Extreme base station instewad of internal card?

I have an iMac with no internal card and an extra base station. Can they work together (via ethernet cable) to access my new Extreme (n) Base station that I now use with portables?

Yes as long as you configure them both to use WDS.

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  • Using Airport Extreme Base Station As A Wireless Card?

    Hi,
    I don't know if this is even possible but here's what I'd like to do:
    I've started to share an internet connection with a cousin of mine that lives in my apartment building. The connection is in her apartment and as far as I can tell the wireless signal is coming from the modem she has, there is no stand alone router/ base station. So far I've just been connecting using my iBook with the aiport card in it. No problems. I just had to get the ip number and password from her and I was hooked right up.
    Here's my real question:
    I also have a G4 Mini with no wireless card in it at all and an Airport Extreme base station from before we started sharing a connection. In the time that we've been sharing I haven't connected to the internet at all using the Mini. Now I'm wondering if there is a way I can hook the Airport Extreme to the Mini and somehow use it as a replacement for a wireless card in the Mini. Thus using the Mini connected to the Airport to connect just the Mini to the internet.
    I'm not worried about the iBook and do not wish to reconfigure the way I'm using/ connecting with it. Everything is peachy with that.
    If this is possible, how can I do it?
    Thank you in advance for any help with this.

    Ernest Lohrer wrote:
    Hi,
    I don't know if this is even possible but here's what I'd like to do:
    I've started to share an internet connection with a cousin of mine that lives in my apartment building. The connection is in her apartment and as far as I can tell the wireless signal is coming from the modem she has, there is no stand alone router/ base station.
    She has an "integrated" modem/router/access point.
    So far I've just been connecting using my iBook with the aiport card in it. No problems. I just had to get the ip number and password from her and I was hooked right up.
    Here's my real question:
    I also have a G4 Mini with no wireless card in it at all and an Airport Extreme base station from before we started sharing a connection. In the time that we've been sharing I haven't connected to the internet at all using the Mini. Now I'm wondering if there is a way I can hook the Airport Extreme to the Mini and somehow use it as a replacement for a wireless card in the Mini. Thus using the Mini connected to the Airport to connect just the Mini to the internet.
    I'm not worried about the iBook and do not wish to reconfigure the way I'm using/ connecting with it. Everything is peachy with that.
    If this is possible, how can I do it?
    Set up the AEBSn as a "bridge" and connect the G4 Mini to one of the "wired" internet connections.

  • Connect AirPort Extreme Base Station to air card

    How do you connect AirPort Extreme Base Station to Verizon Air Card?

    Sorry, but the Air Card cannot be used with the USB port on the AirPort Extreme because that port will only work with a hard drive and/or a printer.
    Suggest that you check with Verizon to see if they have an adapter or wireless router for the Air Card that will provide an Ethernet signal to the AirPort Extreme.

  • Power Mac G3 Pismo with Airport wireless card in Mac OS X 10.4 won't connect to wireless network  with  newest Airport Extreme Base Station set at WPA Personal/WPA 2 Personal encryption.

    My Power Book G3 Pismo with an Airport wireless card  running Mac OS X 10.4.11 will not connect to my new Airport
    Extreme Base Station using WPA Personal/WPA 2 Person encryption.  The Airport firmware is version 9.52.  From
    posts I've read online at different places indicates the Airport card should support the WPA encryption.  Perhaps the problem
    is the Base Station is using a combination setting and the fault is in the base station?
    Thanks for any suggestions

    Perhaps an inexpensive usb wireless adapter would work as well?
    This is probably the simplest way to get the G3 connected to the wireless network.
    I'll have to read up on getting an express and using it as a wireless bridge as I am unfamiliar with the concept.
    The new AirPort Extreme is broadcasting a wireless signal.
    A new AirPort Express could be located close to the G3. The Express will pick up the wireless signal from the AirPort Extreme, then provide an Ethernet connection to the G3 though a short Ethernet cable. 
    This can work very well......IF.....you keep the G3 at a fixed location, since it will always be connected to the AriPort Express using an Ethernet cable.
    I do have an old Linksys Wireless G router.  I wonder if that would work?
    In theory, yes. But it would have to use much older WEP "security", which is easily cracked in minutes using free tools available on the Internet. So, anyone who really wanted to get on the network could do so. It's an option, but not a very good one.

