Fan control P35 Plat. Combo

I'm new to MSI product.. So far I'm very pleased with my purchase..
I can't seem to figure out how to adjust my system fans.. My fans are able to be adjusted and were adjusted to lower speeds on my other (non MSI) motherboards..
I've tried using the limited adjustment found on the H/W bios page, but nothing changed..
I've tried adjusting them VIA the 'Dual Core Center' and nothing happens, I hit up or down and it won't change..
I've tried to load the sidebar utility and it fails to load.. IDK why this is.. I've tried to install from the CD and the Website and neither version will work..
Really the only thing I am wanting to take care of right now is the System fans.. They are loud at full power.. Is there a way to slow them down from the bios or utility?
Thanks
ATIonion
P35 Platinum Combo (original bios, neither Live Updates will work for me.. They just shutdown mid download)
E4300 @ 3.6Ghz
XMS2 800mhz 2x1Gb
HD3850
320 Gb SATA with Vista Ultimate x86 installed

Quote from: Jack the Newbie on 28-April-08, 04:01:45
Hello ATIonion,
does the automatic CPU Fan regulation work properly?
How many system fans do you have installed and which of the SYSFan-headers did you use for each one of them?
Automatic CPU fan Reg.. ?? I'm not sure I know what you're refering to
As for the SysFan headers I am using 1,2,3, and 5.. 4 is the only one not being used.. In addition to this I should say that I have no control over my CPUfan speeds either..
Thanks for any help...
ATIonion

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P35 Neo - Sys Fan control

I have a P35 Neo and recently i bought a cooler and a fan for my Ati4850.I connected the fan to the Sys Fan 1 but to my dissapointment i cant control the rpm of the fan through the Dual core center .
I took a look at Bios but i couldnt find anything useful.
Do i miss something ?
I even download Speedfan but didnt help .

I don't know of any that would have fan speed control for anything other than CPU fan. The only thing I can suggest would be to purchase a fan control module of some kind that goes in an empty drive bay. Something like >> this <<

P35 Platinum Fan control

how to control the speed of the sys fans? with Dual Core Center it is impossible, how to make?

What?.....this is just mindblowingly annoying.
All boards I have owned for the last 8 years have been able to control fan speeds. I didn't even consider the possibility that that this essential feature could be lacking when I bought the P35 Platinum
I was going to recommend this board to a friend, but without software fan control the board is almost useless in my opinion.
Please never make a board in this way again...ever.

P35 Neo Combo F woes

Hi all.
I am new to this forum so I hope I don't repeat an old topic (I have looked for this problem and don't see it specifically).
Basically, I built a system for a brother 2 yrs ago using this MoBo with an Intel Quad 6550 and DDR2 800. It worked fine for him until one day it just went into an endless cycle of starting and stopping, fans roaring but no boot up. Long story made short, he had it worked on by some professionals in the Columbus, Oh area and after upgrading the bios to 1.3 and swapping RAM(which didn't work), they sold him a new Intel MoBo.
Well, I now have this Mobo (because I'm stubborn) in my rig and everytime I upgrade software or install a new component, it freaks. But, I don't get the 'cycle' that I've read about. In fact, I wish I did. I could deal with that. What it does for me is nothing but run the fans. No HD accessing, no beeping, no post; nothing unless I turn off PS, pull the plug, and repeat until it will post, acknowledge the HD and boot up. There is no set pattern to what will work either. I have pulled the cord, discharged the capacitors, reset CMOS, and had nothing happen. What really puzzles me (even more) is that when Windows restarts after maintenance or if I restart manually, the computer powers down completely and starts up again from scratch, maybe. Sometimes when I let it set overnight, it will start up after the initial 'stutter.'
When it boots up, it runs fine with default CMOS settings until powered down. Sometimes it cycles once and takes off, other times not. I have gotten no satisfaction from MSI other than 'send it in with $35 and we'll see what we can do.' What I'm about to do is buy an Asus board and use this one as a Frisbee, but I do like it when it works........
Here is what I've got
-Intel E6300 1.86 GHZ Core 2 duo
-MSI 7365 P35 Neo Combo F Bios V 1.7
-(2) Corsair DDR2 800 CM2X-1024-6400C4 (same memory sticks I originally used for my bro, I have swapped them with 2 Corsair DDR2 800 CM2X1024-6400C5DHX and it makes no difference)
-Sapphire ATI Radeon 3870 (512k DDR4) vid card (My bro had ATI 1950 pro)
-WD 1600 AAJS-00PSA0 SATA HD
-HP CD Writer + 8100
-Toshiba DVD Rom SD-M1712
-Win XP Pro (32 bit) SP 3. All SPs installed from downloads, not cds or dvds
-PSU OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W with 2 25A 12V rails
Sorry to ramble so much, I hope what I've said makes some sense. I'm a retired auto tech, not a computer tech :-)
Thanks, Bob

Hello and welcome,
im normally not recommending this, but is 1.3 the latest bios onboard?
If so, might wanna update bios and see if that helps, there were some issues with powering down, memorycompatibility and other stuff.
Read here on how to do it safely:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=113295.0
If this is your board:
http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&cat2_no=&cat3_no=&prod_no=1216
then look also here for biosfiles and other stuff that might come in handy, be sure to get the latest bios file, it incorporates all previous fixes.
DONT use LiveUpdate, M-Flash or any other windows based biosupdating program, cause that might wreck your board.
Use the tool provided or via cd/dvd, read here:
http://www.biosflash.com/e/bios-boot-cd.htm

Is P35 Platinum Combo compatible with Windos 8?

