Eyedropper tool with masks in Illustrator CS4

When I sample a colour from a masked object in Illustrator CS4 it doesn't sample the colour correctly. It looks like it's doing it optically rather than using the exact colour breakdown I have assigned the colour. It doesn't even look like the same colour when I colour another object. It will often be slightly darker. Does anyone know if this is a bug or if there is some other reason it is happening. Never happened in any of the other versions.

Yupp, as Scott said. Ugly annoyance.
Mylenium

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Guys ,i have encountered a problem with my adobe illustrator cs4

i am using illustrator cs4.i have a problem with type along the path feature.i have made some changes to it which i dont remember.so now the text is appearing one below the other rather tha appearing one after the other.how do i reset the settings.plz help!!!!

Hi teja1995,
I suspect that you need to adjust the in and out points of the text on the path. Try watching this tutorial, "Putting type on a path," in the Illustrator CC Creative Cloud Learn show to learn how to do this successfully.
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Hi!
I truly hope you can help me with this because I really can't find the answer myself.
I need to save eps-versions of the files I make in the Illustrator.
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Heh ... I happened to write a function for exactly this just the other day. Not sure how this goes exactly with visible vs geometric bounds. Depending on exactly what you need, it might be problematic.
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Resize method with Javascript in Illustrator CS4

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Great. Grouping was exactly what I needed to do. This works perfectly now (unless there are a few clipping masks already in the image, then it gets a little weird). Here's what I ended up with:
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theLayer.move(docRef, ElementPlacement.PLACEATBEGINNING );
var theGroup = docRef.groupItems.add();
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theGroup.move(theLayer, ElementPlacement.PLACEATBEGINNING );
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Message was edited by: Mike Wickham

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About cursor resource in illustrator CS4 SDK

How to add cursor resource in CS4 ?
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resource 'CURS' (kMarkedObjectsCursorID, locked, preload) {
$"80 00 C0 00"
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Hi,
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3. I past the result in TextEdit.
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Here is my little application to convert a text in TextEdit to the gool format.
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Fontproblems and fontcaches in Illustrator CS4 and CS5

Hello all,
I've been having a serious and severe problem using Ilustrator and fonts.
As this is a very complex problem to explain, I'll try to make it easy to understand.
First I'll tell you the specifications and software used:
Imac 27 inch running MAC OS X 10.6.7 with follow software:
Illustrator CS4 + Illustrator CS5, both installed
Fontreserve (running a central server and macs connect through a MAC-client) http://www.extensis.com/en/support/font-reserve.jsp
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We recently ran in a big issue concerning fonts within Illustrator.
I'll try to explain what the problem really is ...
So normally we boot up Illustrator and we activate our fonts in fontreserve.
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After a restart, I only start Illustrator. So our client fontreserve stays closed.
I opened the job I worked on before the restart and Illustrator opens the document and loads the fonts.
You read it right, Illustrator does find all the fonts which, before the restart, were deactivated.
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So I started to investigate and tried a couple of things.
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Sadly he still did find the fonts.
3) I used "Tweak Freak" to clear my fontcaches. I also searched for "AdobeFnt" to clean out the cache from Adobe itself.
This did not work either.
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It would be nice to run a script on shutdown te delete all possible fontcaches.
So after spending a couple of hours fixing this problem, it seems that I still don't quite understand where the problem lies.
I'm hoping you can.
As this is an urgent matter, I hope to get an answer or support as soon as possible.
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It was very exciting. I plunked down my $500 and got one of those big
green slip cases with Botticelli's "Venus" smiling benignly back at
me. The package included a VHS video of John Warnock himself demoing
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Hi everyone, it's the first time I post here...
I've some problems with the adobe illustrator cs4 version..i've just download the trial version, I'm trying to import a dwg file, all made with closed polyline...
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If you intend to zoom in or pan on your graphic, you might make it say, twice the size of your FCP sequence's pixel dimensions.
If it is static, paste it into the appropriate video template at the size you require.
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Check your graphics driver configuration and install a new one/ different one. Also check your color profiles, should you be using any. Since sampling is done at the preview level, there may simply be an issue here where it sometimes cannot correctly "see" what's beneath. Also of course look for invisible layers or visible layers with seemingly nothing on them. Some of them may have appearances applied that would "block" everything. Sometimes a drop shadow on a stray line or point can have the weirdest effects... Other than that I'm not aware of standing issues with this, but anything is possible.
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Illustrator CS4 makes invisible open paths with the 3D tools. We need a close paths feature.

