Fat Player volume levels

Hi- I'm just wondering whether it's possible to set a volume level from source, individually for different songs in the Fat Player.
In my present arrangement, the four audio clips are for very different instrumental combinations and have different volume levels. So putting them in 4 different QT players was great because I could pre-set the volume fader on each one, for the opening volume.
I can see the advantages of the Fat player, but am wondering about this point.
Kay.

You can't set the volume for individual tracks in the player because it is using an XSPF playlist.
In professional recording we set the output level of each track to be the same and push this to the limit using a multi band compressor.
If your recordings are from different sources with different output levels, you need to load them into an audio editing application and reset the output levels to make them all the same.
To avoid distortion, you will have to reduce the level to that of the track with the lowest one unless you have some fairly sophisticated mastering tools.
The problem with applications like GarageBand is that people can make recordings without actually knowing anything about the subject!
Recording techniques and tools have progressed a lot in the last few years. When ripping CDs and putting them on an iPod, I notice a large difference in output levels between old and new - even between new and new!
Pop and Rock are usually pushed to the limit by the over enthusiasm of "sound engineers" whose clients want loud rather than quality.
I was listening to an album by Alison Krauss recently. That's how recordings should be made and mastered! I compared this to Fleetwood Mac's Greatest Hits which, in technical terms, is horrendous.
Loudness, volume and level are three different things and tend to be misused.
Volume is passive and can only be cut.
Level is active and can be boosted or cut.
Loudness requires the manipulation of the individual frequencies.
You probably don't want to hear all this but a basic understanding of sound and recording techniques will help you to get better reproduction on your website.

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