not be a happy camper if my internal HD fails.
Would you give me some ideas as to the external HD brand/model you use - anybody use a RAID setup for redundancy ?
Thanks,
Bob

Hi Bob, I wouldn't go RAID at all, though Raid1 is pretty good you still have problems with RAID, the whole reason they came up with RAID5, RAID10, etc...
I think two independant drives are better than 2 tied together, and there are many options for backups.
Almost more important than the External Drive itself is the Chipset in the External, Oxford being good & Prolific & others not so.
My Books have had far less than glowing reviews for Macs...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2191614&tstart=0
http://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=3219&p=42023&hilit=western+digital#p420 23
http://x704.net/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2939&p=34120&hilit=western+digital#p3412 0
If you try LaCie then have a few spare Power Supplies on hand.
I'd stay away from Bus Powered drives & 2.5" drives also, here's some choices, I'd go Firewire & drives with a 5 year warranty over 3 year warranty...
http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/
Lately I use the Voyager...
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=10618536&#10618536
Also see the last post there for the OP's review.

Problems transfering iTunes Media folder from one external HDD to another.

Hey Yinz.
I'm running a MBP 13" 2.7Ghz Intel Core i7...OS X 10.6.8. Recently the NAS that hosted my iTunes Media folder and library failed. I recovered the drive from the NAS...a WD Caviar (WD2500JS), which was originally written in XFS. After substantial effort, I found a process that would enable me to access this drive, and have my Mac read it. This involved a Newer Technologies Voyager Q, coupled with a recent version of (whatever they're calling) MacFuse. It did so sucessfully. Now what i want is to take my iTunes Media folder and library off of the WD, ex-NAS HDD (its original location), and transfer it to a new HDD.
I bought a Toshiba Canvio basics usb 3.0/2.0.
Most online tutorials describe dragging and dropping the folder in the new location. I can connect both HDDs to my MBP, and the transfer will begin...
But.
After the first few minutes...The Finder will not allow me to complete the transfer. I keep getting an error code -8084.
I'm almost certain that the new HDD (which i formatted as Mac OS X Journaled in Disk Utility) is not recognizing special characters in certain file names in my iTunes Library. I have some artists in my folder that require special characters to display their names properly. I realize these were originally written in a Linux format.
So, is there a way around this...other than changing the filenames? I really don't want to destroy the integrity of my library by changing a bunch of characters that accurately identify artists. I guess if all i had was Billy Joel and the Beatles in my library, i'd be Okay...but i don't.
I also read a thread somewhere that suggested that error code -8084 relates to inadequate power distribution of an attached HDD. This also complicates my problem...as the new external HDD (Toshiba) is bus powered, and lacks an option for a dedicated AC power supply.
While i am able to access and use my iTunes as normal...i'm tied to that WD HDD, which is like, over 5yrs old, and i'm really hoping to get my media off that old HDD, and onto a new HDD with the files intact and accurate.
Any help would be much appreciated and welcome.
--j.m.
P.S. I'm running iTunes 10.7

No solid data here but it just seems to me that when I see issues arise about copying data and strange error messages that it has to do when people are using non Mac-formatted drives. I think they kind of work but once you put them under real pressure you just get problems. Maybe I'm just thinking of all those vague error -50 "communications difficulties" messages from people trying to copy their libraries to FAT drives. I wonder if using Terminal to do the copying would help.
Now, there is a difference between placing your media on a drive and your library on a drive. Your library is your whole iTunes folder along with files such as the critical library.itl file and artwork files, etc. Media are just what's in your media folder - music, movies, etc. If you are moving your whole library you can drag and drop copy. If you are moving your media you can drag and drop but then the new drive has to have the identical drive name as the old one (the old and new pathnames have to remain unchanged). Usually the best way to move media is to use iTunes' preferences setting to consolidate your media to the new location. iTunes very easily loses track of files unless you let it do the moving (exception: moving the whole iTunes library folder).
iTunes 10 for Mac: Consolidate your iTunes library - http://support.apple.com/kb/PH990
iTunes for Mac: Moving your iTunes Media folder - http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1449
vs.
iTunes: How to move [or copy] your music [library] to a new computer [or another drive] - http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4527 - a somewhat bewildering and not always easily understandable set of options.
Quick answer if you use iTunes' default preferences settings: Copy the entire iTunes folder (and in doing so all its subfolders and files) intact to the other drive. Open iTunes and immediately hold down the Option (alt) key (shift on Windows), then guide it to the new location of the library.itl file in the moved iTunes folder.
Windows users see tip at: https://discussions.apple.com/message/18879381

