FCE 4.0 And AVCHD Importing

I have been using FCE 4.0 for a long time and recently have tried to give Final Cut Pro a shot. As increduous as this sounds I have been told that one cannot insert text at random or titles other than (with respect to the former) what are in the provided templates. I can't see that as bening anything I should pursue unless it is errorneous informaton.
Note that the Canon R42 is USB with no provision for FW.
OS is OS-X 10.8.4 on a Mac Mini.
Having said that, I have a Canon R42 Camcorder and I was wondering how one imports footage into FCE 4? Prior to that I used a Sony that did not support AVCHD.
Also, are there any compatability issues between FCE 4 and the Canon R42?
Many thanks!
Ron

Below are the formats the camera shoots and most won't work directly with FCE.
This one should: 1920 x 1080i / 60 fps (24Mbps) Make sure the corresponding FCE Easy Setup is selected before starting a new Project.
FCE works only with interlaced with AVCHD 1920 x 1080.
BTW: I've used FCP X since it's release and titles are no problem. Most users are trying to work the same as legacy FCE/Pro and that's where they come to greif.
You can always ask for details on that forum.
Al
High Definition
AVCHD Progressive
1920 x 1080p / 60 fps (28Mbps)
1920 x 1080i / 60 fps (24Mbps)
1920 x 1080p / 30 fps (17Mbps)
High Definition
AVCHD Progressive
1440 x 1080 (5Mbps)
High Definition
MPEG4
1920 x 1080p / 60 fps (35Mbps)
1920 x 1080p / 30 fps (24Mbps)
1920 x 1080p / 24 fps (17Mbps)
High Definition
MPEG4
1280 x 720 (4Mbps)

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I have Final Cut Express 4.0.1 and a JVC everio camera.
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Sorry, I searched the forum but I don't think I found the one you are referring to. Can you give me a link?
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I can't seem to get the info I am looking for after several searches in this forum, but I assume this has been answered and am hoping to be pointed in teh right direction.
I have a SONY HDR-SR11 camcorder (AVCHD) and certainly appreciate the intermediate codec provided to directly import into FCE 4.01. What I can't figure out is a good way to manage media clips using FCE. On my camcorder I will likely have 2 or 3 events that have video clips and don't really want to start a project for each event then import the clips in batches so that my capture media scratch disk gets populated correctly. It seems the importing of events like in iMovie is more how my mind organizes....what are ways around this using FCE? If there was ever a program for a media manager, this one needs it!
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So are you saying that you want to store the AIC files in a central place able to be used by all projects? In this case, you could copy your original raw files from your camcorder to the computer, and then use Log and Transfer to point to them in different projects when you want to use them. However, this is not very practical as it will import more than one of each clip to AIC, resulting in large file sizes.
You could also import them all once into one project, and then rename the folder in Capture Scratch where they are stored to make it more memorable. You could then delete the original project, and just import the AIC files from that folder to any project in the future. Since FCE simply "points" to the original media (unlike iMovie 06, for example, which creates a separate movie folder for the media included in each project), importing like this would mean you only have one copy of each AIC file, for use with any project. You could accomplish the same thing by copying the footage in the browser of one project to the browser of another.
I'm not exactly sure if this was the question you were asking, but I hope I was of help.

AVCHD import locks up on iMovie '09, but same clip works on Final Cut Exp.

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AppleMan1958 wrote:
It is great that you have FCE to preserve the five clips.
Yes, thankfully I thought about this while at work today, and gave FCE a try when I got home. I was about ready to give up.
I recommend that every time you make a disk image and test that it will mount, you go ahead and use the camera to reformat the memory stick. This way it does not get fragmented, etc.
Always. I travel with four 4GB memory sticks, and one 8GB. I try to only use the 4s, since they will fit on a DVD-R. The 8GB is just for when I know I'm going to record something too long (long show at Disneyland, etc.)
Personally, I am sticking with the disk image method because those should work with any program (like FCE). I fear that the archival method might only work with iMovie. If you have both, you might try opening an archive in FCE and see if it works.
That's a very good point, since the previous iMovie could not import from a directory. However, it looks like you can just copy the raw files to a disk image and mount that for the old iMovie to recognize it (and probably FCE). I will have to give that a try.
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Newbie with premier pro on a mac and AVCHD

hello all
my head is swirling with all the info on this forum, so I'm hoping someone can answer a few questions.
first my system - new macbook pro 2.4 ghz intel core 2 duo, 2 gb of ram, mac osx 10.5.5. I run in "hi performance" mode, for maximum video performance.
premier pro CS4.0.0
camera: canon hf11 vixia
drive where I'm parking the video: g tech g raid 1 terrabyte, FW800.
so people tell me that my system is plenty powerful enough to playback my vids in the timeline without stuttering.
I'm shooting at 24p with the CINE preset on the camera. resolution is set at FXP, which is 1920x1080, 17 mbps.
I copy the MTS files from the camera over to the raid in the finder. then I create a new project, and in the new sequence dialog, I select the AVCHD 1080 24p. the preset info is: For editing AVCHD Formats recorded in 1920x1080 square pixels (non-anamorphic). 16:9 progressive-scan 1080p HD video at 23.976 frames per second. 48kHz audio.
so far so good
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first problem is - the clips are listed as 29.97 in the project window.
2nd problem, when I drag them into the sequence window and playback, they stutter.
I'm guessing that because premiere thinks that they are 29.97 and my sequence is set at 24, it's trying to fix it as it goes and that's causing the stuttering. this might explain why they play fine in a source window, but stutter in a sequence window, even with no edits. but maybe I'm wrong.
3rd problem - every time I do an export across a seam, it crashes, or only exports the sequence up to the edit, then stops. (the canon splits the video into 1.9 gig chunks, so you end up with multiple MTS files if it's a long clip).
can anyone help?
thanks
gh

Don't shoot the messenger because he is bearing bad news!
Get a more powerful computer. The one you have is way underpowered for AVCHD material. Your processor is too slow, you do not have sufficient memory, your disk configuration is below standard. That about sums it up.
Bet your salesperson never told you that next to the camera, you needed a new computer...?
He is eagerly awaiting your return to the shop and has already prepared your order. All you have to do is sign and pay....
PS. Even on 8-core Macs with 16 GB RAM, people are struggling with AVCHD.