I never imagined when I bought Windows 8 that my pc might be too old but looking at the driver supprot page for my P35 Platinum Combo makes me think now that I should not be using Windows 8. My pc has been having problems every since I installed Windows 8 on a new drive. For a while it would often crash/auto restart. Then things were ok for a while. Now, in the past week, my pc is really slow. Simple things like opening file explorer take a very long time. Surprisingly, in safe mode my pc runs faster.
Video Driver is up to date and has been since I installed Win 8 (radeon 13.1)
board drivers up to date
malware/adware/virus scanned
running with only an ssd drive. 80gb free space on a 160gb drive
followed ssd drive tweaks such as indexing off, prefetching off, maintenance off, RAC off, etc...
minimized virtual memory to better use my 8gb ram
Just wondering what others think about running Windows 8 on this motherboard of mine. My specs are:
P35 Platinum Combo (msi.com/product/mb/P35-Platinum-Combo.html)
Intel E8400 (ark.intel.com/products/33910/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8400-6M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB)
Intel X25-M SATA Solid State Drive - 160 GB, 2.5 inches (ark.intel.com/products/56603/Intel-SSD-X25-M-Series-160GB-2_5in-SATA-3Gbs-50nm-MLC)
Kingston 8gb DDR 2 800
Saphire HD 7850
P.s.
Can't post complete links since this is my first post.

USER-HOSTILE! Hahaha! Hilarious vid I can sympathize with the author. I'm a fairly seasoned user and while I did manage to figure out all the controls, after much googling, I still had to deal with all the crashing and slow downs.
Well I decided not to waste any more time and reverted back to windows 7. All is perfectly functional now and at a nice healthy speed. I think my hardware was just too old for Windows 8 since my friends pc is running fine in Windows 8. Granted... He hates the interface and is now jealouse that I'm back to Windows 7, haha.
Now to create my next catastrophe! Updating my bios. lol. I noticed that the most recent version will provide support for L2 cache which would be nice since it seems my proccessor has that ability.
Thanx so much for your response Bernhard.

Dell Vostro fan control mystery

When I first installed Arch on my Vostro laptop back in October '12, I had to run the i8kmon and i8kutils to get the fan control to work. Without it, the fan was blasting at full speed all the time, no matter what the CPU temperature was.
However, this week I started noticing odd behavior in my fan control, in that the i8kmon service would start, but fail silently and the fan would remain off, no matter the temperature (not good). Here's the mystery: I disabled the i8kmon.service and since then my fan control is now BETTER then ever! The fan speed gradually increases and decreases based on system load, it's perfect.
Does anyone know what may be going on here? Perhaps the 3.8 kernel now supports this fan without special drivers? Of course, it could have been from earlier than 3.8, but I always had i8kmon running...?
Last edited by twelveeighty (2013-04-06 00:48:31)

Use the special key combo - It works on most Dell systems
Shift + FN + 1 5 3 2 4 from a VGA tty console - three lights will flash and one remain flashing. This enables a special Thermal management settings screen. Press FN + R to access it, you can change the fan speed, adjust the throttling and so on.
I need to set the fan speeds to 6000 and 5000 RPM, after which i8kfan 2 2 will reach max speed. Don't use this mode from within X, the system suspends everything else when in that mode and it goes into a VGA console, so things can screw up with the Wifi and the video adapter sometimes.

