Face recognition is not recognizing faces

i just rebuilt my iphoto library today with a mac tech and now my face recognition isn't recognizing faces. any idea what's up?

I feel duped, I bought this new I-Life version specifically for the Faces feature and after giving it 5 good matches for my daughter it spent all night and came up matching virtually every face male or female,even some sculpture and a watch face along with leopards and a few other african animals. Come on, this is pathetic!!!!!!! Can I get a refund?
I had five other family members identified and it listed them as matches for my daughter too....I would have to give up my computer for the rest of the year for it to get a few matches for each.

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BUG: Face recognition data not saved to images.

i have the option to automatically save XMP data into the images activated.
so all keywords and metadata changes are not only saved to the catalog but also into my DNG and TIFF images.
now this works fine for everything except the new face recognition data.
i mean the areas (rectangles) where the faces are.
i guess the problem is that the images already contain the keywords (names) of the persons in the images.
what i did was using the rectangles to identify the persons in the images. drawing rectangles around their faces and name them.
this info about the rectangle positions is NOT automatically stored in the image files. not after hours of letting LR run idle.
this info is only stored when i manually save (CTRL+S) the images or do something other to the metadata (like adding NEW keywords to it).
so in short: just adding the face region data (the rectangles) will not trigger the automatic XMP save function when the name keyword was already asigned as keyword to the image.
that´s very bad and must considered a bug in my opinion..
i don´t like to rely on the LR catalog only. it´s unsave even with backups.
i want that the metadata info is stored in the images.
also when i give away my images i want that the metadata is in the images.
that´s why "automatically save XMP" is always active and very important for me.

I don't have any info but repost your original info at this site. Supposedly Adobe reads this and it should not get lost in the clutter I have posted a few bugs there and they were acknowledged but not fixed but Adobe seems to be pretty good at fixing potential data loss bugs/problems which I consider this to be if it is working as you describe.
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Rebuild Faces recognition database without losing Face associations

Does anybody know a safe way to rebuild a Faces recognition database without:
1) disturbing already associated faces / pictures
2) finding new faces
I've already done a huge amount of manual editing and auto-recognition on my 40K photo database and have culled many of the "don't care" faces and hand-identified literally thousands of faces taht reconitions didn't identify. Unfortunately the recognition database appears to be corrupted, manifiesting itself in two ways:
1) Count of suggested recognized faces doesn't match the number iPhoto claims to be there, plus several of the "suggestions" shown have already been previously Confirmed.
2) Crashes that seem to be related to memory leaks - iPhoto use of memory piles up until it rolls over 1.7G on a machine with 4GB RAM, and now over 3.8GB on a machine with 8GB RAM, then crashes.
I'm hoping there is a way to rebuild recognition database based on tens of thousands meticulously identified, and seemingly accurate (no corruption), face associations. Thoughts ?

