Fan noise with Tiger

Hello to everybody!
I have an imac G5 powerpc bought in 2005. It's still running under Tiger.
I've been having this fan noise too, for several days now; It never stops.
I've reset the SMU, the PRAM and NVRAM too. Nothing has changed.
What can I do?....
Please help me!! Thank you
Patrick
PS: my imac is a W854xxxx, its mother board has just been changed.

eekfreak, click on the link in MGW's previous post to see if your comp qualifies for the AERP. If not, then you will need to provide details about your computer in order for the knowledgeable users to provide any +"homespun fix its"+ if any.
Which "model" & "generation" G5 iMac do you have?
Need this info so that the knowledgeable users can provide you with the proper troubleshooting solution(s).
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301724-en How to identify your iMac
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I'm the originator of this thread and I appear to have an answer.
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Fan noise with PB12inch?

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Did as you suggested and still cannot hear any fans. My first G5 unit was the same way till the logic board fried and was replaced. Now it sounds like a jet engine every time it starts to work hard. I hope this one doesn't turn out the same way. My first unit is in the shop right now for it's second logic board and a new power supply.

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@ homeyclaus, Hi.
> I get nothing of the sort with a vanilla T420, all-intel graphics ...
Machine better at thermals probably (slightly thicker, no nvidia card to generate heat etc), and the BIOS is different from the "s" and "si" models. But constant 4000 RPM and fan noise with these models has been an ongoing saga even in Windows. See the massive "T420s Fan noise Issue" thread - takes a full day to read through it, and "T420 fan noise ?" at:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T420s-Fan-noise-Issue/td-p/443569
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/T400-T500-and-newer-T-series/T420-Fan-noise/td-p/417971
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http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Embedded_Controller_Firmware#Firmware_issues
> I did notice that my previous laptop with an NVidia GS8400 discrete chip did run the fan pretty high though.
You and me both ;-) On my previous machine (Acer) from 2005 I had to undervolt both the AMD-64 CPU and the NVidia GPU, install extra passive cooling - copper fins, plates and thread - and build an electro-'mechanic' manual fan regulator to get the noise down to a bearable level. But I had fun doing it as well...
> Are you running the NVidia closed-source X server?
Nope. Haven't gotten to experimenting with that part yet.
> How is the system handling the switch-over from discrete to integrated graphics?
Handling? Win7P greeted me with something like a 1024x768 screen before I could configure the Intel card. Once done, I saw no difference (except less system heat) from running in Optimus mode - I'm not a gamer or 3D artist. Linux desktop works fine with its OpenGL effects when I set "Use VSync" to get rid of window tearing. I might never need to switch on NVidia again!
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Mac Medic, do you have a dual processor (quad) or a
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valevari wrote:
Hello there,
I'm very close to get a new MBP core i5.
however I've been a little discouraged by the numerous reports of overheating and consequent loud fan noise.
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I purchased the Yoga Pro 2 on Thursday October 17. I love the computer for so many reasons, (especially since it replaces my 4 year old Compaq that was 6.5lbs!) however, I am also having a few issues with it.
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I really do enjoy using this computer, but some of these issues really need to get worked out if I am going to keep it. I'd love to hear if anyone is experiencing anything similar, and if there are any good fixes!

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I'm still in process of trying to get a hold of Lenovo to swap it, but since they no longer sell this configuration, I doubt they'll be able to get me a new one.
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