Multiple problems with P35 Neo Combo-F based system

Friend of mine, after returning from a trip, complained that he couldn't power up his computer. After analysis it was found that his (no-name) PSU was dead. Unfortunately replacing the PSU was not end to the problems. Here are the configuration details:
Mobo: MSI P35 Neo Combo-F v1.0 with v1.7 BIOS
CPU: Intel Celeron 420
RAM: single Transcend JM800QLJ-1G 1GB DDR2-800 module
Video Card: Gigabyte nVidia GV-NX84G256H
HDD: 1xMaxtor STM3250310AS DiamondMax 21 SATA
OS: Microsoft Windows XP SP3
PSU: LC-Power LC7380 PowerSilent Taurus 380W (3,3V: 20A, 5V: 20A, 12V1: 14A, 12V2: 8A)
Other: Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-212D SATA
Problem(s) description:
When powering up, system turns on for a second or two, then like it powers down for roughly the same time, and then turns itself on again and then boots. Not sure if this is double/fake boot "feature", but for single system power up I don't like having HDD powered up twice. This happens for every power up. BIOS has been upgraded to latest 1.7 using MSI Windows utility, after update system has been turned off, power cord removed, BIOS jumper set to clear for couple of minutes, then returned to normal position, returned power, started up the system, loaded optimized defaults, in power management setup's wake up event setup I have disabled "resume by pci device" and "resume by pci-e device" options which were only by default enabled "resume by ..." items.
System is very unresponsive, even after clean install with only motherboard drivers installed (Intel INF). I've checked with Sysinternals Process Explorer, Deferred Procedure Calls process is occupying most (50% - 70%) of the CPU, making "System" (and not "System Idle Process") occupying CPU 100%. I've checked with Spybot 1.6.2 and with Kaspersky AV 2010, there is no malware on the system. Odd thing is that while I'm running latest Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool "System" process falls down to 3% of CPU load and system becomes responsive more than ever.
When restarting system, after clean install and before installing any drivers, system would freeze at "Windows is shutting down" screen. Once I install Intel inf motherboard drivers, since then system kind of restarts, screen goes black, but it doesn't boot up again - I have to do a hardware reset.
When shutting down the system, similarly to restart scenario, system kind of shuts down, I can hear HDD is stopped, but system power LED remains on, and both CPU and PSU fans remain on.
Not sure if it is related but I'll mention it anyway, even though I can browse internet and download files with no problem, Windows update and Kaspersky Antivirus 2010 updates barely move from 0% after hours and hours of running (Kaspersky never moves off of the 0%, while Windows Update takes ages to get additional percent of a single ~900KB update)
I've tried replacing that single Transcend memory stick with single Kingston KVR800D2N5/2G DDR2 stick, and replacing graphics card with MSI's R4350-D512H, but in vain. I've also tried putting in 2 Kingston DDR2 sticks, but then system wouldn't boot at all. I've also tried replacing PSU with LC-Power's LC-6550 V2.0 (+3,3V: 30A, +5V: 28A, +12V1: 14A, +12V1: 14A) but it didn't solve anything.
I'm running out of options, any advice would be welcome.
Thanks in advance!
Regards,
Stevo.

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When powering up, system turns on for a second or two, then like it powers down for roughly the same time, and then turns itself on again and then boots.
This is normal behaviour. Nothing to worry about:
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I don't like having HDD powered up twice.
Your HDD is going to be just fine. Todays hard drives are usually built to be able to take 50'000 power-on-Cycles. If you turn on your system once a day, it will take about 68.5 years until you reach that number with that double-boot behaviour. When you power on your system 8 times a day, you will still have to do that for about 8.5 years (each day) until you reach 50'000. That means if your hard drives breaks within the next 5 years (warranty period), it is highly unlikely that this has anything to do with the double-boot behaviour.
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# System is very unresponsive, even after clean install with only motherboard drivers installed (Intel INF). I've checked with Sysinternals Process Explorer, Deferred Procedure Calls process is occupying most (50% - 70%) of the CPU, making "System" (and not "System Idle Process") occupying CPU 100%. I've checked with Spybot 1.6.2 and with Kaspersky AV 2010, there is no malware on the system. Odd thing is that while I'm running latest Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool "System" process falls down to 3% of CPU load and system becomes responsive more than ever.
# When restarting system, after clean install and before installing any drivers, system would freeze at "Windows is shutting down" screen. Once I install Intel inf motherboard drivers, since then system kind of restarts, screen goes black, but it doesn't boot up again - I have to do a hardware reset.
# When shutting down the system, similarly to restart scenario, system kind of shuts down, I can hear HDD is stopped, but system power LED remains on, and both CPU and PSU fans remain on.
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OS: Microsoft Windows XP SP3
Did your install CD already include SP3?
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Not sure if it is related but I'll mention it anyway, even though I can browse internet and download files with no problem, Windows update and Kaspersky Antivirus 2010 updates barely move from 0% after hours and hours of running (Kaspersky never moves off of the 0%, while Windows Update takes ages to get additional percent of a single ~900KB update)
This is another indication that your problems is Windows related. There is something wrong with your OS installation. You are talking about a clean OS Installation with no drivers but AV Software and Anti-Spyware stuff installed. This does not sound very healthy.
My suggestion would be to clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU, load "Optimized Defaults" in BIOS after that, repartition and format your hard drive from Windows Setup and reinstall Windows XP SP3. When you done, start with installing the latest Intel Chipset drivers (nothing else before that) and then restart your system right after the installation is done. Then install all the other drivers step by step and see if that changes anything.

P35 Platnium combo. chipset cooler?

hallo there. im not sure where to write so i just to the first and best spot^^
i have 2 questions
i have the P35 platnium combo card.
with a Q9300 2.5 @3.0Ghz
now even tho theres a big block of heatpibes and cubber lops and what not to cooldown the chipset, it stil gets prety hot. 55* idle and 80*load
i can se that on one of the heatsinks there is to holes wher u can screw something into it??
is there a cooler/Fan of some kind that fits on there?? and do wny1 know (if there is) if u can get it en Denmark og Europe somewhere??
next question is.
is there a MSI tool that works with this board where i can monitor the CPU temp.
its seems since im running Vista64 and a Quad core non of the following programs works,
speedfan
Real temp
core temp
Everest
and even the Msi monitor prg. that coms with my MOBO. it can only detect 2 cores and it says that i have a core temp of 85* witch is stupid, since i have Liquid Cooling, and Bios is saying i have 32*
hope eny1 can help me
regads NinZ :D