Thanks Terence,
Was hoping for some miracle, but your thoughts make sense. I'm actually pursuing a 3-fold recovery strategy and will document what works best.
1) Keep going with the current database despite issues. So far, recognition database corruption seems limited to particular faces that have huge numbers of the same person (3-7K), not smaller lists. And I don't appear to be getting cross corruption where I label a person, then they come back with a different name. Only the suggestion lists appear to have problems, and again, only for a few select people. I also upgraded to 8G of memory (vs. 4G) which seems to give me more running room to avoid/postpone crashes from memory leaks. iPhoto databases is still incredibly valuable given all the hand work. When it comes time to add faces I can still get recognition to work more quickly and without weirdness via two methods:
* Start a new Faces entry, with a slightly different name, for a person in one of the "oversized/corrupted" Face entries. Gather up enough faces manually to support reconition, then run recognition for the new entry. Once you have collected/gleened as many faces as one can, merge the entry into the existing, ovesized Face entry.
* and bring any new photos/events in via iPhoto Manager from a clean iPhoto database (see next). Faces come over from the clean database.
2) Develop a new recognition database. I have two physically different iPhoto databases (both Time Machined) that I keep on separate drives. I keep them synced via iPhoto Manager. I recently removed all the "faces" database files from the "shadow iPhoto database" and have begun rebuilding. I now use that as my master for adding/importing new photos and runnign Faces (though Photostream makes that a little trickier). When new events are the way I like, I copy over to the old "corrupt" database using iPhoto manager. Working nicely, but I'm now begining to realize the scope of the naming I did in the "corrupt" database - hundreds of hours to get back to where I am with corrupt database.
3) I'm also trying Picasa recognition on an "in-place" iPhoto database. Of course, there is no way to transfer back to iPhoto, but a fun experiment in recognition nonetheless. Picasa's recognition is similar in concept but works substantially differently than iPhoto. A few things I've noticed:
- Picasa does a kind of clustering of very simialr faces that makes it very fast in some recognition steps. instead of labeling one photo, you label clusters.
- Picasa operates regularly on the whole list of unknown photos, instead of focusing in on recognizing just one person at a time, so one can very quickly wade through confirmation of many people.
- Picasa seems less sensitive to one or two "wrong" persons in a long list of recognized faces vs. iPhoto. Even one wrong photo amonst hundreds appears to steer the iPhoto reconition to pick up many of the wrong person for the suggestion list, while Picasa appears more immune (I would love a utility to weed out a few offending, wrong faces in an already recognized database).
- At the same time, iPhoto appears to go to greater depth in finding all images of a select person when it concentrates on that person.
- Ultimately, both recognizers seem to suffer from "fatigue" and randomness - they get to a poitn where they can recognize now more, until some new random event comes along that frees up or catalyzes additional recognition.
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People and Face Recognition tags not showing up under People page after converting to PSE11

Hi Forum
Upgrade from PSE 10 to PSE 11
Beware, having just spent over 3 hours using the face tagging feature in Elements 11 (because it does not use people tags from earlier versions to populate the new People Tab). I can only say the result was less than useless. I now have over 1200 images tagged with the wrong people and multiple wrong people at that. And worse still the person that should have been tagged is not there at all!
I noticed that during the tagging process the image displayed to provide a name for is not the image when selecting full screen view - it actually displays another image. So my guess is it is not actually tagging the face you see but applying the tag to the image it actually thinks it is.
Therefore the result is utter garbage.... What a waste of time and effort. Not happy at all. When will Adobe release working software, hard lesson learned here.
Regards
David
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Hi Andaleeb
Yes this is definately frustrating - what should be a simple process during the upgrade from 10 to 11 is a painful manual task to correct afterwards.
Okay I restored the catalogue which contained the original people tags. But because they were called named 'Family' they are not treated as People in People Tab. So I changed the name Family to People and then yes the images started to appear in the People Tab. But there are groups of people such as my wife and sons who are not imported into the People Tab because (I think) they are a sub level below me. So are ignored in People import process. Viewing images in Media View shows they are marked with a 'Group' icon but still these do not show up in People - Groups. The tags are shown when clicking 'Groups' but when selecting one shows the message 'no people exist in this group'. So how do i get them in? I can't find a way of changing the person concerned to have a non group tag like the other images that were recognised as people. I hope this makes sense.
Help appreciated.
Regards
David

Iphoto face recognition confirmation not working

I have an interesting issue with iPhoto. I have about 20 Faces set up and when I open several, not all, it tells me that I have a certian number of "additional photo's" that the person may be in. When I confirm the additional faces the same number comes right back with the exact same faces each time. I can keep confirming them but they just continue to come back and need to be done again. Also, the number it is saying does not match the number of photo's I need to confirm.
I only have one iPhoto library. I have tried run the detect missing faces routine but that did not fix the issue. I am not sure what to try next.
I have iPhoto '11 and up to date with all software updates.
Thanks...Lenny

