Extract structure and DS?

Hi Experts,
Some fields(needed) are in Extract structure but not in DS(0svy_data_1)(T-code RSA6) in CRM system.I want to know the reason and how to keep them consistancy?
Thanks and regards,
Gavin

Hi
Just try to maintain the DS in LBWE and see whether ur DS has selected the Hide for those fields.
Khaja

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I have a very basic question here.Can anybody explain to me in detail the difference between an extraction structure and Datasource.
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Hi:
I am pasting a summarized def. from sap notes.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bw30b/helpdata/en/ad/6b023b6069d22ee10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
Data Source:
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Thanks,
Bill

Hi,
Datasource / tables in the source system
Go to RSA2 (DS Repository) in your source system and display your source system.
If Extraction Method is 'V' - you are lucky and you see table name where data is taken from.
If it is F* - function module is used, and you have to go thru its code to see all the tables it uses and logic how data is
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Ext. Meth   Short text
V                 Transparent Table or DB View
D                  Fixed Domain Value
F1                Function Module (Complete Interface)
F2                Function Module (Simple Interface)
Q                 Extraction Using ABAP Query
A                 DataSource Append
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Table ROOSOURCE in ERP.
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Hi MTi,
Thanks for your reply. I checked in ROOSOURCE and ROOSFIELD table and found that we activated the datasource somewhere in 14.08.2008 and the delivered version is in 18.11.2008. Now i reactivated the datasource in RSA5 and could see all the fields in RSA6.
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This can be done at either of the places. This is all dependant on where can we afford to.. in terms of system uitlization. That is, if the look up table is too big in SAP and we have a small volume in BW then its better in BW and the viceversa of it.
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See screen shot as well:
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Field GAMNG with reference field MEINS: Reference table MARA is replaced by ZOXPRD0150
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Field PLSVN with reference field PLNME: Reference table PLKO is replaced by ZOXPRD0150
Field LODIV with reference field MEINS: Reference table MARA is replaced by ZOXPRD0150
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