Quote from: AaronYuri on 03-August-08, 12:35:58
Speedfan, CoreTemp and Real Temp should work without any problems. Are you sure you're using the latest versions?
yes, im running the lates update/software of all the produkts.
and i can se that im not the only 1 having this trouble with getting the right temp shown, if u google it.
i have found it that with vista32 u can reboot hold down F8 and select "Disable Driver Enforcement."
this you have to do everytime you want to use one of the programs named above.
but still dont work on Vista64
and it still dont make of for MSI not making a Qaud core monitoring program, just like they have for Daul core. im not i programmer, but is it hard to make such a preogram??
regarding jason str awnser
i respect that u have given time to write to me....
but seriously...[qoute]get yourself some sheet metal and make a bracket to attach one side to your case and the other to a fan it can be aimed wherever you need some extra cooling.
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as u can se on this pict
on the rightside of the Chipset heatpipes are 2 holse that fits a small screw inside.
or on this picture
there u se the holes perfectly.
idont wanna start building brackets, the holse in the heatpipes most be there for a reason???? why??
again i am from Denmark and i can hear that the way i spell things might sound wrong or straight offensive,.. that is NOT intended, daddy is not mad, daddy is just disapointed
NinZ

NO POST-P35 Neo Combo-F

Good morning all,
I just purchased a P35 Neo Combo-F along with new RAM and MSI NX8500-TD512EH video card. Assmebled everything and no posting at all, no beeps or video. The fan on the power supply will sometimes stop for a few seconds but then will start again and stay on. I then went and got a 600 watt power supply but the same thing happens, stops for a few seconds and starts again and stays on.
This is all that is connected in the case:
- P35 Neo Combo-F
- Pentium D 940
- OCZ fan
- CORSAIR XMS2 2GB
- Video card - MSI NX8500-TD512EH
Any ideas? I've cleared the BIOS and taken out the battery, removed board from case and tried that. Any help or directions would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks guys,
de Erro

Test your board outside your case on a non-conducting surface in barebone configuration (CPU, video card, one stick of RAM in Slot1, power connectors). Clear CMOS with main A/C power cable removed from PSU. See if that changes anything.
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I made sure the 24 and 4 were tight connections.
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- Video card - MSI NX8500-TD512EH
Does this video card have its own power connector?
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I'm using an OKIA 600 WATT switching supply.
What is the amperage limit on the +12 rail? (check PSU sticker)
Is it this model? --> http://www.buypcdirect.com/product.aspx?pf_id=psu-bcc-okia600-blk
If the specs shown on that site are accurate, the amperag limit is only 24A/12V (288W). That rating is very low for a 600W-PSU, which doen't turn your unit into a convincing device. If you can, try a better PSU.

P35 neo combo wont post

Hi, i just bought new motherboard for my system (msi p35 neo combo) and it wont post or beep at all, all the fans start but the screen wont wake up(aka black screen). All the components works just fine on my old asrock 775-dualvsta. So far i've tried to boot up with&without any ram, graphics card, hard-disks, checked all cables X times, re-seated cpu cooler, cleared cmos, etc. No go! :( Any advices?
I bet it's DOA but i want to be sure before RMA, long process... >:(
My setup: C2D e6300, radeon x1950pro, 2gb PQI 800mhz ddr2, samsung t166 500gb, scythe ninja plus, antec slk3700amb, Hec PM-420PB.

Have you checked if all power connectors for board and video card are properly connected?
Board:
- 20/24-Pin ATX
- 4-Pin +12V CPU (connector cables should be black/yellow, otherwise it is additional 4-Pin plug for the 20+4 ATX connector above)
Video Card:
- 6-Pin +12V PCIe
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So far i've tried to boot up with&without any ram, graphics card, hard-disks, checked all cables X times, re-seated cpu cooler, cleared cmos, etc
Take the board out of the case and test it on a non-conducting surface in barebone confuguration (just CPU, video card, one stick of RAM, power connectors, keyboard). Clear CMOS with main A/C power connector removed from PSU after hardware changes. See if that changes anything.

In my macbook pro 15 inch mid 2012 model, my cpu and gpu will get very hot, when gaming or rendering sometimes over 200F. The fans only spin at max about 2900 rpm, when their max is 6400. I downloaded a fan control app, but how can i fix it?

In my macbook pro 15 inch mid 2012 model, my cpu and gpu will get very hot, when gaming or rendering sometimes over 200F. The fans only spin at max about 2900 rpm, when their max is 6400. I downloaded a fan control app, but how can i fix it?

Hi rhaughan,
I see that you have concerns about your operating temperature of your computer while using resource-heavy applications such as gaming applications. I have an article that will address some of the concerns you have mentioned:
Mac notebooks: Operating temperature - Apple Support
http://support.apple.com/en-is/HT201640
While there are third-party utilities that measure the temperature of a notebook computer, it is important to understand that these utilities are not measuring the external case temperature. The actual case temperature is much lower. Never use third-party applications to diagnose possible hardware issues—instead, contact Apple or go to an Apple Retail Store or Apple Authorized Service Provider.
You should also see this article for even further information about your fans:
Learn about the fans in your Mac - Apple Support
http://support.apple.com/en-is/HT202179
Thanks for being a part of the Apple Support Communities!
Cheers,
Braden

User-developed Fan Control for the S10(e)