Illustrator CS4 (mine is for Windows) is faulty in the 3D effect tools because of the invisible open paths it creates upon saving as EPS (or expanding the appearance). This is very dissapointing. My only hope of correcting this that is a free plugin and script that may or not be created by Graffix. Adobe probably can do this. : (
I also had this problem in CS.

Illustrator CS4 (mine is for Windows) is faulty in the 3D effect tools because of the invisible open paths it creates upon saving as EPS (or expanding the appearance). This is very dissapointing. My only hope of correcting this that is a free plugin and script that may or not be created by Graffix. Adobe probably can do this. : (
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I've seen a few older posts regarding CS4's bug with applying a clipping mask to any image that is somewhat complex, but have yet to find an answer.
The problem is, any time a clipping mask is applied to a semi-complex shape, Illustrator CS4 slows almost to a halt. We're talking 10 minutes of the beach ball to apply the mask and then another few minutes to do anything else with the document. This is unacceptable. My system is loaded (Dual 1.8 GHz G5, 1.25 GB of memory). The exact same files process fine in CS3. Many of our other designers are running iMacs and cannot work on the files at all using CS4. There has to be an answer to this problem.
Prefs have been deleted, Document Raster Effects has been lowered. Any other suggestions?
Your help is greatly appreciated.

My system is loaded (Dual 1.8 GHz G5, 1.25 GB of memory).
Uhm.. that's "loaded"? That's like the slowest G5 made with almost the minimum amount of RAM.
But.. I agree with you. Clipping masks seems to drastically slow CS4 down. Even if an object isn't really complex, but included many objects. I'm running a much faster system than you are and I have to wait around 3 to 10 seconds after any operation for some files. It's annoying. So far, I've not found any solution other than to expand and clip the masks.

Why does Illustrator CS4 save pdfs with clipping paths and make rasters of gradient areas

I am on a IMAC and upgraded to 10.6.8 Jan 2014. I am using CS4 Illustrator to create with. When i save my work as a pdf then reopen the pdf in Ill to make changes, the whole page has:
A.) Multiple clipping paths around it
B.) Most text has now become outlined. Not editable anymore.
C.) Gradient areas have multiple clipping paths of the single gradient area
D.) The gradient areas now become rasterized.
This is very frustrating as now all of my marketing files, some 300+, are worthless. I don't know where to look anymore to find the problem.
Please help.
Thank you very much

John,
I have the presets as you have shown. I had been editing the supplied items as you suggested. Then figured i should ask the questions of those who are better than I.
But still a bit confused as to why the new save places clipping paths around the document.
Thank you John and Monika for your help.
why does Illustrator CS4 save pdfs with clipping paths and make rasters of gradient areas
created by John Mensinger in Illustrator - View the full discussion
I do a save as "pdf" in the format pull down tab. I save to a folder on the hard drive. Where is the "Illustrator editability" check box? I presumed it is in Acrobat some where
but i seem to be lost.
It is in Illustrator's Save Adobe PDF dialog, which pops up before the saved file is written.
https://forums.adobe.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-6439399-644928/450-397/Untitl ed-1.jpg
Sorry i didn't mention this, but this seems to have occurred when using images and text from provided pdfs.
That's a critical fact. If you didn't do the original save, the above is moot, and it's too late to exercise any control over the save process. Someone else failed to save for editability. The only thing you can do is clean up/repair the content, (release clipping masks, rebuild rasterized elements, expand objects, etc.), and save correctly as AI. Then, if necessary, re-save as PDF with the correct settings.
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