  • Setting up airport extreme card and airport extreme base station

    I have an ibook G4 about 3 years old with osx10.4.10 recently installed. I have recently bought an airport extreme card and have also bought an airport extreme base station.
    There seems to be a problem with the set up of the card. It does not seem to find any wireless networks at all, including the base station. The base station seems to be working as I went through setting this up with Apple phone support and we managed to do it by connecting the laptop to the base station with an ethernet cable.
    I think the problem is with the card. I think I need to reinstall and set up the card again from scratch, but can't figure out how to do this -aiport utility and airport setup assistant don't seem to help here as they take you straight to the stage of setting up a base station. I seem to remember when I originally installed the card for the very first time (before attempting to set up the base station) that it did find other wireless networks, so I don't think there is a physical problem with the card.
    Any suggestions on getting the card working appreciated.
    Many thanks

    Hello bblairlondon. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
    First, verify if OS X "recognizes" the card, by using the System Profiler utility. Select the AirPort Card option under Network in the column on the left. The "Wireless Card Type" should be "AirPort Extreme (nxnnnn, nxnnnn)."
    If no card appears, I suggest that you double-check your AirPort Extreme Card installation by using the following Apple Tech article: iBook G4: CIP Instructions
    If the card does appear, then try the following ...
    Reset the PRAM
    o Shut down the computer.
    o Turn on the computer.
    o Press and hold the Command-Option-P-R keys. You must press this key combination before the gray screen appears.
    o Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the second time.
    o Release the keys.
    (ref: Resetting your Mac's PRAM and NVRAM)

  • OS X 10.2 w/ Airport Card Connecting to Extreme Base Station

    Hey--
    I'm on a G3 Powerbook (w/Firewire) running OS X 10.2 and I installed an Airport Card and I'm trying to connect to a new Extreme Base Station-- and PB can't see the Base station in the Airport Utility. Although my PB does receive the signal from the base station.
    I've tried:
    - Resetting the base station
    - Loaded Airport 2.1.1 software update
    - a million configurations
    - yelling at it...
    The airport card does work, because it connected on another wireless system.
    Can someone help me with the definative fix?
    Mike

    Welcome to the discussion area, stacidesign!
    First, you have verified that the PC can connect to another wireless network, correct? If it can, then that tells you that the wireless card is functioning correctly.
    You'll have better luck connecting to a newer wireless router if you are able to update the PC to Windows XP SP3. Have you tried this?
    It's also possible that the wireless card in the PC can connect to a 802.11 "b" or "g" network, but not to an "n" network. To check that out, you need to use AirPort Utility - Manual Setup to make a change in the radio mode of the AirPort Extreme.
    Click the Wireless tab below the row of icons
    Hold down the option key on your Mac while you click on the Radio Mode selection box
    Write down your current settings so you can return to them later if needed
    Select this Radio Mode...+802.11n only (5 GHz) -- 802.11 b/g+
    Keep the Wireless Security set to "None" temporarily
    Update to save changes and allow 30-40 seconds for the AirPort Extreme to restart
    Restart the PC
    See if the PC can connect now
    Please post back on your results
    Message was edited by: Bob Timmons