Hello and welcome.
When you've searched the internet and found this thread, it's possible that you are an owner of a Lenovo Ideapad S10 or S10e which has a little problem with the behaviour and/or the noise of the fan. In this post you will get all the informations you need to handle this problem for yourself. It should also be the same on every S9/S9e.
Just a few comments before we begin:
This is not an official support or solution by Lenovo.
We are just normal users as you are, but we get rid of the fan and wanted to find a way to handle it. So if you want to try anything of the methods described here you have to know that you'll do all this only at your own risk. We are not responsible for any damages of your device. You should only use these methods if you know what you are doing.
Please note that this thread is only for discussing, improving, trouble shooting and perhaps extending the fan control utilities. Any general complaints about the fan problem itself should be placed in the original thread right here: http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=IdeaPad_Netbook&thread.id=795. It already has 80+ pages (the link goes to the first page) and it is better to exclude all the fan control stuff because there it's very difficult to keep an overview.
Here you may post all of your questions, ideas/brainstorming, concerns, thanks and so on and you are really invited to participate and be an active member.
In this first part of this post I'm going to summarize all information about using a fan control utility. For any newbie it will be enough to read this post to get all necessary information. The second part does the same for developement of fan control utilities as we still have no known or working fan control utility for Linux, Mac OS X and other OSs I've forgotten - for now.
For getting started you need a S10 or S10e with an up-to-date BIOS. For the S10 it's the 90 67, for the S10e the 66.
The battery issue
Under very specific circumstances - that we haven't figured out yet - it might happen that your Lenovo S9/10(e) no longer detects the battery while using S10FanControl or S10Fan. It might occur after 2 minutes, it might occur after 2 months, it might never occur. It does not occur using Notebook Hardware Control.
It can be solved by removing the battery, waiting 10 seconds and put it back in. Then the battery is re-initialized and the detection works again.
S10FanControl - Windows
The first utility is S10FanControl created by user dresslerc. The current version is 1.0.0.1, available here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/yd5xmnrnijf/S10FanCtrl1.0.0.1.zip. After you've downloaded it you just have to extract it and start the .EXE in the "Release" folder. Here are the notes and the description dresslerc posted right here:
Everyone,
I've uploaded a version which everyone can use to test with. Remember this is still a TEST version although I think it works for the most part. It should work both on the S10/S10e.
Please install the .NET Framework 2.0 or later first.
Then click here to download the exe: http://www.mediafire.com/?jlg2enkjdxn
Once downloaded, extract the files and hit hte S10FanCtrl.Exe. Once this program launches you should be able to control the fan. Keep in mind that if you lower the fan speed then it'll take upto 30 seconds before the S10 registers the change, so be patient.
I've only tested this on the latest BIOS 59. I am sure it will work on the 57 as well but the individual speeds might not work properly on that version. Please try it out and report back.
The only issue that I heard so far is that occasionally the fan will kick in regardless if in Manual/Smart Mode. Also the temp it shows may not be accurate. If you find any other issues please let me know what they are so I can attempt to fix them.
Once we have all the kinks worked out then I will release the source.
Heres a quick Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PKl70ZgmFg
REMEMBER: USE PROGRAM AT YOUR OWN RISK!!! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY DAMAGES THIS PROGRAM MIGHT CAUSE.
Application Use:
BIOS Controlled - Fan is controlled by the BIOS
Smart Mode - Fan is controlled based on the conifguration in the options. You can set the threshold here at what temp you want the fan to kick in...
Manual - Fan is controlled manually by the slider.
If you want to have the program startup automatically, then place a shortcut of the app in the PROGRAM FILES -> STARTUP folder. Then you may want to go to the options and make the application minimize at startup.
Edit:
It seems there are some issues with the app and the S10e or previous BIOS versions. Will post a fix asap.
The source code for S10FanControl is available here: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7a3fb99d33817c08c2b435915e8821d7e04e75f6e8ebb871, written in Visual Basic .NET 2008.
S10Fan - Windows
The second utility is a tool written by user slash:
Hi guys,
Well it looks like Lenovo dropped this matter after all. Anyway, I have here another fan controller to add to the bunch. I have been using it for some time now without any problems. It is for both S10 and S10e.
What the program does is basically the same as others. The S10's fan speed is controlled according to the ACPI thermal zone temperature. By over writing the values which resides at offset 50h of the EC register at an appropriate timing, the ACPI thermal zone temperature is over ridden. The program is written in C and uses WinIo created by Sysinternals. The GUI version is available now.
It should be noted that the fan speed temperature thresholds differs with BIOS version. For 14CN67WW and 14CW90WW the fan changes speed at temperatures 60c, 65c, 70c, and 80c. Furthermore, the BIOS will automatically shutdown the S10 if the temperature reaches 90c.
The program has a fail safe mechanism that automatically disables itself if the actual ACPI thermal zone temperature goes above 85c. This allows the BIOS to regain control and the fan will work as intended by Lenovo. If the temperature drops below 85c the program will take over control again.
To run the program, you will need administrative privileges.
Known working BIOS versions: 14cn58ww, 14cn60ww, 14cn67ww, 14cn90ww
The program will work with any BIOS version as long as the BIOS uses the 50h EC register readouts to control the fan.
build 2009.05.24
Higher priorities for EC commands.
Usage: The program will run in the system tray. Double click or right click and use the menu to open the program. To determine the BIOS temperature thresholds, use the 'Setup' button. To run at boot time, place a short cut in the startup folder.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/njhz0icym2t/S10Fan.zip build 2009.05.23
Usage: S10Fan.exe
Added GUI.
build 2009.05.17
Usage: S10Fan.exe 60 65 70 80 70 75 80 85
S10Fan.exe test
