Extrude, live paint group and transparency

Hi,
I have a problem for which I have two solutions but I need a combination of them. I want a transparent polygon with a tube inside. I tired it with extruding both shapes, then I have control over transparency but stacking of the polygon and tube fails.
If I create a live paint group of them, then stacking is ok upon extruding but live paint is limited by setting transparency selectively.
I was not able to find a solution and would appreciate any kind of help.
Thank you
monoszok

It makes life easier if you have more complex figures, I simplified my problem with the above images. But I can live without live paint group.

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