Extreme, express, airtunes & no airport card?

I have a new Mac Pro on the way without an airport card. It will be connected to an Airport Extreme. My stereo is connected to an Airport Express for airtunes, currently via my G4 (with an airport card). Is it possible to connect to the Express via the Extreme on the Pro using Airtunes without an airport card?
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Is it possible to connect to the Express via the Extreme on the Pro using Airtunes without an airport card?
Yes. The Mac Pro would connect via Ethernet to the AirPort Extreme base station (AEBS) which would pass the signal wirelessly to the AirPort Express (AX).

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You must have a Mac or Windows computer running iTunes streaming the music to the AirPort Express (AX).

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I don't have much experience in this area, but I can assure it's supposed to be able to work together seamlessly. So no you should have to wait.
Have you tried basic troubleshooting? (repair permissions, reinstall software, reboot, etc.)

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Hello,
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May 31 17:37:07 jz-iBook kernel[0]: AirPort: Link DOWN (Client disAssoc 0)
May 31 17:37:02 jz-iBook configd[59]: AppleTalk shutdown
May 31 17:37:02 jz-iBook configd[59]: AppleTalk shutdown complete
May 31 17:37:02 jz-iBook launchd: Server 0 in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[248]: exited abnormally: Hangup
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May 31 17:37:11 jz-iBook launchd: Server 4e3f in bootstrap 1103 uid 0: "/usr/sbin/lookupd"[352]: exited abnormally: Hangup
May 31 17:37:11 jz-iBook configd[59]: posting notification com.apple.system.config.network_change
May 31 17:37:11 jz-iBook lookupd[354]: lookupd (version 369.5) starting - Wed May 31 17:37:11 2006
May 31 17:37:14 jz-iBook configd[59]: AppleTalk startup complete
May 31 17:37:26 jz-iBook configd[59]: hostname (multicast DNS) = jz-iBook
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Please perform a "factory default" reset on your AirPort Express. Note you may need to do this a few times to make sure it "sticks." Once completed successfully, the status light should flash amber NOT green.
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setting the channel to different numbers.
hard rebooting everything and resetting up the network.
getting a new modem.
getting a new Express.
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had my cable line redone (the cable folks thought it was frayed and maybe that was the problem).
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Thanks for your explicit comments iFelix.
No luck yet.
Here is where I stand:
- home wireless network: RedFoxNetwork
-->> Cable modem connected to Airport Extreme, router connected to Airport Extreme
-->> this Network hosts iMac G5 (with iTunes, Airport card), Mac Mini, Windoz XP Dell
-->> uses channel 11
--->> uses WEP
- 2nd network (RedFoxMusic) - as you suggested
-->> this network is hardwired from router above to Airport Express
-->> 2nd network configured as you suggested
---- do not Distribute IP
---- uses channel 2
---- iTunes speakers named "Living Room"
---- no WEP
So now I have 2 networks, RedFoxNetwork & RedFoxMusic, in the Airport menu bar selector on my iMac.
When the iMac is on the primary wireless network, TheRedFoxNetwork, I do not see "living Room" as a choice in the lower right speaker selector in iTunes. Playing music in iTunes produces no music from the living room (hard wired Airport Express connection).
Just for kicks, I select the RedFoxMusic network on the iMac. "Living Room" appears as a speaker choice, ITunes plays over Airport Express & stereo.
What have I missed that I needed to select the second (hardwired) network in order for AirTunes to work properly?
Thanks in advance.
Rob
As I said "never connect to the Airport Express
network", this means "never connect to the Airport
Express network".
If I create a second wireless network, then would
I
need to switch to the network supporting the
Airport
Express?
No
If not, the remote speakers would not
appear in the iTunes Speaker selection dropdown,
correct?
They will appear as the Airport Express is still part
of your network, in fact both wireless networks are
in fact one network, but you want iTunes to go via
the ethernet connection to avoid the dropouts.
Or does the wired connection obviate the need to
switch to the 2nd (iTunes only) network?
Yes.
Which is why I said "never connect to the Airport
Express network".
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Basically what you have done is utilize OS X's Internet Sharing feature on your iMac. This turns your iMac into a "software" router. In this case, you MacBook (& other wireless clients) can access the Internet through the iMac so you do not need to get a hardware router, like an Express or Extreme base station in order to do so. The only constraint is that the iMac must be on for this to work.

