Extreme base and daisy chaining lacie stackable drives...

Had a external lacie drive working fine, showing up on my desk top. proceeded to daisy chain another drive on top, and can't get the thing to show up on the desk top for the life of me. What and where do I plug in the connecting usb or firewire, how do I get it to show up. Any help is greatly appreciated. thank you in advance.

thanks for response. So indeed the wires were wrong. Have everything on firewire now and the drive shows up. turned computer off and restarted everything. Now here is the issue. The original drive is recognized and mounts appropriately. When I hit connect to the next drive (the new one connected to first via firewire), I get this:THE ALIAS "NAME OF MY AIRPORT" COULD NOT BE OPENED BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL ITEM CANNOT BE FOUND" with my options to delete or fix alias. Deleting tells me I don't have sufficient privileges (not so sure I want to do that anyway) and fix just directs me to pick an application to open . I am at a loss.

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