Let's start with the crashing, as you need to fix that first.
Option 1
Back Up and try rebuild the library: hold down the command and option (or alt) keys while launching iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild. Choose to Repair Database. If that doesn't help, then try again, this time using Rebuild Database.
If that fails:
Option 2
Download iPhoto Library Manager and use its rebuild function. (In Library Manager it's the FIle -> Rebuild command)
This will create an entirely new library. It will then copy (or try to) your photos and all the associated metadata and versions to this new Library, and arrange it as close as it can to what you had in the damaged Library. It does this based on information it finds in the iPhoto sharing mechanism - but that means that things not shared won't be there, so no slideshows, books or calendars, for instance - but it should get all your events, albums and keywords, faces and places back.
Because this process creates an entirely new library and leaves your old one untouched, it is non-destructive, and if you're not happy with the results you can simply return to your old one.
As for the Faces issue. I'm not sure what the precise issue is as you supply rather a lot of unnecessary comment, and so it's hard to figure out what the problem is. So fwiw, here's a couple of comments:
1. There's no dragging only naming. There's no Folder.
2. To reject mutiple suggestions: hold down the alt key and drag across the thumbnails.
Regards
TD

IPhoto not recognizing faces from iPhone 4S

I'm running the latest update, and using photostream to import from a new iphone. for some reason, iPhoto isn;t detecting faces, and wont let me add any in the pics from thenew phone. Anybody know what's up with that?

This just started happening 10 or so days ago.
and
i've been trying to get help from apple on this forever
So, 10 days is forever now?
Have you tried the iPhoto forum?
Regards
TD

Auto analyzer/Face Recognition does not stop in PSE9

Running a C2D 2.66 GHz, Vista 32 4 GB RAM, PSE9.0.
I am desperately trying to turn off those annoying boxes that pop up in Organizer asking "who is this?". Under preferences, all of the following are unchecked:
-People Recognition
-Auto analyzer options
- I have even made sure that Run Analyzer on Startup and Run analyzer only when system idle are also unchecked.
I have shut down the software and rebooted my system, but every time I come back to the PSE Organizer, it is still running, Anything I can do? I was able to turn this off in V8, but have so far been unsuccessful in V9. Any thoughts?

I don't feel that smart right now... I was too bust turning off preferences to note that there was something in the "View" menu. Thanks for your help!

Face time will not work, face time will not work

I just purchased an Apple computer and I am not receiving the verification e-mail from Apple to active Face Time.

• If you have not already tried it, restart your Mac and test again.
• If the trouble continues, Apple's http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2090
suggestions may help you. The proper "reset" suggested there for your
particular Mac model or changing to a new user may restore normal function.
(Over time, Apple has changed the built-in camera's name on newer Macs from "iSight" to "FaceTime" and then to "FaceTime HD." Regardless of the name of your Mac's built-in camera, the same info and troubleshooting applies.)
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Qosmio F750-03W - face recognition not start and video freezes

I apologize for my English.
Nvidia 3D testing program wheel shots. The face recognition does not start.
If on, the image activator 3D is disturbed and I do not see the image in 3D.
If I try the Games 3D compatible (Left4Dead) activates the 3D in 1080p but the game is jerky as the test image 3D not activate the face recognition.
3D play is to see in 2D photos into 3D but how do I vadere photos in 3D?
If active 3D activator the image quality is poor.
I did set both normal and advanced, but the videos have gost effects especially on the sides.

