Fan Noise of the GT72

Hi there. :3
After around 2 or so months of working, I should eventually have myself an MSI GT72 gaming laptop. Preferably one with the latest i7 5700HQ processor and NVIDIA 980M GTX (4GB)
I've found quite a few online with good prices that interest me.
I am a little worried about the fan noise of the system though. I've read quite a few responses on here and other forums that both fans can tend to be very loud during gaming, even when you've only been playing any game for around 10 or so minutes. I'm not sure if that's true but reading the responses on the forums stating this makes me sometimes feel like wanting to purchase an different laptop (ASUS G751) since that one has an better cooling system. However, the fact that everything is far more accessible and easy to clean in the GT72 and that the GPU can be upgraded to a new one later in the years ahead keeps me somewhat glued to the GT72.
Yes, GT72 is an extreme gaming machine but there's only so much noise from the fans that one can withstand from an laptop (gaming or non-gaming) before it begins to get very irritating to the ears, especially when the game in question that's currently running on the machine isn't exactly graphically demanding in the first place. As long as the fan noise on the system is bearable and isn't too annoying whilst I'm gaming at night-time, when others are asleep, then I'm sure I'll be satisfied with the GT72 once it's in my possession.
I guess I just need some reassurance from a lot of GT72 owners on here who have had the GT72 in front of them for a long while and been pushing it with very graphically demanding games. Any positive comments regarding the noise of the fans would be cool.
Oh, I've also noticed that MSI have released an Beta 'Silent Option' fan speed control tool on their forums recently (on the 4th June 2015 - https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=256233.0) so I'll definitely be using that tool whenever I feel the fan speed kicking in a bit too much and sounding a bit like an jet-engine. I'll play around with the percentages and hopefully get the perfect settings, of which I'll certainly share on the thread or in an new topic so that the rest of my GT72 buddies can have an quiet (and cool) laptop. :3

Quote from: Victoria's Secret on 17-June-15, 16:01:53
How do you like silent option tool after using it?
I'd love to give the tool a try myself, it's just that I don't own an GT72 laptop yet. I'm saving up for one. :3 I'll order one eventually.
Have you tried it? How well does it work?

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The "sweet spot" needs higher resolution (more fan levels allocated to these fan speeds), because slightly different load patterns may make it necessary to go from one level to the next higher level, but then the next level still should be bearable. Conversely, the higher levels (e.g. from 2600 rounds/minute on) do not need such a high resolution, because for most of the users, these levels will be only attained rarely anyway, and then they are accepting the noise.
Currently, there is no fan speed level at the sweet spot. With the proposed fix, there would be 3 fan speed levels at the sweet spot, with a neighbouring fan speed level (2100 rounds/minute) still being bearable when considering the performance delivered.
There is no fan speed level below 1500 rounds/minute. This is ok, because the fan is nearly inaudible at this speed anyway, and below a certain speed, there is a risk (depending on the fan) for the fan to actually not rotate at all (e.g. due to friction).
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The Lenovo engineer responsible for the Embedded Controller Program of the T530 should need less than one day to change the source code of the Embedded Controller Program and to recompile it. The engineer may need one additional day to test this program (e.g. for different types of fans), and there may be a need for an additional day to release the update to the BIOS and ECP. All in all, Lenovo should not need more than 3 engineer-days (maybe worth 1800 USD) to fix the problem.
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Probably the whole current T series (T530,T520,T430,T420) as well as the current W series (W530,W520) fails the users in any of these scenarios (among others):
User working in a quiet office.
User working in a quiet library.
User working in a quiet bedroom.
User working in a quiet boardroom.
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Incidental remark: Lenovo subsidiary can do better:
Lenovo has bought the majority of the Germany consumer electronics company Medion. Medion currently offers a consumer level notebook "E7222" for 499€ including German VAT. Despite of this low price, this notebook delivers very good fan control (that is: the notebook is nearly silent when the CPU is near-idle). (However, being consumer-grade, it does not offer a docking-station or a FullHD screen or WWAN.)
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Some weeks ago, I had a powerful W530. I returned it due to fan noise for cash refund. Now I have the T530 (Serial number: R9RRF26) which has exactly the same problem. The deadline until I can legally request a cash refund runs until 2012-09-07. I hereby ask Lenovo:
To fix the problem and release an ECP or BIOS update until 2012-09-06 (it is doable, see above) or
if the problem cannot be fixed in this time (e.g. due to bureaucracy): provide me with a written statement (e.g. e-mail or forum post is sufficient) that my legal cash refund deadline (German law: §355 BGB) will be voluntarily extended by Lenovo (to some date Lenovo thinks it needs to fix the problem).
If none of the above happens, I will have to return the T530 as well. This is the 2nd chance Lenovo has gotten from me, there will be no 3rd chance. I would have to turn to Fujitsu (they do have business-class machines with big batteries, FullHD, WWAN) and they probably have better fan control.
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kaawee,
Thank you for the considerable thought that you put into your summation / analysis and proposal for a change.
I don't agree that you are wasting your time as we did make EC changes on the X220 and T420s to change fan behavior (along with several other systems). However, not all customers agree that the changes made the system behave the way they wanted and were completely satisfied (hence some of the dissenting opinions expressed here).
We are interested in feedback on T530, W530, T430 fan concerns and we are investigating. It is possible that a future change might be made, but I cannot say for certain that it will, nor can we commit to making this change within 4 days (2 now remaining) from your original posting.
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Mark
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