  • Ibook G-3 with old airport card can't see New Airport Extreme Base Station

    I have been trying for a week now to get my G-3 ibook set up on my Airport Extreme Network. No matter what I do, I can't sign on to the network. When I put in the password I get an error message 3151. I have no idea what this means. I have read everything, restarted base, changed network password, trashed all airport and prefs on G-3 and reinstalled. Although my network shows up in the control strip, it doesn't show in the setup assistant. Please help if you can, I'm about to go crazy! Thanks.
    Power Mac G5 and ibook G3 Clamshell   Mac OS X (10.4.9)   ibook is running 9.2.2
    Power Mac G5 and ibook G3 Clamshell   Mac OS X (10.4.9)   ibook is running 9.2.2
    Power Mac G5 and ibook G3 Clamshell   Mac OS X (10.4.9)   ibook is running 9.2.2

    Dear Duane, I did have 802.11b configured, but I had the WPA instead of WEP enabled. When I reconfigured my network, the clamshell was instantly able to join and use the network. I have many many questions about how to use the network to allow both computers to communicate, but I'll read up on it and I'm sure the answers will be there. You saved me $240.00 for the 1st hour and $160.00 for anything over that Techserve was going to charge me to come and set it up. I can't thank you enough. Everyone tells me not to waste money, but to save for a new ibook with System X, but I love my old clamshell and I'm going to get it a bigger hard drive so it can be upgraded to run OS X. It's the old 4 Gb one. I can't thank you enough for your solution! Now I can work on the laptop in my bedroom! I love Mac stuff and I knew the Extreme base station would work, regardless of what all the posters have been saying.
    Power Mac G5 and ibook G3 Clamshell   Mac OS X (10.4.10)   ibook is running 9.2.2

  • AirPort, older AirPort Extreme Base Station, AirPort Express, Newer AirPort Extreme Base Station

    This may sound like a fairly dumb question, but here goes anyway:
    I have a 27" iMac with the following AirPort Extreme card:
    Card Type:    AirPort Extreme  (0x168C, 0x8F)
    Firmware Version:    Atheros 9280: 2.1.14.6
    For a Base Station, I'm currently using a pretty long-in-the-tooth M8799LL/A AirPort Extreme Base Station (with modem and antenna port)
    I recently bought an Airport Express:
    AirPort Express MB321LL/A (A1264) to
    A. Use AirTunes to send iTunes from my Man Cave on the first floor at one end of the house to the family room on the first floor at the other, where it will connect to an A/V setup, and, probably, one of my USB printers
    B. Act as a repeater for the AirPort Extreme Base Station, which is physically closer to the Man Cave than to the family room. My wife and I use our ancient-but-hangin'-in-there iBook G4s in the family room (and upstairs) to check email, eBay, etc. Both in the family room and especially upstairs, we sometimes get only 2-3 bars on the AirPort signal strength indicator in the menu bar.
    I see that I can get, from a well-known third-party retailer, an AirPort Extreme 802.11n A1143 (1st Generation), for an exceptionally reasonable price.
    My question is, what would getting the AirPort Extreme 802.11n A1143 do for me, if anything? I know it would give me one more signal source in the repeater chain, and I could probably put the Auld Nyle M8799LL/A in the stairway or upstairs to boost the signal upstairs, and I could use the USB port in the AirPort Extreme A1143 for connecting another USB printer or USB external hard drive (would this drive be available to any Mac on the AirPort network?)
    Any other configuration possibilities and suggestions greatly appreciated!
    Peace & Love
    Bart Brown

