Extreme lag on mixer and smudge tools with "all layers" checked

Running Photoshop CC 64, Win7 x64 on an i7-3820 based machine with 32GB of ram, 256GB SSD, several 2TB drives and a GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 16X video card.
Running the latest non-beta WHQL drivers for the video card,
i have photoshop set to:
use graphics acceleration,
drawing mode advanced,
opencl.
When I'm using the mixer brush and with the brush set to sample all layers, depending on brush size, I experience a large lag in rendering. When doing this, my CPU usage is around 10% and disk usage is also low so I'm assuming the graphics card is the bottleneck here.
Images are from a 21MP canon 5dMK II, 8 bit files. I can replicate the problem with a single background layer and mixing/smudging on a 2nd transparent layer set to use all layers.
Any thoughts?

sheetsofsound wrote:
When I'm using the mixer brush and with the brush set to sample all layers, depending on brush size, I experience a large lag in rendering. When doing this, my CPU usage is around 10% and disk usage is also low so I'm assuming the graphics card is the bottleneck here.
Any thoughts?
I think is has more to do with the process then compute power.  Its not something that lens itself to parallel processing that can use multiple processors and GPUs.  Brush size does increase the amount of data the need to be sampled and mixed in a repetitive sequential process. You will find the same thing happens with other tools that don't use your Video GPU like the smudge tool.  Its lag may even be greater then large mixer brush tool. Each recursion take some time. You make quick strokes with large tips brushes with these types of tools your going to have lag.   It not a simple process of laying down a single color over a path. In the real world its a physical process that happens in real time.  It take time to simulate that physical process digitally. Burn, Dodge, Blur and Sharpen brush tools I would think will also lag.

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