Hi
It looks your Qosmio F750-03W PQF75C-03W001 is an Toshiba Canadian model as I found this here:
http://support.toshiba.ca/support/isg/center/en/index.asp?s1=Notebook&s2=Qosmio&s3=F750&s4=PQF75C-03W001
First of all you should update the BIOS to the latest version (at this time it seems that BIOS 2.0 is the latest one).
Also update the
nVidia Display Driver version 8.17.12.9039
Super-D IC Driver version 1.0.1613.809
Toshiba Blu-ray Disc Player version 1.0.1.299
as mentioned here http://support.toshiba.ca/support/isg/tsb/en/view.asp?docid=TSB001633
if 3D stereo effects are not ok use the X-tune to calibrate this.
You are recommended to use this utility to optimize the 3D stereo effects when using the Glasses-Free 3D function for the first time or being unsatisfied with the 3D effects.
To operate the X-Tune utility, follow the steps as described below:
1. Select the language and optimization mode, and then click OK. There are three optimization modes: Primary, Advanced and Professional. You can choose one based on your own experience.
2. Sitting about 60cm away from your computer, click Start to continue.
3. Follow the on-screen instructions on each step.
4. Use the left or right arrow key on the keyboard to adjust the effect. When you are satisfied with the effect, click Enter and then an information window will appear on the screen. Press the ESC key on the keyboard to cancel the optimization procedure.
5. Click Finish to close the X-Tune utility.
You said your face recognition does not work properly so uninstall this software. Do this also with the webcam driver/software. After both tools has been uninstalled, clean registry using CCleaner and install both tools again using the newest version.
Reboot and start the X-Tune again to calibrate the 3D effects.
In the Toshiba doc (link posted above) you can find this notice:
1. Set [Screen resolution] to 1920x1080. Glasses free 3D mode is not enabled except in 1920x1080 mode.
2. Depending on game, it does not work with glasses free 3D mode and work with 2D mode.
3. Depending on game, it is not displayed correctly with stereoscopic 3D mode
4. Game is not displayed with glasses free 3D mode when running TOSHIBA Blu-ray Disc Player with glasses free 3D mode
or running TOSHIBA Web Camera application.
5. The performance of the game will be decreased when playing game with glasses free 3D mode. If the performance of the game is decreased dramatically, please decrease the quality of image of the game using settings
of the game. If the performance of the game is still not enough, please disable glasses free 3D mode by unchecking [Enable stereoscopic 3D] at NVIDIA Control Panel.
6. Small fonts in the games may be difficult to read with glasses free 3D mode. At that time, please push 3D button of PC and disable glasses free 3D mode temporarily. Glasses free 3D mode is enabled if you push 3D button again
7. The response of the game may delay with glasses free 3D mode enabled. If you feel it and can not enjoy the game, please disable glasses free 3D mode by unchecking [Enable stereoscopic 3D] at NVIDIA Control Panel.
8. Glasses free 3D mode can be disabled temporarily by pressing 3D button of PC but it may be enabled while playing game. At that time, please push 3D button and disable it again.
9. When [Enable stereoscopic 3D] in NVIDIA Control Panel is unchecked, game will start with 2D mode. At this time, glasses free 3D mode is not enabled even if you pressed 3D button of PC while playing the game.
10. Glasses free 3D mode may be enabled except TOSHIBA Blu-ray Disc Player and games. At this time, please disable glasses free 3D mode by unchecking [Enable stereoscopic 3D] at NVIDIA Control Panel.
11. The color of video may be different from original when playing video with full screen mode on RGB and non 3D TV if [Enable stereoscopic 3D] is checked. At this time, please disable glasses free 3D mode by unchecking [Enable stereoscopic 3D] at NVIDIA Control Panel.
Hope this helps.

Is there workaround for Face Recognition Failure as # of images grows??

The face recognition features that identified faces to existing tags stopped working after
I had created tagged about 300 images within a catalog containing thousands of images. In searching the internet, I have discovered that other have had similar problems.
When I began using the face recognition feature, when I clicked "Find more items with ..." the program return additional pictures in
the "Unconfirmed" tab. It no longer does so, despite the being numerous appropriate matches.
Also, the auto-fill feature no longer functions. (This referenced the names of the faced identifed) I am also never getting teasers suggesting names, only "who is this."
http://forums.adobe.com/message/2411842 appears to describe the same problems I have been experiencing.

