Faulty PCI-E slot on MSI K8N Mainboard

Hi
My MSI K8N SLI-F board seems to now have a 'temperamental" primary PCI-E slot. I have a 9800GT card that was working fine for months and then I got no video on reboot after trying to get dual displays up and running. After much troubleshooting and RMA'ing my 9800GT card I think it must be the slot on the Mainboard itself. My 6800GS which has a light fan on it compared to the massive glaciator on my 9800GT is working fine but whenever I put the 9800GT (original or replacement) in I get no video on boot but I can hear the computer and HD making all its normal noises and know its getting to the windows login screen. The 9800GT fan spins up then turns off or sometimes stays spinning. Both the original and replacement 9800gt cards worked fine in another machine. After cleaning out the slot and screwing in the card nice and hard it went again and ran all day but after shutting down and leaving it overnight, I got no video on boot again. I have repeated the reseating steps and have it going again. I can only presume the slot itself is now loose or the solder on it is failing or something. When the card isn't in just right and I get no video I also get both optical drives ticking / seeking like there looking for a disc about 10 times then the computer kinda internally restarts and it goes again with no video still. When I have the card screwed in just right like now it doesn't happen.
I examined the PCI-e slot closely again and saw these 3 solder points which don't look right could this be whats causing the problem?

Quote from: alzaeem on 17-June-07, 02:52:41
Is it ok if i connect my single GPU (6800gt) to the second PCI-e x16 slot and leave the primary slot empty? if yes then do i have to change the position of the switch between the two slots so as to enable the second slot??
why would you want to do that? it should work, but the recommended setting is to use the primary slot first (the one closest to the CPU).

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