The first 4 values are the BIOS temperature thresholds, the latter 4 are new thresholds that we want to over ride with. To determine the BIOS temperature thresholds, use the 'test' option.
build 2009.03.16
Usage: S10Fan.exe 70 75 80 85
-Slash
For updates and newer releases please check slash's post: http://forums.lenovo.com/lnv/board/message?board.id=IdeaPad_Netbook&view=by_date_ascending&message.i...
Notebook Hardware Control - Windows
The third utility is a profile for Notebook Hardware Control. I've adapted it from a profile for the Lenovo N500 which I've found here: http://nhc.yourcopy.de/overview/. With the manual for creating the profiles that can be found here: http://www.notebook-treff.de/board/database/hilfsprogramme-f%C3%BCr-nhc/92-how-to-create-an-acpi-fil... I was able to change the ACPI commands to work on the S10(e).
Installation and setup is divided in two steps. The program Notebook Hardware Control (NHC) is available at http://www.pbus-167.com/. Install the program, but do not start it for now. Then you need my NHCConfig utility, available here: http://forum.eeepcnews.de/download/file.php?id=1476. It detects your model number and BIOS-version via WMI and writes a proper S10(e) profile to the NHC acpi directory. The GUI is German if you have a German Windows and English if not. Additional languages can be added.
After you've extracted the ZIP-file you have to start the nhcc.exe (requires .NET Framework 2.0). At first a message appears that you use the program at your own risk. Then you can choose if you want to apply your own settings (experts) or if you just want the program to run with my defaults (newbies). In the settings window you can see your system details on the left, you can set up your thresholds in the middle and you can set the fan speed you want on the right. Then click on execute.
Now start NHC. Go to the "Settings" tab and click on "Show all NHC options and settings". Then a few more tabs appear. Go to the "ACPI" tab and check if the "ACPI Control System" is running (if everything works, the message "ACPI Control System running" will appear, otherwise it says "ACPI control system is not yet configured for this system"). Now click on "Show ACPI Control System details".
Here you can change the temperature values the fan control depends on (the settings from NHCC are the default values). On the bottom of the window you can see the "Current CPU temperature". That is the value you have to deal with. In general it has a value of around 60°C. In the middle you can see four user editable temperature values. You can leave the values as they are if everything works. The on/off values are responsible for the temperatures at which the fan starts running and stops again after cooling the device. The level values are responsible for the fan speed, for example you can set the off_level higher to let the fan run all the time at the lowest level, if the values do not fit for your device or whatever.
You can switch between NHC and BIOS control by disabling or enabling the "ACPI Control System" or by closing NHC.
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With every utility it is possible that it takes some time until you see an effect after you've started the program. Any failure of the programs should be no big problem because the only thing that should happen is that the BIOS controls the fan. Another issue that might occur due to the way the fan is controlled is that the fan may start running for a very short time and it looks like the fan control has lost control. The fan should stop immediately or at least after a few seconds.
Keep in mind that running the S10(e) with a fan control means that the S10(e) has to deal with higher temperatures. That could mean that the device will not last for 10 years but only 9 years (who uses a netbook so long...?). In every case you need a tool for monitoring your cpu temperature. We know that especially Core Temp 0.99.5 and Real Temp 3.00 do a very good job. That is important because the temperature values you need to set up the fan control are different from the values reported by the cpu sensor, they are between 15°C and 20°C higher. A normal temperature reported by the monitoring should be around 40°C, with the NHC default values the fan starts running at 52°C and stops at 38°C.
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END using fan control
BEGINNING developing fan control
Controlling the S10(e)'s fan is a litte bit difficult because it looks like there is no way to control it directly. But it is possible to manipulate the temperature the BIOS fan control depends on. As long as the built-in fan control thinks that the cpu is cool enough the fan stays off. And that is exactly the point where we can attack.
The fan control depends on a field called RTMP in the memory of the embedded controller. It can be accessed via "_SB.PCI0.LPCB.EC0.ERAM", the offset of RTMP is 0x50 (hex) or 80 (dec). It is a direct I/O read/write. The complete NHC command for reading the value is: ACPI.FIELD.ReadByOffset("_SB.PCI0.LPCB.EC0.ERAM", ref value, 0x50, 8) with "value" as the variable which gets the value.
What program logic do you need? You need a timer or something else that conducts an always-refresh cycle. It sounds very easy: You read the value, manipulate it and write it back. And it is that easy, you just have to keep some things in mind.
This refresh has to be done very often. The procedure must be very thin and quick. Also the bus that is used to communicate with the EC is a problem, but since the S10e BIOS 66 it became a minor problem for me because it looks like the built-in fan control now depends on some kind of average value over the last few seconds and it doesn't really matter if one write-cycle is failing.
The read-event must be placed before the write-event. Otherwise you just read your manipulated value. The field is filled by the system regularly, so you just have to test if the read_value is different from the written_value, then you know that the field was filled with a "fresh" value. Like "if read_temperatue <> written_temperature then real_cpu_temperature = read_temperature else do nothing".
About the values you have to write back... you will have to test and play a bit. My experience is that you can select three fan levels, starting at 59°, 62° and 70° - at least with the NHC profile and my S10e it's like that. It's some trial 'n' error. My fan stays off at < 59°, but you should select a very low value for fan_off like 30°. In my opinion it switches off much faster the lower the written value is. But it's just a feeling, I haven't measured it.
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Perhaps some users from countries with other languages than German and English can add tags for "fan", "control" and "noise".
Note from Moderator: Minor edits in title and disclaimer.
Message Edited by JaneL on 04-25-2009 02:32 PM

