Failed to upgrade to Leopard Help!

Failed to upgrade to Leopard from a 10.4.11 to 10.5.2
Okay, unless there are different kinds of Leopard other then Single and family pack, however i don't think that would matter? Or software that comes for the laptop is different to Desktop? My uncle got me a Mac Pro 2.66 last year. He got himself a Mac-Book Pro with the new Leopard. He gave me his Leopard software to upgrade mine. I backed everything up in an external HD. Now that i try to install to the main internal HD and it fails and it tells me "software can't be installed on this computer" Now what? ::: dies ::: Any help would be very appreciated
Thank you!

Rodney's right. It won't install and it is a violation of the license agreement. You need to purchase the retail install disc
-mj

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