Regarding an Apple TV and an existing Airport Express/AirTunes setup

alright, i think i'm going to make the jump now for the new Apple TV. but i do have a few questions, particularly re: my existing Airport Express/AirTunes and wiring since i'm really maxed out in terms of open ports that i have left.
—my HDMI will have to go through a new HDMI smart switch hub into my older plasma that has one HDMI input. no problem, i've researched the smart switch, and realize the Apple TV may go in the low priority input since it seems to throw a continous current. if anyone LOVES their smart switch, throw me a bone here.
--however, i will need to go audio optical out into my receiver based on my current setup. and my receiver's optical inputs are all currently used. however, one is in use by a nearby Airport Express. since that AE has been used for AirTunes for years, i assume i can now safely ditch it's optical out since i will now be running my music through the Apple TV instead, correct? and therefore i will have my receiver's optical input now freed up, and there goes my Apple TV wire instead. just looking for verification here.
--since this AE is right there, will I get any speed advantage to the Apple TV by dropping an Ethernet cable from the AE's output into the Apple TV's Ethernet input, rather than relying on a pure wireless signal? my assumption is no, since they are both receiving the signal from my Airport Extreme on the other side of the house, but i thought it was still a worthwhile question.
--this particular AE has also been acting as a WiFi range extender (it's b,g,n). so i guess i will still just leave it plugged into the wall, but turn off it's AirTunes sharing, correct?
--(side note: if i wind up not needing the AE's optical out, and i don't need it's Ethernet out, i will then be moving it across the room since i'm ridiculously tapped out of electrical outlets by my entertainment center. and that's where the Apple TV power cord will go. just a boring fyi)
--i truly think i had another important question, but i cannot remember it. so i'll repost when it comes to me.
so i think i know my answers, but i always learn in these forums. so any thoughts or feedback is greatly appreciated.
thank you!

kevinopp wrote:
—my HDMI will have to go through a new HDMI smart switch hub into my older plasma that has one HDMI input. no problem, i've researched the smart switch, and realize the Apple TV may go in the low priority input since it seems to throw a continous current. if anyone LOVES their smart switch, throw me a bone here.
Older AppleTV did not play well with some switches, so it'd be sensible to get advice about one that definitely works with the new unit. They may have ironed out HDMI glitches but too early to tell.
--however, i will need to go audio optical out into my receiver based on my current setup. and my receiver's optical inputs are all currently used. however, one is in use by a nearby Airport Express. since that AE has been used for AirTunes for years, i assume i can now safely ditch it's optical out since i will now be running my music through the Apple TV instead, correct? and therefore i will have my receiver's optical input now freed up,
Yes, the AppleTV will replace the Airport for optical audio duties from your iTunes library. Add an iPhone/iPas Remote app and it should work very nicely as it did with the 1st gen.
--since this AE is right there, will I get any speed advantage to the Apple TV by dropping an Ethernet cable from the AE's output into the Apple TV's Ethernet input, rather than relying on a pure wireless signal? my assumption is no, since they are both receiving the signal from my Airport Extreme on the other side of the house, but i thought it was still a worthwhile question.
I doubt it would be of any benefit as AppleTV has wireless n anyway.
--this particular AE has also been acting as a WiFi range extender (it's b,g,n). so i guess i will still just leave it plugged into the wall, but turn off it's AirTunes sharing, correct?
In that case if it's an extender you may need it on for AppleTV to pick up the wireless, though I think I'd try and see if it receives the main signal adequately first.
--i truly think i had another important question, but i cannot remember it. so i'll repost when it comes to me.
I know that feeling.

Help in Planning Network: G5/iBook G4/Airport Extreme & Express?

Hi Folks,
I could use some help setting up a WiFI network to accomplish three goals (see below).
Hardware and Software:
Computers
-Dual Core 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 Desktop Computer (note: NO internal airport WiFi card), OS 10.4.11
-iBook G4 with internal Airport Card (currently with dead HD, awaiting a replacement HD any day). Can't remember is this has an early version of OS10.4 or 10.3.
Airport
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-Airport Card internal card in the iBook G4
Airport Software loaded on my G5:
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** I do NOT have Airport Setup Assistant software on the G5, nor can I locate it on the OS install disks that came with the G5.
Network Goals:
Previously, I've setup a simple WiFi network in my apartment by using only the Airport Express: I connected the DSL modem to the Airport Express and transmitted the WiFI internet signal to the iBook. I haven't had that setup for quite some time; recently I was given the Airport Extreme and I'd like to finally get a network up and running.
I have a roommate that wants internet access so I'd like to setup a WiFi network to accomplish as many of the following three goals as possible:
1) Wifi internet capability.
1a) G5 wired connection to DSL modem/Airport Express as my primary internet connection and for fastest speeds (again, no WiFI card in the G5).
1b) Transmit WiFi internet signal so my roommate can share internet access, but for security purposes limit my roommate from accessing any data/files on my computer(s).
1c) WiFi internet access for my own G4 iBook.
2) WiFi file sharing network
2a) Wireless network so that my G4 iBook can access data/files from my G5 (private network roommate excluded).
3) Stream iTunes.
I have my iTunes library on an external HD, currently connected to my G5. I'd like to broadcast iTunes music to another room. Can the Airport Extreme stream iTunes from my G5 (the latter with no internal Airport Card) to another room where the Airport Express is connected to another stereo receiver/speakers? If yes, can I use my G4 laptop as an iTunes remote control to make music selections?
Question: Can all (or most?) of these goals be accomplished with the hardware/software on hand?
.... so....
Currently, I plugged in the Airport Extreme connected with an ethernet cable to the G5 (using the connection with the <- -> symbol on the Airport Extreme). The G5 doesn't identify the Airport Extreme, which makes me think I need the AIrport Setup Assistant Software?
In any case, I'm lost as to how to configure this setup to accomplish my goals. I've owned Apple since 1994 but haven't delved far into setting up networks.
Any guidance and help would be tremendously appreciated!
Thanks a bunch,
Lovegasoline