Problems mounting Hitachi 7k3000 HDD in Voyager Q dock via eSATA

I have two NewerTech Voyager Q- Quad Interface SATA 2.5" & 3.5" Drive Docks http://eshop.macsales.com/item/NewerTech/FWU3ES2HDK/ from OWC.com that are advertised as compatible with 3TB SATA III Hitachi drives. I am using one as a main data drive, and the other as a Carbon Copy Cloner back-up. Today I had both of them running off my Sonnet Tempo SATA Pro Expresscard 34 on my MacBook Pro, doing a CCC back up sync. I went out and when I came back the cloning had frozen. I couldn't quit anything or eject anything, and several other apps became unresponsive so I had to do a hard shutdown. Upon reboot, Disk Utility wouldn't mount either of the drives, and they both failed verify/repair and also a rebuild in Disk Genius. So I tried plugging them in via FW800, only one of the drives mounted (the closest on the daisy-chain) and Disk Utility said it appeared to be OK. The 2nd drive wouldn't mount. I am quite concerned about this as I have a lot of data on there that I cannot afford to lose. Has anyone had any experience using the Hitachi 3TB drives in external eSATA or FW800 docks or enclosures? Any opinions on the Voyager Q docks?

Welcome to the Apple discussions.
You've done some good, thorough troubleshooting.
First blush I'm thinking the hard drive isn't working, until you start it via firewire from another volume, and you see flakey results, and can't complete a boot from DVD. That would support a failing logic board.
The Apple store can send your Powerbook to the Apple Depot for repair. We recently did this, system was sent to the Apple Depot in Houston, and cost was around $325. At the Depot, they repair everything, returning it in operating order. In our case they replaced the logic board and battery. If the case is banged up or extensive replacements are required, the charge goes up from $325. Comes back with a 90 day warranty.
If you're good with computer internals, you can buy a used logic board and replace it yourself. Good instructions at http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Repair/PowerBook-G4-Aluminum-12-Inch-1-1-5-GHz-Logic -Board/553/1

Is it possible to buy an external casing into which a backplane ready hard

Is it possible to buy an external casing into which a backplane ready hard drive will slot?
After I set up a RAID 0 array, I will have a spare 640GB hard drive ( the original Apple one), and I was wondering whether it is possible to purchase an empty external casing which would house it.
Just a thought!
Or am I living in dreamland?

Many thanks for the advice.
Unfortunately, the range of ancillary products available to Mac users in the UK is very limited compared to the States.
I was unable to track down any UK resellers of FirmTek enclosures, and I am reluctant to import from abroad, because it would be too much hassle to return products in the event of a fault.
After a lot of googling I thought I had found the ideal solution when I came across a Macally Voyager Q Dock review in a back issue of MacWorld UK. However, although some Macally products are sold by UK resellers, I could only find the Voyager Q available from OWC.
I came across lots of external hard drive cases, enclosures and docks, but invariably they were USB2.0 and/or eSATA, with a few also having FW400 ports.
Eventually I tracked down one case and one dock, stocked by Storage Depot Co. UK, which had FW400, FW800, eSATA, and USB2.0 connectivity. I decided that the single bay case was the best option for me, and I have placed an order for one.
If any UK Mac users are looking for either a single bay case, or dock, for SATA drives, with FW800 connectivity, these are the respective links for the case and the dock:
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/Hard-Drive-Cases/sc884/p1332.aspx
http://www.storagedepot.co.uk/External-Hard-Drives/Hard-Drive-Cradles/sc883/p877 .aspx

