Extreme base station 802.11g Mystery

Been trying to wrap my head around this for the past week.
Girlfriend unplugged our perfectly working Airport express from wall outlet by mistake. She plugs it back in but no connection is detected by our two ibook G4s (both running leopard). After trying all three different resets and researching around on the internet I chalk it up to a faulty Airport Express. Head to my local mac store and purchase a lightly used Extreme base station. Set it up and it TOO is undetected by my laptop.
Stranger yet, I can see all my neighbors access points from my two ibooks but I cannot see the airport extreme. My ancient G3 clamshell was fired up and it CAN detect this extreme base station and connect to it no problems. Same goes for my iphone.
So this gets me to thinking. THis is a software conflict, no? I get the feeling I might have done a software update right before this whole fiasco but I'm not certain. I try downgrading firmware for base station but no joy.
Also, this might be a strange tangent but I live in Japan where the Airport express and extreme are rebranded to Airmac express and Airmac extreme. "So what", you say? It just so happens that my two ibooks (the computers that can't see the wifi network) are north american spec computers. My iPhone and G3 Clamashell are both japanese and can see/connect to the base station.
Does anyone know if wifi base stations in Japan have compatibility issues with non japanese computers? I mean, I understand the hardware should be the same, but perhaps software is different for the two?
If anyone has the slightest idea or some helpful advice please please please. I'm just about to do a clean install of leopard but something tells me that's not the culprit since BOTH of my computers are having this problem it must be some strange setting somewhere. BTW, both computers where networked together as to share files on this once working wifi connection.

Duane,
The drinks are on me if you ever find your way to Japan!
Changed the Base Station channel to 11 and it worked like a charm.
I didn't even think about this since the channel was set to automatic. I assumed (wrongly) that it would find the best suitable channel. But as you stated, US spec uses channels 1-11 while here in japan I had the option of channel 12 and 13. Thank you.
Btw, Nice clammy pic you got there.

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Dear Bluenova - ( +or other interested readers+ )
I know that this reply is two months since this topic was initially posted.
This is a longstanding Airport Extreme ( AEBS ) problem that's been noted since 2006-2007.
It has been an ongoing issue for me -AND- I continue to experience it even after recently upgrading my AEBS.
I finally called AppleCare in mid-Sept. and opened a formal problem case report.
As of today (Oct 15, 2010) I still have an open & unresolved case with AppleCare.
The problem has been escalated twice -and- is now referred to Engineering Dept for research & resolution.
I was curious what steps or actions you have taken -and/or- if you still experience the problem.
_Readers Please Note_
Many users have posted messages regarding problems with Airport Extreme *+DROPPING CONNECTIONS+* .
However, with careful reading, it becomes obvious that many forum posters are not sufficiently clear
-and- often confuse or do NOT make the distinction between ..... DIFFERENT TYPES OF CONNECTION PROBLEMS.
. ( wifi/network connection probs - vs - internet connection probs )
SEE HELPFUL POST BY WILLIAM KARCHINSKI
Topic : *+Having issues with your AirPort connection? Please be specific+*
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2227197
FWI
If you suspect that you are having the *dropped internet connection* type problem,
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Set Airport in Menubar to *"SHOW TIME CONNECTED"*
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.... Airport Extreme – dropping or losing *Internet Connections* ... ( +not wifi connection type probs+ )
.... please let me know.
I would like to be able to correspond directly with others via email to share info
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So you agree to the lose of the Airport Express removal has caused me to lose enough of a signal to make the Internet...
Sorry but I'm not sure what this long run-on sentence is trying to say.
You asked if the network could be wirelessly extended and that is what I replied to.

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Is anyone of the opinion that a lot of the post 10.4.8 wireless connectivity problems being experienced by a lot of iMac and Pro intel-mac users is to do with Apple trying to roll out SW and HW that conform to this new spec instead of, in the first instance, ensuring robust solutions with the common 802.11g protocol with their new intel range? In effect, are they trying to run before they can walk with this?
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