Failover and Switchover

Hi ,
I needs some clarifications regarding the manual failover and Swithover.
As i know these both are role transitions from primary to standby and also switchover is done during Planned tasks. And fail over is the one which is done during sudden unplanned events.
Also switchover can be done at any point of time.
Assume do to some unexpected events , my primary database is down  and failed to Up. so i need to do a manual failover....
My question here is , Anyway i am going to do manually, but why i need to do a failover? I can initiate a switchover right?
Even if i do a failover , if my database is not in the flash back mode , then i need to rebuild a new standby database....
Why i want to make myself in trouble by using failover insttead of a switchover.
Regards,
Mohammed

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              >> >> > No, you need only one. Either NES or weblogic proxy.
              >> >> >
              >> >> >
              >> >> >> Thank you very much for your help!
              >> >> >> Giri
              >> >> >
              >> >> >- Prasad
              >> >> >
              >> >
              >>
              >
              >
              

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