I've just totally given up on face recognition in PSE8. After the recognition system collapsed for one person, it began to collapse for other people who appeared hundreds of times in my photos, and it just became easier and quicker to make "people" tags for them myself, bypassing the face recognition.
In each case the failure was sudden and total, not preceded by an gradual increase in false identifications. One minute it was recognizing my 5-year old granddaughter about 80% of the time, and then suddenly it never recognized her again. It didn't propose her name among the alternate choices offered; instead it proposed 50-year-old men and other totally unlikely candidates. After failing with her, it also began failing with other people who appeared frequently in the photos.
By the way, Picasa 3 went through all the same photos, recognizing them with a high degree of accuracy to the end.
The other annoying problems were that PSE8 kept asking me to identify people I had already told it to ignore, and that it often asked me to identify things that didn't in the slightest even resemble faces, especially hands, but also things such as clouds or even a gingham tablecloth.
I also found that if I had several similar group photos, it would ask me to identify all the people in the group on one of the photos, but then fail to apply tags to the other group photos of the same people. If I exited PSE8 and reentered, it would then proceed to identify faces in the remaining photos. This happened multiple times, and I always checked to make sure I wasn't selecting a subset of the photos.
The face recognition failure is just one of the many problems that have me frustrated with the Organizer. This thing needs a lot of work and it's a big resource hog. In fact, I'm thinking of abandoning the Organizer altogether and just using the editor. It's really a shame. I'm sure that the Organizer is the only interface a lot of PSE8 users know, and it shouldn't have been allowed to go on the market in this state.

Re: Face recognition software and Win XP

Hello.
Is there any software for face recognition but not for Windows Vista?
I am about to change my system to XP and I would like to use this utility.

Sorry but I do not use such software. To be honest I do not like it. I protect my notebook with password and it is enough for me. Lets see if someone else can recommend some good working software.
Good luck!

Face Recognition for HP Client Security

Hi,
My friend have a laptop with HP Client Security installed. Recently, he download newer version (and may it's lastest ver) but when he install HP Client Security, he must remove Face Recognition first. Because Face Recognition not work with HP Client Security ver 8.3.3.1786.
So we have a newer version of Face Recognition for HP Client Security 8.3.3 ?

Hi,
My friend have a laptop with HP Client Security installed. Recently, he download newer version (and may it's lastest ver) but when he install HP Client Security, he must remove Face Recognition first. Because Face Recognition not work with HP Client Security ver 8.3.3.1786.
So we have a newer version of Face Recognition for HP Client Security 8.3.3 ?

I am the only one who wants face recognition in LR ?

first... i know where to request features and that this is not the right place.
the feature was requested a long time ago in this forum and also at the adobe feature suggestion website.
i really hoped that with LR 4 we will see face recognition.
and i think it´s a feature many LR user would love to see in lightroom... right?
i have tested a few programs and their face recognition a while ago.
picasa was a bit buggy but the actual face recognition and tagging capability is good. IDImager face recognition was not that accurate.
other apps i have tested... well not worth to mention.
i still found picase and idimage usefull and while face recognition was not perfect .... it was a great help.
please support this feature request if you like by voting here:
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/face_recognition_in_lightroom
THX!

