Eyedropper sample points changing in CS4

Hola. I upgraded to CS4 a couple of weeks ago and having issuse with the eyedropper sample points
Here's scenario. I select the eyedropper, and shift click to add a samplepoint on a base image, (so I can try and match some numbers via the info pallete). Then I add layer which I want to colour match, and add a curves adjustment.
So far so good. But as soon as I make a clipping mask with the adjustment layer, the sample point information disappears. I need the info to see if I'm matching the numbers - but it's visually confusing to have the adjustment layer effecting everything. What gives?
Also the color sampler information used to remain locked - it now changes depending on what layer I have selected. (I have 'sample all layers' selected in the eyedropper prefs BTW)
I remember reading about some buggy behaviour in CS4 like this - but surely this has been ironed out by now?
Cheers. Dave
2.8 GHz Quad core Xeon. OSX 10.5.8

Your observation also seems to hold for CS5.
But the Samplers disappear on clipping masking only if the Layer to which the Curves Layer is clipped is empty at those points.
I suppose you could temporarily add a Mask to the Adjustment Layer instead of clipping masking.

Similar Messages

Setting Colour Point with curves CS4

Hi, I use CS4 and I want to do some colour correction so I use the colour sampler to select areas I want to change ie Highlights to around 242 but I want to place a sample point for midtones on the RGB channels at the same time, to do this I understand if I place the cursor over a sample point and hold Ctrl + Shift then click it should set points on all channels but when I hover over the sample my colour sample point picker changes to the move tool so I assume I must have hit a button someplace but don't no where! Any help please.
Thanks
Russ

I guess your working with a curves adjustment layer?
You probably still have the color sampler tool selected.
Either select the eyedropper tool or you can use the Auto-Select-Targeted Adjustment Tool.
MTSTUNER

Color range change in CS4 (why change this?)

another "change" in CS4 i quite dont understand why they did.
in CS3 i was about to sample from the toolbox the forgeground color (black-white) as well as change the foreground color (x)
and then sample from then, ensuring that I was sampling the purest white and black from that channel, now it does not work anymore.
I really feel many changes were done to CS4 were done without consulting (testing?) by heavy users (people that spend 8-12 hours a day with application. Maybe I'm wrong, but it is annoying, even the quick keys for cycling through channels make no sense whatsoever, (command 1, to start from the FIRST channel is so INTUITIVE!!!)

The legacy option that you are looking for in Color Range, is still available by unchecking the strangely named "Localized Color Clusters" - this creates much cruder selections but does it more "purely"- it creates the same selections as before, and still uses the foreground colour as a starting point. Actions created in CS3 and earlier will pick up this option.
I really feel many changes were done to CS4 were done without
consulting (testing?) by heavy users (people that spend 8-12 hours a
day with application.
Yes, many of us are getting this impression especially with the last 2 revisions, although this particular feature isn't really one example. There is a lot of new functionality in Color Range under the hood, and the quality of the selections with "color clusters" on is hugely improved.

COLOUR MANAGEMENT IN PHOTOSHOP CS2 AND COLOUR SAMPLE POINTS

I always place colour sample points on my images in order to monitor colour changes as I adjust. When I soft proof (using using Perceptual rendering),I go to the Information pallette and right click on the colour sample points.I then choose Proof option on the basis that this should tell me the colour of the sample points when I print to my chosen printing paper profile.
However,this seems not to work. If I then make a new document (say 100 by 100 pixels) and fill it with the Proof colour,as indicated in the Information pallette as described above,it bears no resemblance to the image that I have soft proofed as seen on my display (Contrtol Y). Hard to explain all this in a message,but can anyone assist?
Grateful,
Roseanne

Good day!
What exactly do you mean?
Regards,
Pfaffenbichler

Sampling Point / Storage Location in Inspection Lot

Hello,
We are looking for sampling point / storage location entry in Quality Certificate while dispatching it to customer, but these two fields are not available in inspection lot. Is there any possibility of making either of these two to enter while creating manual inspection lot so that same can be used as a link for the purpose of dispatch of Quality Certificate with the Sampling point / storage location information to the Customer.
Regards,
Puneet

Hi
Use User Exit
QPL10004 in QA01
This enhancement allows you to display or change additional data on the
screens for the inspection lot transactions.
maintain Sampling point / storage location here
Regards
Sujit

Color Balance Adj Layer Characteristics Changed from CS4- CS5?