External Firewire Hard Drive Problem

I have an external Maxtor FW 400 drive with two partitions that I've been using for backups. I've been using it with my iMac. Last night I kept having to force-quit different apps and finally decided to restart. My computer wouldn't shut down all the way and I had to finally use the power button. When I tried to start back up, I couldn't get past the grey screen. I kept having to use the power button to shut down. I disconnected everything but keyboard and mouse and did the reset SMC. I've zapped the PRAM. I couldn't get the disk to mount at all on my iMac. I used the disk utility on the iMac and 4-5 things came up when it did the verify/repair disk. I also did the hardware test and no problems were found.
I decided to try it with my MBP and finally one partition mounted, but the other didn't. I tried the disk utillity and get errors when I try to verify and repair. I was able to copy some of the files from the partition that mounted onto another drive, but some of the folders are giving me an error.
I've read some about DiskWarrior. Is that something that might help to repair the disk so I can at least get the files off? I have a copy of Tech Tool Deluxe that I got with AppleCare for an iMac G5, but don't know if that would help or not. Haven't been able to get it to work though. When I try to start up from the CD, I'm pressing C as I start up but it's not doing the CD. I know the version on the CD isn't for Leopard, so that might be why it's not starting up from CD? Does anyone have any suggestions about what might help?
Also, I guess I may have to purchase another external hard drive. This was a Maxtor about 5 years old. I've had a WD My Book USB also go bad on me, so I've stayed away from those. I have a SimpleTech USB that seems okay so far. I use a Time Capsule for my Time Machine backup. But, I'm creating a lot of video and photo projects so I have some really large projects and fill up a drive fast. They're too big to fit on a DVD. You need backups of your backups. How do y'all manage you big projects?
Lots of questions. Would love some answers. Thanks!

So is that iMac G5 working fine with off its internal drive? Only the external is causing this problem?
The copy Tech Tool Deluxe will boot your iMac G5, but it probably will not boot the MacBook Pro (because it is Intel and that old disc is probably for PowerPC). So if you want to use it, you will have to use the iMac G5 to boot it. It does have a volume repair function.
Disk Warrior, and the complete Tech Tool Pro, as well as Drive Genius (from Prosoft), are all utilities that can do repairs beyond the capabilities of Disk Utility.
For external drives, I tend to buy an external enclosure that I like and then look for a good deal on a hard drive to put inside it. I usually buy the enclosure from a company that is focused on Mac users, such as OWC (macsales.com) and Macally. They (and others) sell empty cases. At this point, I would buy a case that has both USB 2.0 and FireWire connections. As for the hard drive itself, I like using dealmac.com for links to great deals.
I recently had a need for a large amount of extra storage to use with Time Machine. The cheapest way I could find to add the space I needed was to get 750 GB Western Digital Green SATA drive ($70 deal found through DealMac) and connect it to USB 2.0 using one of these adapters.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/U2NV2SPATA/
I know I'm wasting the speed capability of a new SATA drive, but USB 2.0 is fast enough for using with Time Machine. It just sits as a bare drive next to my iMac and my FireWire external drive. Because the "green" drive is probably operating at a slower speed, it makes almost no sound and barely gets warm.
At MacWorld this year, OWC's booth was showing off this device called +Voyager Q+.
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/FWU2ES2HDK/
With it, you plug in regular bare SATA hard drive mechanisms like those old Iomega cartridge drives. If you are regularly running short of storage space, you might consider this type of solution as a way to have essentially unlimited storage without the need to have a clutter of external drives, each with its own cable, power cord, and power supply. Just have a safe place to store your archive of SATA hard drives and plug them in as needed.

