Faces Has More Power in Aperture vs. iPhoto

I came across this on Apple's site for Aperture:
The popular Faces feature in iPhoto comes to Aperture 3, where it has even more power.
What added power does Aperture bring that iPhoto does not?

Well ... does the Apple site say anything?
Aperture takes Faces further.
Aperture 3 expands on the power of Faces in iPhoto. Not only can you view the people you name across the entire library, you can now see them in individual projects. And the new Show Unnamed Faces pane displays all the detected-but-not-yet-named faces in a project to help you easily add names
I don't use iPhoto, so I can't comment on whether this has changed in the interim for iPhoto.

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