Fault message in synchronous send step in BPM

Hi,
When executing a synchronous send step in BPM it is possible to handle application errors (fault messages) with an exception branch. But how do you get hold of the actual data in the Fault message(faultText, faultURL, faultDetail etc) for further processing (mapping)?
Kind regards Johan

Johan,
u have to define another container element in integration process.
For that container element an Async Abstract interface has to created with falult message as the message.
Do u have the fault message defined already...
Also go through this thread.
Fault message handling in BPM
-Naveen.

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File async --> XI (receive async) --> sync send step to J2ee application (HTTP post) --> async response send to File
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Input:
Message type (same as outbound)
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Meher

I think the Problem is with the INTERFACE Determination.
You need a BPM for the above scenario, but not a Sync/Asynch Brindge
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Step 1 : Receive from File 1
Step 2 : Do Transformation from File1 format to J2EE Request Format
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Hi Mona,
SOAP adapter doesnt support fault messages.
check stephan's reply @ How catch the SOAP Fault Message ?
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Hi, Abhishek:
The reason to use Fork is that all the branches can be reached.
By using switch, it only judge one input value and only one condition turns true.
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And this is not multi-line situaion, because the messages generated are different types.
Your reply remind me to add switch inside fork.
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I am getting the below error in the synchronous send step of my BPM.
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The work item was forced into the error status.
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Hi,
e urn:Haworthinc.com:India_Tax SIAA_IndiaTax_DBSelect_TICUSEXT has multiple operations
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/2e/96fd3f2d14e869e10000000a155106/content.htm
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> 1. When I define a fault message for my synchronous
>
>    receiver interface, a fault message, coming back
>    would not be handled by my sync. Interface- and
>    Messagemapping, right?
> So how can I give the fault messageinformation
> ion back to
>    the sender?
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> 2. Will I have to define a second scenario for
> handling
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> (Meaning new Communication Channel, MI, IM, MM and
> and so
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Synchronous send step from ccBPM

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I'd like to ask you if you have an idea how to configure synchronous send step from ccBPM. So scenario is quite simple:
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Milan

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Fault message in synchronous scenario

I defined an integreationprocess with synchronous send step and an exception branch.
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Yes, I have assigned the same name.
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Then I manipulated my message mapping, so that an system error will be created.
This szenario works fine. After system error the exception branch was executed.
I´m truly desperate, because the Application Error don´t work.

Transport Acknowledgement in an Ansynchronous Send Step in BPM

I tried this scenario /people/michal.krawczyk2/blog/2006/06/22/xi-playing-with-the-file-adapters-acknowledgments for a file acknowledgement in an ansynchronous send step in BPM and it worked fine.
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Dear Bharath,
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The answer to this is....whenever you configure a async send step with "transport ack" it will never go into error..
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This should solve your problem...
do not forget to close the thread marking useful answers after your query is resolved
Edited by: Tarang Shah on Mar 30, 2009 4:10 PM

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