Daisy chain external drives

Hi. Let's say I have an internal drive (drive A) in my MacBook Pro, an external drive (drive B) connected via FireWire 800 to my MacBook Pro, and another external drive (drive C) connected via FireWire 800 to the rear of drive B. All drives are formatted as HFS+. Drive B holds my iTunes library.
1. Can I use Time Machine to back up drive A onto drive C?
2. Can I use Time Machine to back up drive B onto drive C?
3. Is there a brand of external drive that works well with this daisy chain approach?
4. Is there a better way / drive configuration to back up drives A and B?
Pls note my MacBook Pro has only one FireWire 800 port. Also pls note that I am not interested in a NAS.
Thanks

All theoretically possible, but I've found even some of the most reliable Firewire drives despite being daisy chained, such as the Newertech from OWC. They may not stay connected indefinitely, and they definitely don't copy directly between each other. Copying from computer to each of them on separate connections is much faster than trying to copy between them. At times, it is almost as slow as USB 1 when I try to copy directly from one to the other simply with the Finder. Don't expect Time Machine to be much faster. My advice, get a disk copier along with the Newertech Voyager. Disk copiers such as
http://www.amazon.com/HDD-Duplicator-Stand-Alone-Sata/dp/B002OTG0PO'
work a lot faster than trying to deal with the intricacies of daisy chaining.
Firewire 800 is great for single hard drives. But forget about daisy chaining. I've tried all the best brands, and they've backfired.

Cubes are not visible in Voyager cube browser

Hi
After following the steps below:
1. Login to Central Mangagement Console.
2. Click on Voyager Connection to see the list of avaliable connection.
3. Click on New button(present below the manage menu) to create a connection.
4. Give name and chose the type of server you want to connect from the providers list.
5. Now Give the server name and click on connect button.
6. Give the username and password and click on ok
7. Select the cube you want connect from the cube browser and click on OK button.
I am uable to view all the cubes in cube browser. Do I have to make any setting/ maintain in BI to view the cubes in cube browser.
Any suggestion/solution?
Thanks
Debasish

So are you trying to connect to an infocube or a BEx Query.
If you are trying to connect to BEx query - the property 'Allow External acces to this query' on the extended tab for query properties should be set.
Cubes should be visible in the folder $Infocubes. If they are not it could be an issue with authorizations

In Yosemite: External Hard Drives Won't Spin Down

Since installing Yosemite, my external (and perhaps internal) drives won't spin down in energy saver mode: 'Put hard drives to sleep when possible.' I'm using Seagate Barracuda 2TB internal drives in external Voyager Q drive bays. They seem to be getting a little too warm, I can also feel them spinning.
Thanks!
Steve

Thanks for those diagnostics & remedies. Those are good to know. Performed all of them but the problem persisted. I tried swapping out different drives and discovered that it was one particular Seagate drive that wasn't spinning down. So that was the culprit. Going to check out the Seagate discussions here or on Seagate and see what can be done, probably nothing.
Thanks much!
Steve

Voyager 1055 USB Wireless adaptor problems

I have just had a new broadband installation, with a HH3. I am changing over from an old 8Mb broadband on a different line which has a Netgear router on it. I have 3 similar Compaq PCs, 3 Iphone/iPods, and a Mac, and connected my work laptop OK to the HH3.
The 3 PCs, 1 has a Netgear WG111v2 USP wireless adaptor which has connected OK to the HH3. The other 2 have BT Voyager 1055 USB adaptors, neither of which can see the HH3 but connect OK to the Netgear. The PC with the Netgear and one of the Voyagers are in the same room, about 4 feet apart, yet using inSSIDer2, I can see about a dozen wireless networks from all of mine and my neighbours connections, the PC 4 feet away can see only the Netgear and the Openzone from the HH3. I've switched off the Netgear, changed channels on both, reloaded drivers for the Voyager, and it makes no difference.
Is there an issue with the Voyager 1055 that stops it seeing some networks? I've tried everything I can think of, but my last ditch effort will be to switch the routers and put the Netgear on the new broadband. The old broadband will be ceased eventually.
Thanks
Solved!
Go to Solution.