Maybe some guru with better connections to Adobe knows the answer to this. (or maybe I just forgot).
I just discovered (and I don't think it is pilot error) that the characteristic behavior of the Color Balance Adjustment Layer is different in CS5 than it was in CS4/CS3. (Much stronger in CS4/CS3).
In addition, there is also an associated behavior that is like a buried legacy mode that is not made visible to the user. Here is what I mean.
If I create an image in CS4 with a single Color Balance Adj Layer, I get an adjusted image.
If I open that same PSD file in CS5, the same image is displayed.
If I use the same base image, yet create the Color Balance Adj Layer from within CS5, the adjusted image is different than the prior two.   So the Color Adjustment Layer acts like it has a hidden legacy mode where the characteristics are one type if created in CS4/CS3 yet a different characteristic if created in CS5.
My mind might be slipping (or my cold has the better of me) because I do not remember this as a documented change and I searched the internet for "What's new in CS5" etc etc. I don't remember anything on other forums about this either.
I guess the good news is, the new characteristic of the Color Balance Adjustment Layer is better behaved with a transfer curve with less clipping for highlights and shadows. Very similar to the better behavior of the change of the Brightness/Contrast Adjustment Layer going from CS2 to CS3.
Here are some comparison images.
This is the Layer Stack Used with Base Image of simple B to W gradient with CB Layer on top with just the highlights pegged to red. This is the exact same Layer Stack for all of the images shown:
Here is the first image. This was created in PS CS4 and displayed from CS4 with the conditions show above:
This is the same image from above that was saved as PSD with profile and them imported to PS CS5 with same profile. There was no change:
This next image is using the same base gradient, yet then creating the CB Layer from within PS CS5 with the same parameters, only the Red pegged for the Highlights:
Does someone have an easy answer for this. Can someone duplicate this and confirm the change from CS4 to CS5. A test by someone else would either confirm I am off base with pilot error or there is something to this.
And yes, all the images were sRGB and kept in sRGB for creation/display. All Screenshot images were the images brought up side by side on the same color managed monitor.   All Edit > Color Settings were identical.
Thanks in advance for any help
John

OK, Chris, but before I perform my act of self flaggelation for the benefit for all and my extra embarrassment, let me add in some useful information about the Color Balance Adj Layer that could be helpful.
I was working with another individual who wanted a better understanding the color balance adj layer, what is was exactly doing, how the shadows, midtones, and highlights interacted, and the differences with preserve luminosity checked or not, and also why the preserve luminosity was so hard to predict (e.g. did not really preserve luminoisty).
Without going into the deails of all of that, the tidbit I will leave as far as penance for my stupid original post above is that the Color Balance Adj Layer with the Preserve Luminosity box checked does a reasonable job or preserving luminoisty for the midtone adjustments yet definitely does not for the shadow and highlight adjustments.
An easy workaround for this is to just set the Color Balance Adj Layer Blend to Color which preserves Luminosity of the image presented from lower layers while maintaining the Color as best it can from using the CB Adj Layer (It holds the Hue and does its best to keep the same Saturation yet the Luminoisty from the presented image from lower layers takes prescendence). This does a much better job at preserving Luminosity than using the checkbox option.    I usually use this approach and keep the Preserve Luminiosity box turned off.
The error that I made was during the fairly involved exchange with this other individual, at some point I accidentally set the Layer Mask for the CB Adj Layer to 50% gray and did not notice that it had changed from the default white. Much further down the line, when this other individual could not exactly recreate my results, he mentioned working in CS3. Thinking this odd, I pulled up CS3, created the image from scratch (without the erroneous mask change to 50% gray) so therefore I duplicated his results and did not realize the error was in my original Layer Stack. To make a long story short, I went and checked for differences in all system settings, profiles, Color Settings, opacity settings, Blend settings, Layer Style settings (and their options) etc, etc and overlooked a change in the Mask gray level.       When I quickly flashed back and forth between the two documents/stack it finally popped out at me. Mea Culpa.

CS5 not recognising CS3 colour sampler points

Neither 32-bit nor 64-bit CS5 (run in Win 7-64bit Ultimate) are recognising (displaying) colour sampler points I created and saved in layered images processed with CS3. These colour sampler points are all displayed quite happily in 32-bit CS4, but they are just not visible in CS5, no matter what I do in terms of turning on or off one or more layers, or selecting (giving the focus to) any one or more layers.
This is pretty annoying because it means that I can't go back and readjust Black, White, Neutral or Skin Colour tones at the same precise locations previously and carefully chosen, sometimes after considerable experimentation, to achive what, at the time, seemed like optimal results.
Anyone else experiencing this anomoly, or know what might be causing it?

Thanks for the response Mylenium.
Found the answer to this "non-problem" (Duh!) myself. The colour sampler points are only visible provided you dont' have certain tools (like the Marquee Tool, and some others) active. All is well afterall and my CS3-made colour sampler points are, and have always been, visible in CS5.
Message was edited by: Andrew_Hart

Sample point of Healing Brush tool in CS5

Hi.
In my previous version of PS (CS2) when using the Healing Brush tool the sample point remained in the same place after alt-clicking - irrelevant of where I moved around the image - this is great for spotting large areas of similiar colours as you know the sample area is clean.
With CS5, the sample spot seems to move with the mouse - as in, it always stays the same distance from the mouse as you move around.
Is there a setting I can change that will make it work similar to CS2?
Thanks

Uncheck aligned and see if that helps.
MTSTUNER

Setting clone/healing sample points with a script.