Great opening post Carsten!
The latest bios:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-71252 (BIOS 66)
The FSB can be reduced from 133MHz to 100MHz using SetFSB, this also reduces the heat:
http://www13.plala.or.jp/setfsb/
clockgen = SLG8SP513V
If you add a shortcut to the startup folder the program will start at startup. Under properties you can change the target to:
"C:\Program Files\SetFSB\setfsb.exe" -s100 -b1 -cg[SLG8SP513V] -w20
So it starts with a FSB of 100Mhz, in the background, with the right clock generator, after 20 seconds.
Message Edited by quazar on 04-25-2009 05:07 AM

NEED HELP w/ P35 Neo Combo and Windows XP Install Stop 0x24 error BSOD

First a little background, in case it's relevant:
I was running a 865PE Neo2 with 4 x 1gig Corsair DDR2 6400. Otherwise, same specs as below. Ran it for 2 years without a hitch, then got a virus that corrupted my profile and had trouble booting, logging on, and persistent virus messages. Long story short, I fried the BIOS and decided to replace the mobo and upgrade the memory, keeping the rest of the system intact. I previously had windows installed on both partitions of the HDD but changed the name of the directory for Windows on the C: drive so it would boot from the D: drive.
I have replaced 865PE with the P35 and changed the boot sequence to boot from CD. The BIOS loads fine, and I get to the windows setup screen ok. Whether I opt for Recovery Console, or a new install of Windows, I get a BSOD error message below.
STOP: 0x00000024 (0x001902FA, 0xf7906700, 0xf7906400, 0xf7103bef)
ntfs.sys Address F7103BEF base at F709f00, Datestamp 3d6de5c1
I tried with both new and old memory (in the right slots) and get the same message. I booting with no memory because I read in another post that the system should beep to indicate no memory and there was no beep.
BIOS recognizes the HDD, CPU and Memory so not sure what the problem is. Should I try taking the HDD out and reformatting it on another PC? (not easy since I don't have another desktop pc) Please help with some suggestions. Thank you.
System Specs
P35 Neo Combo Mobo
BIOS ver 1.3
E6400 Intel Dual Core
1 x 2 gig Crucial PC3 8500 DDR3 1066 mhz
nVidia 8800 GTS graphics
WD 250 gig Sata HD w/ 2 partitions of 125 ea.
Antec 500W SmartPower PSU
Installation disk is Windows XP Pro sp1

STOP: 0x00000024 indicates corrupt NTFS file system on the hard drive
Reformat would be the best thing to do. Download WD Data Lifeguard for your HDD, make the disk and run it.
http://support.wdc.com/product/download.asp?level1=6&lang=en
Quote from: FlyingSteve on 18-August-09, 10:29:00
I didn't know that the P35 Neo board ran ddr3...
That's where the 'Combo' part in the name comes into play, 2 DDR2 or 2 DDR3.
From MSI description of MB:
Main Memory
• Supports two unbuffered DIMM of 1.8 Volt DDR2 667/800 SDRAM. (Max: 4GB)
• Supports two unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 800/1066 SDRAM. (Max: 4GB)

Need Help with Memory OC to 1066 on P35 Platinum Combo

Hi,
I've been trying to get my Corsair Dominator memory to 1066, but everytime I change settings, the system will not post. So far I've:
- Disabled EIST & DOT
- Disabled 'Configure DRAM Timing by SPD' and set values to 5-5-5-15 (left all others as is)
- Processor reports 333x9
- Set ratio to 1:1.6.7 bringing adjusted timings to 1109. I also have 1:1.2 for 1332 & 1:1.50 for 999
- Memory voltage set to 2.1
Not sure where to go from here as other MS reported here seem to have different settings than the P35 Platinum Combo.
Specs are:
- Intel E8400 3.0GHz Dual Core (45nm)
- MSI P35 Platinum Combo
- Sapphire Radeon HD 3870 512MB GDDR4
- Xigmatek NRP-MC651 650W Modular PSU
- Corsair Dominator 4GB 1066 DDR2 RAM (PC2 8500)
- Samsung 22X DVD Burner
- Lexa Blackline Case
Any advice welcome -- I'm at a loss.