Bump.
Can anyone offer some basic guidance?
Do I need Airport Setup Assistant software to configure this network?
Thanks.

Aiport Express vs. Airport Extreme

My Airport Extreme was damaged in a lightning storm. I already have an Airport Express to take it's place for the time being. If I purchase another Express to extend my network, will it not have the range of the Extreme? I need at least 35 feet of coverage for my network.
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It has a LAN port for wired clients.
It can support fifty wireless clients over the Express' ten.
It can support an external antenna.
One model has a 56K modem which can be useful to a) dial-in or b) when your broadband connection fails.
However the Extreme does not do AirTunes.
AirPort base station differences (original document by Duane)
http://www.ifelix.co.uk/tech/1301.html
iFelix

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I have an one year old Intel IMac running OS/X 10.5.7 and recently bought the Airport express. Setup went smooth and fast and within 10 minutes it was working. I did all the software and firmware updates.
Then I connected my wife's Windows laptop, network was detected and the password was accepted immediately so I got that connected as well.
Last, but apparently not least, I tried to connect my G3 iBook running OSX 10.2.8 with an Airport card (not the extreme but the predecessor) so I could use that one in the garden but it will not connect.
When I open the airport icon on the top of the screen then I see the network. If I select it and try to connect I have to enter a password. After a few seconds I get a message that "There was an error joining the selected Airport network".
When I use the Airport Setup assistant to establish the connection if tells me that "the password you entered was incorrect".
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Hello CarreraHenk. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
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Which wireless encryption standard are you using on your new 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station's (AXn) wireless network ... WEP, WPA or WPA2?
For WPA, the minimum requirements are the AirPort Card & OS X 10.3.n. The AirPort Card will not support WPA2.

Using AP express to connect Mac Pro w/o airport card to internet

Hi, I am using an Airport Express station to connect my Mac Pro to the internet. I am doing so by having my Airport Express connected to my main Airport Extreme base station and have the Mac Pro plugged into the Airport Express' ethernet port.
Once I do this everything works fine and my Mac Pro gets really fast internet for about 5 minutes and then it cuts out completely. Nothing can get the internet working except unplugging the Airport Express and plugging it back in.
Anyone know what the problem is?
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Any help would be appreciated.

Correct if you want to use the Thunderbolt connector on the Mac.
The curious thing is.....the Mac can connect to the Express at up to 300 Mbps using wireless, but will be limited to 100 Mbps using the Ethernet port on the Express.
So, if you are looking for connection speed, wireless may well be much faster than the Ethernet connection.

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alright, i think i'm going to make the jump now for the new Apple TV. but i do have a few questions, particularly re: my existing Airport Express/AirTunes and wiring since i'm really maxed out in terms of open ports that i have left.
—my HDMI will have to go through a new HDMI smart switch hub into my older plasma that has one HDMI input. no problem, i've researched the smart switch, and realize the Apple TV may go in the low priority input since it seems to throw a continous current. if anyone LOVES their smart switch, throw me a bone here.
--however, i will need to go audio optical out into my receiver based on my current setup. and my receiver's optical inputs are all currently used. however, one is in use by a nearby Airport Express. since that AE has been used for AirTunes for years, i assume i can now safely ditch it's optical out since i will now be running my music through the Apple TV instead, correct? and therefore i will have my receiver's optical input now freed up, and there goes my Apple TV wire instead. just looking for verification here.
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--this particular AE has also been acting as a WiFi range extender (it's b,g,n). so i guess i will still just leave it plugged into the wall, but turn off it's AirTunes sharing, correct?
--(side note: if i wind up not needing the AE's optical out, and i don't need it's Ethernet out, i will then be moving it across the room since i'm ridiculously tapped out of electrical outlets by my entertainment center. and that's where the Apple TV power cord will go. just a boring fyi)
--i truly think i had another important question, but i cannot remember it. so i'll repost when it comes to me.
so i think i know my answers, but i always learn in these forums. so any thoughts or feedback is greatly appreciated.
thank you!

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I read here that people did it successfully please tell me how
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