    Thank you for the prompt reply and the very helpful links. I'm going through all the support docs right now, but from your explanation and what I've seen in the support docs so far, it would appear that the maximum bandwidth is achieved by a physically-connected "Roaming Network."
    I'm so out of it, I'm afraid I'd never heard  of "Powerline adapters," but I looked them up, and I guess this is the system that uses "Romex" - style standard house wiring to carry signal, which cuts down on each individual Base Station's power overhead (does it also affect bandwidth?).
    I see a lot of names selling these adapters -- Western, D-Link, NETGEAR, ZyXEL, Monster, Sling Media, PowerNet, Cisco-Linksys, Actiontec, Medialink, Rosewill, TRENDnet -- and a lot of different configurations: 1 port, 2 ports, 4 ports. Basically I have one 27" iMac that doesn't go anywhere (it's not too portable!), a couple iBook G4s, and a point where I want to run 1/8" mini-jack-to-RCA L/R audio cable from the AirPort Express to an A/V receiver. I doubt this configuration is going to change, as I'm 63, and too lazy to lug stuff around if I don't have to. What do you think would be the best solution for me, considering I just ordered the AEBSn and I already have a brand-new AXn. Should the 27" iMac, since it ain't movin', be connected by ethernet/"Powerline adapter", rather than relying on the internal Airport Extreme card? I guess what I'm asking is, given what I want to do, how many of these Powerline adapters, what kind (do you recommend), with how many ethernet ports do I need?
    Thank you again for your prompt and informed help.
    Bart Brown

  • Help - Kodak 5300 printer doesn't work w/ Airport Extreme Base Station

    Hi All,
    Running a MacBook on OS 10.4.11 (airport extreme card) and an I-Book on 10.3.9 (airport card) - just bought an airport extreme base station and a Kodak 5300 all-in-one printer. Base station works fantastic with internet and both CPUs. Kodak printer works great when directly connected to laptops by USB. When printer connected to USB port on Base station it recognizes printer but wont print. Set-up printer with Bonjour settings - but printer won't print with WiFi. "Printer not responding" window appears. Have phoned Kodak support. They tell me the printer should work on Wi-fi but I should contact Apple. Have phoned Apple support - they're stumped. Kodak website recommends using a Silex wireless router with this printer and claims it is compatible - so it can handle wireless set-ups.
    Has anyone out there had success with the Kodak 5300 and the Airport Extreme Base Station? It's a great printer that uses very little ink (inexpensive cartridge replacement). I really don't want to fall back on my old Epson.
    Thanks for any thoughts/solutions.

    Hi Ron! Thanks for checking inside Kodak. I agree as a first printer from kodak it's a good one, and I certainly appreciate the attempt to buck the industry-standard of milking the customers on ink.
    However, I'm not willing to go buy a silex device, when I already HAVE a device: the apple airport. I also got a reply from kodak support indicating that they didn't want to comment on future products, etc etc. Maybe I'm misreading this by assuming product == hardware, but I'm certainly not willing to ditch my current printer for a newer model for what I consider to be a DRIVER issue (I could be wrong of course). Maybe a firmware issue, but certainly not a hardware issue.
    What I expect from Kodak is a new driver and/or firmware that would make this work with the apple airport. On the one hand I can understand not wanting to divulge company secrets and upcoming "products", but for a newer driver, I would expect to hear a "we're aware of the problem and are working on a fix". That would go MILES towards making me more patient and less irritated with Kodak. Telling me to wait for newer "products" or go buy a silex is a good way to loose customers.
    So if you have any internal clout (or a message board), be sure to raise cain there for them to do the right thing.
    jan
    P.S. At the current time of writing, the silex website is not operational ("This site is temporarily unavailable. Please notify the System Administrator"). Way to go silex!

  • Apple TV vs Apple AirPort Extreme Base Station (Simultaneous Dual-Band)

    I have an original 40 GB TV that connects to my new ( (latest model)) Apple AirPort Extreme Base Station (Simultaneous Dual-Band) (MC340LL/A). Since upgrading to this new AEBS, my TV will not connect via its internal Airport card. The TV will "see" my "Home-LAN" but always gives the error message, "Connection Failed".
    I have tried to Reset and Restore the TV, even the "Restore to Factory Defaults"! I have changed the security settings on my AEBS from an Open Network (no security) to WPA/WPA Personal, WPA Personal. I have changed the "Radio Mode" from "802.11a/n - 802.11b/g" to "802.11a - 802.11b/g". The TV will not connect! I now have it connected to my "Home_LAN" via Ethernet, and it works fine.
    Anyone with a similar problem and a suggestion or solution? Do you think the internal Airport Card is the problem? Thanks

