Fails to boot...sometimes 790fx-gd70

This rig is a couple years old and I just installed a new hdd, new ram, and windows 7. The problem is that it won't boot the first time I try, but after I power it off, unplug, and then discharge the electricity...it comes up every time. I have a 790fx-gd70 and I added all of this stuff (mainly because I wanted too) because I was doing something similar before. I would get to the boot screen and then either hang on auto-detecting sata 2 (cd burner) or go on and be fine. Sometimes it would just freeze at the desktop, so I thought it might be the hdd going bad or the ram. All of my temps are good and to my knowledge everything is hooked up correctly.
I read a couple articles saying it might be the ram but its brand new and the same speed as what was in there previously. Please help
Thanks

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The problem is that it won't boot the first time I try, but after I power it off, unplug, and then discharge the electricity...it comes up every time.
That part can't be the memory, it must be a powersupply problems, else it would also start without unplugging the PSU.
And the latest Phenom should do 4x 1333 these days.
My money is on the powersupply, as it has bogus numbers for something that's rated 850W

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    Quote from: Stu on 02-August-09, 20:41:23
    yannifb,
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