The Voyager 1055 is a bit dated now and was originally intended for use with the BT Voyager wireless routers.
There have not been any driver updates since it was first issued.
I have one, and it does not like WPA2 encryption or mixed b/g/n wireless speeds.
If you set the hub3 to use b/g only and WPA only, it should work.
I have TP-link wireless access point and I had to use those settings to allow the 1055 to connect.
In the end I stopped using the 1055 and used a TP-link TL-WN722N USB adapter, which also does wireless N and has an external detachable aerial.
There are some useful help pages here, for BT Broadband customers only, on my personal website.
BT Broadband customers - help with broadband, WiFi, networking, e-mail and phones.

What role does cache size play in external HD ?

Hello,
I want to replace my existing 500 GB external HD with a larger one. I will want to have 2 partitions, one for Sample Libraries (additional to Logic from Logic ) and one for my daily Backup.
I'm wondering what role the cache plays in a HD and what I need to look out for.
Any general suggestions re make would also be appreciated !
Thanks,
Kay.

SeaDream wrote:
Hello,
I want to replace my existing 500 GB external HD with a larger one. I will want to have 2 partitions, one for Sample Libraries (additional to Logic from Logic ) and one for my daily Backup.
NOT a good idea.
Hard drives fail all the time. So if you have your backup and your samples on the same drive and the drive goes down, guess what you lose? EVERYTHING.
Your backup drive should be a wholly separate drive. And your samples should be on a dedicated drive of their own too (multiple drives if necessary).
What you want are three hard drives:
1) a backup drive (can be anything: USB, FW, eSATA)
2) a samples drive (FW, eSATA. Not USB)
3) a backup of your samples drive (same choices as #2 if you want to be able to swap out the drive in case your original goes bad. Otherwise, USB can be used for data backup but not recommended to run with Logic).
If you were able to install additional hard drives in your computer you could (and should) go with internal drives.
When your backup drive gets full, put it on the side and buy another one. A great choice for backup drives is the Voyager -- a peripheral that plugs into either USB, FW, or eSATA and accepts raw (inexpensive drives). When the drive fills up you eject it from the unit and plop in another one.
Finally, you never want to partition a drive that's part of your recording setup. It will kill performance and, as I said above, if the drive goes down you have too much to lose.

New Mac Pro: What are You using to connect your eSATA external drives to you nMacPro?

Hi,
I have some eSATA external HDs that I would like to use with my 2013 New Mac Pro.
I was just wondering what other have been using to connect their nMPs to eSATA devices and how well it has worked. I have seen a USB3 to eSATA cable from NewEgg.... which seems like a good idea ... if it will work.
Thanks!

LaCie TB HUB has two TB ports which is good for daisy chain. Has two esata ports also. I connect a Voyager bought from OWC to one sata port and that's where my bare 2.5 and 3.5 hard drives reside when I need them. The other sta port has a Pioneer 207 blu ray drive. When I sleep my 2013 Mac Pro I turn off the power to the Voyager and the Pioneer. All work flawlessly.

Issues with external drive on Mac Mini / Lion

I'm using an external SATA drive in a Newer Technologies Voyager dock (which I like to call the "toaster") with a brand new Mac Mini i5 2.3G via FW800.
The drive was formatted using Disk Utility on a G4 running Tiger (10.4.11)
With the drive mounted, the Mini's performance seems to slow down, and it randomly dismounts the drive, with the usual warning, "you disconnected your drive without dismounting it first, bla bla...)
I think I remember when Leopard was new, there was a firmware issue that had to be dealt with, and when moving drives from OS 9 to X and back to 9, I lost access to the data on the drive.
I'm also aware of the partitioning scheme difference when formatting drives for use on the Intel machines.
Could either of the above have anything to do with the problem I'm having here?

I'm not an expert in this, but as far as I know, GUID only comes into play if you want to boot from it, but...... you never know, it could - here is an excerpt from Disk Utility:
If you’ll be using the disk only with Mac computers, choose GUID Partition Table.
Another thought is: how old is that drive? All hard drives fail sooner or later - have you tried to check it with Disk Utility or something like Disk Warrior?

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