    As suggested in another discussion area, (AirPort), I reset the AEBS to factory defaults. On the TV, I went to >Settings>General>Network>Configure Wireless>Wireless Networks. I could then see the generic "Apple Network xxxxx" on the TV. From my MacBookPro, I verified that I could connect to the TV by launching iTunes and noting that the TV was now visible in the "Devices" menu. Went back to the AEBS and ran through the "Setup" routine. I did NOT use the "Previous Settings" but instead, saved the old settings profile, created a new wireless network and new settings profile and enabled WPA2 Personal encryption. I then went back to the TV and went through the "Settings" routine again (as noted above). This time, after entering my WPA2 password, the TV connected to the network and problem was solved. Thanks.

  • Using Airport Extreme Base Station with Cable Modem

    Hi everyone,
    I have just bought an Airport Extreme Base Station. I connected it to my cable modem (Surfboard 3100) through the WAN port and my iMac G4 is connected to it through the Ethernet port. Installed the Airport Utility, and configured the base station with the normal settings of DHCP for Internet and DHCP for internal network.
    After restarting the base station, my Internet connection from the iMac through the base station is very slow and most of the time will time-out. My Internet connection through my PowerBook G4 using wireless through the base station is ok though.
    My question is, is there some setting which I should set for the Ethernet portion of the base station to make my wired connections to the Internet work?
    Thanks in advance for any help!
    regards,
    Weiming
    iMac G4   Mac OS X (10.4.10)  

    Hi,
    My iMac G4 does not have an Airport card. I did not physically restarted the base station, its part of the sequence when we update the configuration, that the base station will restart on its own.
    regards,
    Weiming

  • Have 2 airport extreme base stations connected in chain.  Airport utility shows slave unit without power. However, power is on slave unit, but status lights do not show up at all. Small green lights at each back port blink.  Anyone have any ideas?

    Have 2 airport extreme base stations connected in chain.  Airport utility shows slave unit without power. However, power is on slave unit, but status lights do not show up at all. Small green lights at each back port blink.  Anyone have any ideas?

    Unfortunately, you are describing the symptoms of an AirPort Extreme with a failing (or failed) internal power supply.
    As a last resort, try a Factory Default Reset on the AirPort Extreme as follows:
    Power off the AirPort by pulling the power cord
    Wait a minute or two
    Hold in the reset button first, and keep holding it in for an additional 8-10 seconds while you simultaneously plug the power back into the AirPort
    Release the reset button and allow a full minute for the AirPort to restart
    Now try to configure the AirPort again.  If you continue to see the same symptoms as before, the AirPort will need to be replaced.

  • Setting up airport extreme base station with Mac and PC

    I have an '02 iBook with an airport card installed and an airport extreme base station. my roommate has a PC and has the DSL connection in her room. i want to wirelessly network my iBook via the airport base. how do i do this? (my base was given to me without any manuals/disks etc)

    Your Netgear wireless router is your network's base station. Your parent's PC will not be "serving as a base station" - its presence on the network isn't at all relevant to what you want to do.
    To connect your G5 to the Netgear wireless router's network - click on your Mac's Airport menu, click on the name of your Netgear wireless router's network (it will appear in the list when you click on the Airport menu), and enter the wireless network password (if applicable) when prompted by the MacOS. That's is - you are connected!

