Extreme (N) No signal under 2.4ghz (N,B,G) Good signal under 5ghz (N,A)

Well Ive been having issues with the wireless dropping out for about a month now. Now tonight everything under the 2.4ghz bands is dead. However I switched it to the 5ghz scale and it works fine. Does the airport extreme N have 2 radios? One for the 2.4ghz scale and one for the 5ghz scale? At this point Im looking to get an exchange, the nearest apple store is about a 2hr drive away. Anybody know my options? Thanks in advance!
Dan
Message was edited by: MoparDan

I just wanted to give it a little bump to see if anyone might be able to help me out. I have now verified that it is the AEBS and not the laptop. Allthough the problem goes away then comes back. Thanks again
Dan

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Hi Again.. !!
There are two basic methods of connection.. wired by ethernet.. much the superior method to be used in every case possible.. (less gremlins!!). Even homeplug (EOP we call them here).. adapters are a better alternative to..
Extend wireless. This is apple terminology for what everyone else calls wireless repeater.
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Now to your specific question.
First question: Can somebody explain, or point me to current articles, the differences between hardwiring (ethernet) the old AE to 1) the TC or 2) my wired Internet router (Verizon). A third option is, I think, is to set up the old AE stand-alone, connecting via wifi only, in a different part of the house.
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AE stand alone is useless to you.. in stand alone you connect to it but have no connection to the rest of your network or the internet.
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If you connect by ethernet you set up roaming.
See http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4260
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Great when working on 802.11n at 5Ghz, BUT...
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Good day to you all.
This might seem like a weird question. I've just rencently purchased my first ever MacBook Pro to enter the Mac family
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Other than downgrading firmware, re-installing software or reinstalling an older OS (Windows style thinking), does anyone have a solution to this problem
I have an Apple Airport Extreme that has recently become useless because it emits or receives no radio signals.
I was running a Wireless Distributions System for a couple of years without any problems. The Extreme was the base connected by Ethernet to a cable modem. I had an Express as a relay station.
One day the Extreme stopped. Naturally, the WDS died. I played with the Extreme for a 1/2 day, but couldn't it too work. I made the Express into my sole Wifi base. Workable but not ideal, I now have dead zones in my house.
I finally found time to spend (waste) another day trying to get the Extreme working again. No luck. Some observations:
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- Not only that, but I could configure the Extreme wirelessly!!
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- I have upgraded the Extreme to 5.7, many posts say go back to 5.5 but only a few claim this actually works.
- I am running Mac OS 10.3.9 on all my various Macs. Apple software updates are current.
This wave of posts reminds me of time when iBooks had a faulty motherboards. This looks like an easier fix, a firmware or software patch.
If anyone has a real solution, as opposed to an experimental one, I would appreciate it. Other posts recommend switching to more reliable third party hardware, I guess it might come to that.
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