This seems to be a heated topic wherever it's brought up. Let me start by saying that I work in the software industry and totally understand the tradeoffs you have to make sometimes. You don't have infinite resources...ever. And I understand the sensitivity in this case because for folks who have used LR for a long time and are dependent on it to get their job done, they clearly want investment in features that they know they will use. If you have used Lightroom for a while and have an established workflow, I can totally understand why face recognition would be useless. And if it's useless, it's logical that you'd want investment in something that was...well...useful.
I, however, agree with the poster and believe that facial recognition is a pretty important feature for Lightroom.
I'd like to offer two perspectives.
The first is my personal perspective. I would consider myself a casual user. I'm a family guy. I've got about 65k photos in my collection and they are all friends/family. My organization scheme has been through 3-4 computers and multiple backup systems over the years. It has been through a variety of different tools from some homegrown things to native Windows tools to Picasa. Bottom line, I have a real mess. Many duplicates due to funny sync strategies but being paranoid about losing photos. Multiple folders because my wife is not so computer savvy and often makes multiple copies. Very little organization. We have a real mess. I've known it for a while and have spent several months trying to find the right solution. Picasa didn't scale for us. IDImager was promising but they are going through some regrowth as they try to adapt to the Mac user community where it was only previously for Windows. Lightroom was the only product I found that could come close to meeting all of my needs. So now I have it in place. I have all of my pictures imported into the catalog. But I need to start tagging/organizing. I want facial recognition to get me started...having to go through 65,000 and manually type keywords for each one is unreasonable. For new photos I import I can do it piecemeal...no problem, and no facial regonition required. Until I can get the existing photos into a searchable/maintainable state, however, I can't take full advantage of Lightroom. While it may not be forever useful, it's crticial to new users getting started with the product.
The second is an industry perspective. Adobe has clearly branded itself as the leader in image editing technology. Heck, "photoshop" is now used as a verb in the average household for people who have never even used the product! That's awesome marketing. That's awesome brand presence. You don't get to be a leader by saying yes to everything. You have to selectively say no. But in cases where you are falling behind from a technology perspective and leaving an obvious hole in your portfolio (especially while potential competition is buying up companies/IP to compete).
In my opinion, the "personal DAM" market is underserved today. The digital age is causing even casual users to outgrow products like Picasa. People are looking for something new. While Lightroom is probably overkill for most of them (me included), it's one of the few products on the market that has a large support community and actually does have enough features to support all of the needs of the home. While more expensive than most of the other home products, it's not out of reach even for the casual user. Adobe has the potential to grow market share (actually, to even grow the market) if they target those needs and improve their "on ramp" for new users. Besides face recognition, this is probably 80%+ a marketing issue and not one requiring product features.

Why does Face Recognition drop confirmed faces

I guess Face Recognition is not ready for prime time. Sometimes after a face has been confirmed, it will just disappear.

Hey nonnalg,
Thanks for the question. I understand that you are experiencing issues with AirPrint, specifically not being able to find the printer after a short amount of time. The following resource may provide a solution:
About AirPrint - Apple Support
http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311
For best results
Make sure your software is up to date. For iOS, verify that your device is using the latest version of iOS available and that the app you're printing from is up to date. For OS X, Use Software Update to update OS X and apps you've purchased from the Mac App Store.
AirPrint printers connected to the USB port of an Apple AirPort Base Station or AirPort Time Capsule are not supported with AirPrint. Connect your AirPrint printer to your network using Wi-Fi, or connect it to a LAN port on your AirPort device using Ethernet.
Make sure that your AirPrint printer is connected to your network before attempting to print. Some AirPrint printers can take several minutes to join a network after being turned on.
If you're unable to print
Check these things if you are unable to print, or if you see the message "No AirPrint Printers Found."
Make sure your printer has paper, and enough ink or toner installed.
Make sure your printer is connected to the same Wi-Fi network as your iOS device.
Make sure your printer has power and is turned on. Try turning your printer off and then back on again to see if it resolves your issue.
Check to see if your printer has any error lights or indicators displayed on the printer's control panel. Check the documentation that came with your printer to clear any errors displayed.
Check with your printer's manufacturer to see if any firmware updates are available for your printer. Check your printer's documentation or contact the printer vendor for more information. A firmware update may be available, even if you just bought your printer.
Thanks,
Matt M.

Good example of face recognition not working

I started the automatic face recognition process through my old family photos. As it happened, I had a photo of 35 passport type pics of myself (all the same pic) that I had used for a country that needed numerous permits.
Remember....these shots of me are EXACTLY the same.
It has now asked me no less than 12 times if this picture is me as it randomly goes through photos. If I said that this photo was me the first time, and the second, and the third...etc.....how can it not recognize the exact same photos as me also?
There has to be a problem here.

report to Apple - iPhoto menu ==> provide iPhoto feedback
LN

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