  • Solution to Airport Extreme Base Station + Airport Express networking probs

    I've been investigating this for 3 straight days after inadvertently destabilizing my network. There are tons of posts discussing a variety of issues, all of which seem related. My goal here is to provide links to other relevant posts and explain what I ended up doing to get things to work.
    First, the background. You can skip below to SOLUTION if you don't really care... However, I highly recommend you take the time to read everything, as you'll get other useful information in the BACKGROUND section. I'm guessing many of you have similar, related problems so BACKGROUND might help provide context (and solutions) to some things you are seeing...
    MY SETUP:
    AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBS) of type b/g (round one, not square one), connects to the cable modem, and creates a WDS network that is then shared across two standard AirPort Express (AEX) units (100megabit, not the gigabit ones). One AEX serves as a relay unit that accepts clients, the other serves as a remote unit that also accepts clients. The intent is to show a single network throughout the house and let users log on to one network and move between networking units without having to switch from network to network.
    I have a variety of networked devices throughout the house all running on the same network (2 Mac Pros, a Powerbook G4, a Mac Mini, an Apple TV, a Windows XP laptop, two iPhones, two wifi printers, and a 5-unit Sonos system, plus the AEBS and two AEXs). Yeah, I'm a geek.
    The Mac Pros are both running 10.4.11, and the Powerbook is running 10.5.2.
    AEBS is running firmware 5.7
    AEXs are running firmware 6.3
    All Macs were initially accessing configs via the recently released AirPort Utility 5.3.1. More on that later.
    BACKGROUND:
    I've had this network setup working for about a year now. Recently, I've been having poor network performance problems and came to the conclusion it was a LAN problem (ie. problem with my home network, as opposed to with my ISP). Upon initial investigation, I began by looking at my networking logs (via AirPort Utility 5.3.1). You get to those by selecting the unit in question, choosing "Manual Configuration", the selecting the "Advanced" tab up top with the "Logging and SNMP" sub-tab. Click the "Logs and Statistics" button therein for log details from that unit.
    The first thing I noticed was "Administrative access denied to ff80::xxxxxxxxx" messages - a lot of them. I didn't recognize the ff80:: address in question, and so became concerned it was someone outside the network trying to hack one (or all) of the AEBS/AEX units. You can see threads discussing that investigation here:
    "Hack or panic?" - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1438486
    "Administrative access denied" - http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1438865
    Long and short of it is that the recent AirPort Utility 5.3.1 release (current as of March 13) seems to have problems (keychain) when attempting to access the AEBS and AEX units. The "Administrative access denied" logs actually refer to the client machine you are using when you try to read the logs. The ff80::xxxxxx address is simply the IPv6 address for the machine you are using; if you turn off IPv6 on your client machine, that address should switch over to begin showing a regular IP address instead (something like 10.0.1.xxx), which makes it easier to associate the IP to the machine. I explain how to deactivate IPv6 on both Tiger (10.4.x) and Leopard (1.5.x) here:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6814978#6814978
    Anyway, in the process of investigating the "Administrative access denied" problem, I began tinkering with my AEX settings. Specifically, I ended up performing a hard factory reset (unplug unit, plug back in while holding down the little button with paper click/pen for ~10-15 seconds until light flashes green 4x then reverts to amber/yellow/orange). I began reconfiguring my entire WDS network using the newly updated AirPort Utility 5.3.1, and that's when the trouble started.
    (If you are having problems seeing either your AirPort Extreme Base Station or AirPort Express, read this:)
    In short, each time I thought I had properly configured things and then confirmed settings (kicking off a reboot on the AEX unit) the unit would restart with new settings but not properly join the WDS and not show up in the AirPort Utility list of units. More specifically, I would start with a "wiped" AEX and see both the AEBS and the AEX in my AirPort Utility list, but upon confirm/reboot the AEX would disappear and the AEBS would remain. However, that's not 100% correct. It seems that sometimes I would end up with the AEX and NOT the AEBS. Because both the AEX and AEBS were theoretically "hosting" the same network name (remember, WDS shares the network name across units) my auto-login feature for my client computer's wifi seemed to "jump on" whichever unit it first saw hosting the default network