Is it possible to set a clone and/or healing sample point with a script? I prefer to clone and heal onto a blank layer so having a way to set the sample point on another layer using a script would save a lot of time. Otherwise I have to go back and forth between the layers.
I can't always use the "Current and below" setting due to the different blend modes on some layers. It would also be difficult to hide all other layers while doing this since I can't really see the overall effect it has on the image.
What I'd ideally want to do is keep the blank clone layer active and when I set the sample point, set it from the layer below the currently active layer.
More info: The blank cloning layers are set as a Clipping Mask for the original. I'm using CS4.
Thank you.

Sorry, there are very few tools that use the mouse that can be scripted. I have never found a way to script the stamp/healing tools.

Has maximum size for documents changed in CS4

In InDesign CS2 and CS3 maximum file size is 5486 mm.
Can anyone tell me if it has changed in CS4?

I am in the middle of a job with quite large jobs between 10 - 16 metres.
As we just ordered CS4 I wondered if it would be easier using CS4.
But no ... Thank you for testing.

Lightroom 5 Help says that to change the size of filmstrip thumbnails: "Place pointer over top edge of filmstrip; when pointer changes to doublearrow, drag the filmstrip edge up or down." However I never get a double arrow. Instead I get a hand icon tha

Lightroom 5 Help says that to change the size of filmstrip thumbnails: "Place pointer over top edge of filmstrip; when pointer changes to doublearrow, drag the filmstrip edge up or down." However I never get a double arrow. Instead I get a hand icon that allows me to drag the thumbnails to right or left. How can I change the filmstrip thumbnail size?

It works for me. Are you sure you are hovering in the right spot? It's the dividing line between the filmstrip and the Toolbar.

Flex sampling frequency changes when I use it with apple loops

Flex sampling frequency changes when I use it with apple loops in a 24 bit 88.2 project

sorry !
Flex changes sampling frequency when I use it with apple loops in a 24 bit 88.2 project

Why does my mouse pointer change from a hand to a downward facing arrow sometimes?

why does my mouse pointer change from a hand to a downward facing arrow sometimes?

the-edmeister, you are a genious. I went to "view" then "toolbars" and de-selected "yahoo toolbar" and then moved the curser over my firefox page and it now works completely including the problem area (the top 3 cm of each screen). Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You have no idea how good I feel know on this otherwise cold, windy and rainy day.

Problem with Color Sampler Points

I'm using PSCS4 on a Mac Pro, and recently upgraded to Snow Leopard 10.6.3 from Leopard 10.5.8.
I regularly use color sampler points in Photoshop when adjusting curves. I seem to be having problems getting a sampler point to show up in the info palette when shift-clicking with the eye-dropper tool, or directly using the color sampler tool. I've also tried shift-clicking from within the Threshold command, but the points I click just don't seem to take a sample and show up. I never had this problem before. I'm bringing RAW, sRGB and ARGB digital images into PS from Bridge, and have tried 8 and 16 bit.
After trying for awhile, sometimes it just suddenly starts working again. For instance, I was writing this post after not being able to get PS to take samples. Then I went back and forth between the internet and PS, and it started working all of a sudden. Very odd.
Anyone else seeing this? Am I doing something wrong? Any workarounds?
Thanks, Lou

Thanks, Mark. You may be right, and I will try it.
I have my workspace setup saved, but I presume it is lumped in with all the other preferences. Is there a way to "Export" my saved workspace setup from Photoshop, so after I trash my preferences, I can reimport at least my workspace? I didn't see the ability to do that, but it may be hiding somewhere. I like my current dual monitor setup and prefer not to have to 'redo' it from scratch.
Thanks,
Lou

Point Changer sometimes don't generate IDoc MATMAS

Hello,
I have activated Point Changer for MATMAS and when I change material sometimes the IDoc is generated and sometimes is not.
In the table BDCP2 I show the change but PROCESS field is not X(so hasn't be processed). That also happens when I create a Material.
Could it be because in some materials I don't have, Plant, Sales organization, division?
If I run transaction BD40 for the group of materials, all these IDocs are generated. I check all the filters but I didn't see any. I need all the IDocs are generated always.
Any idea how?
Thank you

Hi,
not for all fields change pointer is activated. Go to se11 for MARA or other material relevant table which contains the fields you are looking for. Double click on data elements and go to tab further characteristic. The flag Change Document should be set for the field.

Eyedropper sample points changing in CS4

Similar Messages

Maybe you are looking for