Hi,
You would probably better off, posting in the Overclocking section than here.
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?board=27.0

P35 Neo Combo, boot problem? [FIXED]

** PROBLEM SOLVED - Tech support told we that if there was any way to update the BIOS to version 1.3 then I should do that. I found a way and after that everything have been running smoothly.
I would like to thank everyone that helped me in here and hope that my experience and the solution might come in handy to someone else. **
**This thread have been updated with more information and an alteration of the story as my experience with the board/BIOS grew larger, and some information was given to me by at kind person in this thread**
Hello everyone.
Some days ago I got some new hardware and put it all together but I ran into a big problem.
Specs of the new machine:
Case: Arctic Cooling T2 Pro, Miditower, 500W
Psu name: AX-500F, specs:
+12v: 14 A (15 A peak)
+12v2: 16 A (19 A peak)
+5v: 25 A
+2.3v: 30 A
-12v: 0.5 A
+5vSB: 2.0 A (3.0 A peak)
This information is a direct quote from Artic Cooling's homepage:
Power Supply
The AX-500F is a power supply optimized for high end PC's and complies with Intel's ATX12V version 2.0. The continuous output power fulfils gaming system requirements based on multiple VGA boards.
The AX-500F was tested with the following configurations:
AMD Athlon FX-62 CPU
2 GB Ram
2x ATI X1950 XTX (Cross Fire)
Intel Core 2 Extreme CPU
2 GB Ram
2x NVIDIA 7950 Gx2
I also did try booting with a more powerful PSU but still no luck, and from what I can see then this one should be powerful enough
Mobo: MSI P35-NEO-Combo-F, Intel P35, Ver. 1.0, BIOS ver. 1.2
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, BOX
Ram: Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400C4, 2x1024MB 2.1v
Graphics card: Inno3D GeForce 8800GTS, 320MB, PCI-E
CD-rom: Lite-On DVD/CD
HDD: Western Digital Raptor 74GB
OS: Windows XP 32bit
When I turned it on for the first time nothing happend, no picture no error sounds although I could see and hear that the computer was on. I turned it off and then on again, nothing, I turned it off and then on again and something happend.
I got a red text message saying that my overclocking attempt was unsuccessful, which I found pretty odd cause this was the first time the computer was on. I have now been informed that it's a fail safe build into the BIOS to prevent a melt down if you overclock it too hard, which is kinda smart. I then had the option to go into the BIOS, so I looked at every setting to see if things were OK and if it was somehow overclocked or had some wrong settings.. Everything looked and still looks alright when I save and exit. When I do save and exit, be it with the settings I think is okay, the fail safe or optimized settings then the screen just goes black.
So now for the 'clearing the CMOS' part When I reset the CMOS with the jumper I can get further than the error message about overclocking. I get two options:
1. To enter BIOS setup to configure the bios.
2. To automatically load some default settings and continue booting.
First I tried option 1, after doing a save and exit the screen went black again, got the overclocking message and had to clear the CMOS one more time.
Then I choose option 2, windows started to load, I got into safe mode and windows started to find all the new hardware and so on. When that was done I was kinda forced to reboot, screen went back and yes you guessed it... I had to clear the CMOS and choose options 2. I got as far as getting into windows and installed some of the stuff from the CD-rom's that came with the motherboard, again I was doomed to reboot and clear the CMOS. Once again option 2 needed to be selected to get the system up and running, and I got as far as to the "Want to activate windows" option, and couldn't do that cause the network card was not installed so I had no internet connectivity. Apparently if windows detect too much hardware being replaced then the activation thing pops up, and I later learned that I can't activate my windows anymore cause I used my activation quota and I have to get a new key
What I learned from my brief time in windows normal mode:
Everything seemed to work nicely, and freaking fast too....swiiing!
2gb of ram was detected, running dual channel and at the desired voltage.
The CPU was running at normal speed and voltage.
All in all everything seemed normal until I rebooted.
The only thing I can conclude is that something goes horribly wrong when I clear the CMOS, load some default settings and then reboot. I have seen that I am able to get into the system with my current hardware, but only after a CMOS clear, so what the heck is wrong, what goes wrong after the reboot?
And this is as far as I can get with my own knowledge of computers :(
So now I hope to go that I can get some help from some of you guys, any thoughts on this or anyone know of such a problem and maybe know a solution?
If I missed some information you guys need to solve this puzzle then just ask.
On a side note, if I somehow get the chance to flash my BIOS to version 1.3 in hope that if will solve my problem, then will it erase my chances to send it in for RMA and get a new board? Do I break any rules by doing that?
Best Regards
Mads, Denmark

Quote from: Maesus on 24-August-07, 23:29:25
ok, when you turn it off and on and off and on, the BIOS will think it's an overclocking failure event, and hence display the overclock error message.
usually this is due to the memory settings was set incorrectly (by the BIOS itself). You may need to manually change the memory settings and see if that helps. And, please make sure that your BIOS can support FSB1333 processor like E6750 out of the box. If not, try flashing to the latest BIOS.
Hello and thanks for the quick anwser.
I did check if memory/cpu settings were okay and the seem to be on the right defaut setting. I save and exit and the screen just goes black. I forgot to add the motherboard and BIOS versions but they are there now: Mobo: MSI P35-NEO-Combo-F, Intel P35, Ver. 1.0, BIOS ver. 1.2
I don't see how I will be able to flash the bios when I can't get into windows and do it, and there is no way else for me to do it. If it was the case that the BIOS didn't support FSB1333, then I would never have gotten as far as getting into windows and getting the activation message would I?

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