name for my house. In other words, it seems what was really happening was that I was ending up with two separate networks in my house, both with the same name but not talking to each other (as opposed to two units sharing the same network name and internet connection). The AEX would continue to blink orange/amber/yellow (whichever color it is to your eyes ) because it could not grab an internet connection -- and if I was on the network through that AEX unit I would not get internet. But if i was connected through the AEBS I would continue to have internet access. As far as my client computer (my Mac Pro) was concerned, I was on the home wifi network even if I was on the AEX rather than the AEBS -- it would show the home wifi network name as the name of the network it had connected to. But when I opened the AirPort Utility 5.3.1 I would see only the AEX (if I was connected through it) or the AEBS (if connected through it) -- a clear indication that the units were not truly sharing the same network.
    I tried rebooting and reconfiguring the AEBS and AEX about 50 times (literally). I even tracked down an older version of the AirPort Utility 5.2.1 via this thread (see Tesserax post):
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1067565
    One interesting thing re: 5.2.1 is that the "Administrative access denied" errors summarized above disappeared. As explained in a post reference above, the going theory is that this a permissions/keychain problem new and unique to AirPort Utility 5.3.1. However, even though 5.2.1 does have a slightly different interface with different settings, I still couldn't get the WDS to work.
    EVENTUALLY, I came across this post:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1422527
    MuaddibOfArrakis walks through setting up a WDS from scratch, and the workflow is different than what is possible with either AirPort Utility 5.3.1 or 5.2.1. He's doing it with the old version of AirPort Admin Utility, which I fortunately saved a copy of many moons ago when I had somewhat-related problems with my WDS (since forgotten). In fact, it's a lot easier. What's nice about this older app is that it literally does the heavy lifting of "connecting" the AEBS and AEX units during the configuration -- it reboots both at the same time as the config is happening, and lets you choose from a list of available units to "add" to your WDS network. In short, it's a FAR SUPERIOR workflow even though some of the GUI isn't as intuitive as the newer AirPort Utilities that were designed to replace it.
    SOLUTION:
    If still have a copy of the AirPort Admin Utility follow the instructions from MuaddibOfArrakis here:
    http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1422527
    If not, try setting up your WDS network using AirPort Utility (hereafter AU), with these configs (take from my now-working network), as viewed through AirPort Utility 5.3.1.
    I. Configure your AEBS.
    Select the AEBS from AU, and choose "Manual Setup"
    1. Under the AirPort tab up top:
    a. Under "Base Station" sub-tab:
    i.) assign a name for that specific unit, so you can later identify the specific unit from the list of units -- this is the name that will show up beside the unit in the AU list of configurable units. You can name it something like "kitchen", or "office". I have mine numbered, so XXXXXv1, XXXXXv2 etc where the XXXXX is the name of the shared network and the numbers help me tell the units apart. Just be sure you name each uniquely, and if you have several you might write the name on the unit itself.
    ii.) pick a password for logging into that unit. This is different from the network password, its a security check to get in and change the configs on this unit later. Be sure to remember it in your keychain for the sake of simplicity, and write it down somewhere secure.
    iii.) if you choose to set time automatically, pick a location that you will use consistently across all your units. I use time.apple.com.
    iv.) uncheck "Allow configuration over Ethernet WAN port" unless you want to be able to remotely mess with settings -- which you almost certainly do not need to do.
    v.) I left the "Options" button alone - no settings there.
    b. Under the "Wireless" sub-tab:
    i.) Wireless Mode: "Participate in a WDS network"
    ii.) Network Name: this will be the name of your wifi network shared by all units, so be sure to remember what you pick. If you are already connected to this AEBS via wifi while you are making these changes, then you can use the same wifi name you already have set up -- you don't have to change it. Note that if you DO change it, after reboot your will LOSE connection to the network and have to reset your wifi settings on your client machine to match the new network/password in order to be able to access the network.
    iii.) pick a Radio Mode. I'm using b/g compatible. You'll want to do the same, unless you are on the new gigabit AEX. I'm pretty sure about this, but not 100% -- others post if I'm wrong.
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