Fan going out in my Beige G3 AIO

huh my case fan in my AIO is going out in my AIO . the problem it i dont know the size and what will fit. cause i am trying to find one that is real quiet but will push as much air if not more than the stock but be way quieter

Frank,
Measuring sides:
The plastic housing is 91 mm x 91 mm (just under 3 5/8th inches square)
The holes are 82.5 mm center to center.
Measuring diagonally:
The overal dimentions are 127 mm corner to corner,
117 mm from center of hole to center of hole.
Thickness is 25 mm (just under 1" thick)
The metal case into which the fan fits will accomodate a fan up to 2'' thick.
The fan is attached to the metal case with only two diagonally opposed screws so the 117 mm measurement for fasteners is what really counts.
I am never disapointed in Apple design engineer's aptitude for fancy cases that make it difficult to access something as simple as a fan. The metal case protrudes down into the same cavity that the sliding motherboard tray occupies.
Do you think that they would have the fan fasten from inside that cavity? NO. They have you disassemble the upper portion of the computer. The decorative case has to come off - six screws; the metal static shield has to come off - six more non-matching screws -- two into plastic, four into metal; one more screw holding a thermosensor and metal case tab and a matching screw holding the opposite tab.
I thought I would get lucky and be able to leave the metal case in place and just remove the two fan attachment screws. Alas, only one was accessable. I would have had to remove the power supply circuit board. Instead, I just bent one metal tab up, pushed down hard on the metal housing on one side to bend a second tab and the metal case dropped into the lower cavity. All of that work could have been avoided by having one tab slot on the underside of the CRT case and one screw that would require a short screwdriver.
Have design engineers never talked to someone who actually services these machines? My hat is off to the guy that finally perfected the hinged door approach of the B&W tower. Changing a battery in a IIci/Quadra 700, RAM in a Quadra 800 form factor machine including the 8100 PPCs, opening a 6400/6500 case and doing anything inside an iMac all rank mention as cumbersome tasks that could have been made much simpler.
So much for my rantings. The fan size is pretty standard so shop away. Just use the old fan until you have a new one. Removal and replacement is only worth doing once!
Ji˜m

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