Extra GB in Blu-Ray project?

I have Encore CS5, and am trying to create a Blu-Ray disc. I used Sorenson Squeeze to produce a 22GB mpeg, but once I import it into Encore (non-transcoding), it says my project is oversized at 27GB. My menus, assets, and audio track add up to less than 1GB. So where are the extra GB coming from? Thanks in advance.

New response to your first post. I'd like to hear from anyone else who can a) provide more accurate numbers and/or b) give us an update on this problem in CS5.5 and generally.
Encore appears to estimate too high. I do not know if this was corrected/improved in CS5.5 (Encore 5.1). Also, I believe Encore is reporting GB based on 1,000 bytes rather than 1,024. (Or is it the opposite?)
My tests yesterday suggested that Encore is adding about 15% to the Windows Explorer reported "size on disk" using bytes rather than the summary "GB." So your 22GB file is 24,159,191,040 bytes. If you have no motion menus, the additional overhead on disk may be minimal, but it will not be nothing. Encore's report of 27GB may be the more commonly reported
The more important problem is that a "25GB" bluray disk only holds 25,025,314,816 bytes, which is more like 23.3GB.
You also will find that there are small differences between BD-R and BD-RE. A BD-RE in imgburn is reporting 22.56GB (24,220,008,448 bytes). (When building images, you will see an option in Encore for the type of image BD-R or BD-RE.)
So I believe that a 22GB mpeg, Bluray ready so no encoding, with some additional overhead and menus, may not fit on a "25GB" disk.

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Format                                   : BDAV
Format/Info                              : Blu-ray Video
File size                                : 1,98 GiB
Duration                                 : 12min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variabile
Overall bit rate                         : 22,3 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 24,0 Mbps
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ID                                       : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC                   : Si
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Codec ID                                 : 27
Duration                                 : 12min
Bit rate mode                            : Variabile
Bit rate                                 : 21,2 Mbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 22,0 Mbps
Width                                    : 1.920 pixel
Height                                   : 1.080 pixel
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 25,000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bit
Scan type                                : Interlacciato
Scan order                               : Top field first
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.408
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ID                                       : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID                                  : 1 (0x1)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension                           : CM (complete main)
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Bit rate mode                            : Costante
Bit rate                                 : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 canali
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48,0 KHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bit
Compression mode                         : Con perdita
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Hello friend, generally you can put only 120 min on a bd of 25gb, the real capacity of an bd 25 gb is 23gb, you can put all the video in but u have to tweak your video bit rate when you export your video , i have to export a 129 min timeline with a variable bitrate of 20 and max bitrate of 22 and someday i get lucky somedays not, you will have to learn how to use a bit rate calculator , (google it) cause i dont know it, so i fine tune video bitrate until it shows me my final render around 19-20 gb or maybe less to be sure choose on sound a lower bitrate 320 or maybe lower and dolby digital and try to mux them (multiplexer option select TS). This is my workflow in general...
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