Failed upgrade to Airport Extreme N from Airport Extreme G

Hi,
I hope that someone can help.
I have got a new AEn base (firmware 7.2.1). I seem unable to get an IP address using DHCP from the cable modem - always get a self-assigned IP address in the 10.0.1 range. My previous set up used a AirportExpress (54Mbps g) with the ip address being picked up in identical way. With the new model the following stay blank: IP Address, and Router Address. If I disconnect the old AEg, and use the same settings manually I still cannot connect. Reconnecting old BS reconnects immediately.
Any help would be appreciated.

sliderski wrote:
I have got a new AEn base (firmware 7.2.1). I seem unable to get an IP address using DHCP from the cable modem
Often a cable modem needs to be blanked before you can associate a new device/router/base station with it.
Power down the cable modem.
Wait 30 minutes (go and have a cup of tea or something).
Connect the cable modem to the WAN port of the Airport Extreme Base Station (AEBS).
Switch on the cable modem.
Switch on the AEBS.
Wait five minutes.
Switch on the Mac.
Use the Airport Utility in the Utilities folder to configure the AEBS.
iFelix

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Thanks for your explicit comments iFelix.
No luck yet.
Here is where I stand:
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-->> uses channel 11
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As I said "never connect to the Airport Express
network", this means "never connect to the Airport
Express network".
If I create a second wireless network, then would
I
need to switch to the network supporting the
Airport
Express?
No
If not, the remote speakers would not
appear in the iTunes Speaker selection dropdown,
correct?
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of your network, in fact both wireless networks are
in fact one network, but you want iTunes to go via
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Or does the wired connection obviate the need to
switch to the 2nd (iTunes only) network?
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Which is why I said "never connect to the Airport
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apikoros wrote:
The Utility transferred all of the AE's settings, so I still have to change the password, which leaves me with only 2 other questions, I think:
1) I assume it's just a matter of using the Utility, entering a stronger password and checking for it to be remembered in Keychain Access. But do I have to change the password for each individual unit-- the TC, the Extreme and both Expresses-- or will changing it just for the TC alone work for the entire network?
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Bob,
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Unfortunately there are a couple of other users of the extreme (PC and MAC), so I would have to unmount these as well.
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Almigurt wrote:
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