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I am not sure where the problem may be. I record onto the sd card (16gb sandisk extreme class 10, 45mb/s) from brand new canon m500. Card is read in FCP X and can import but when I play back everything is choppy.
I am recording as avchd, mxp-used 60i frame rate & 30 frame both had same issue.
I tried clipwrap and that improved the first 5 seconds and then still choppy for the remainder.
When I playback the sd card inside the camera no problem-looks and sounds great.
If I look at the file on the sd card - after putting sd card in macbook pro (mid 2009-handles FCP just fine) or copying to computer it is titled as "private." I changed the permissions.
I am also using a canon hv 20 (mini dv)-absolutely no problems with import.
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Thanks Alchroma & digibudIl--Iappreciate the quick reply.
I was able to figure out a solution very similar to the suggestion of changing the playback & optimizing media. Here is what I set up. With these setings, the playback of the file before import is still choppy. After import it is still choppy until the background tasks reach 100%-next to the timecode. Once 100% then it playsback smoothly with these settings.
I was using the internal hard drive on my macbook pro. My workflow is to (sometimes) use the internal hard drive and then transfer to external hard drive. Other times import to external hd.
What was interesting to me about the import process is with AVCHD, is that FCP X recognizes the file from the sd card as an avchd file. I did not need to save the files to another folder, create an archive etc. I tried all these with the same result as the simple import in FCP X.
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Workflow for using proxies and AVCHD

I'm working on a 6 camera mulitcam project of a theatrical performance and I'm using Premiere CC. The footage is all spanned AVCHD from Canon Vixia's. My machine is pretty good but no way is it going to play 6 streams of AVCHD at once (I've done 4 and that was pushing it!).
I've done a little searching on the forum and found this post:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4877276#4877276
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- close your PrPro project, created out of original MTS files;
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Is there a better way to do things now, one year on?
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Hmmmm... still having problems.
I got back to work this morning (having spent most of the weekend and yesterday raking leaves) to find that all of the mts have successfully been transcoded into mpg clips. I added a new STREAM folder, moved the clips and changed the file extension to .mts. So far so good.
I decided not to stitch the spanned mts clips first because I'm on a Mac and I haven't found a good (free) stitcher. I have a nice Windows one that I like but i didn't have the time to move the clips to a Windows machine, stitch them and then move them back again. This may still need to be done because I'm faced with a new problem.
When I go into Premiere and try to import the mpg clips (now hiding under the .mts extension) I get the error "The file has an unsupported compression type". This happens if I use the regular import OR the Media Browser.
Any ideas? I compressed these in AME using the default "Match Source - Medium Bitrate". I used the H.264 format, not the MPEG2 format thinking that Macs like H.264 but I wonder if this is the problem
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Whilst attempting to import any AVCHD clip, I always receive a message informing me there has been an error during import and to check video carefully. Afterwards no imported video images are visible in the events list. i.e. the 'title' is there but no image(s). i.e. it looks like that the final part of the process which creates the small quicktime files has failed.
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I have a 1 year old Intel Macbook (2Ghz & 2Gb, 120 Mb disc drive) with the latest version of Leopard and everything fully patched.
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Hi folks and special thanks to those whom put forward suggestions.
As mentioned in my original post, the external Iomega Ultramax 1Tb drive is MAC formatted, (and journaled).
One consideration was wether journaling was significantly slowing performance, but according to everything I read, there is little impact.
I took an old 60gb laptop drive and installed it into an external USB2 drive box and formatted as a MAC journaled drive. I then did an AVCHD import using iMovie 08 and all worked fine. I also carefully timed the import and the particular clip took exactly 59 seconds.
I deleted the import, rebooted, formatted the drive as a MAC NON journaled drive and did the same import. A worked fine and it took a fraction over 57 seconds. i.e. the overhead was just a few percent for journaling.
At this point it seemed to prove that something was very odd indeed going on with the Iomega Ultramax drive. This drive is used for time machine backups and time machine had never informed me of any inability to write to the disc.
Using the built-in Mac OSX disk utilities I ran a 'verify' on the drive. Guess what... it came-up with a number of errors including bad structures. I then ran a 'repair'. Unfortunately it was unable to resolve the the faults and I ended-up having to reformat the Iomega drive, as a MAC journaled device.
Tried a new AVCHD import to the Iomega Ultramax and it worked fine. In fact I later tried running Time machine (which was now doing a complete first time backup of my Macbook) _at the same time_ as an AVCHD import of many clips to the SAME drive. All worked absolutely fine.
For those interested in such things, memory usage during an AVCHD import was about 650Mb out of 2Gb RAM and processor usage (Intel dual core) was about 74% in each core.

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Since it is not out I guess no one can say how well it will work with FCP although apparently it will ship with something to enable FCP compatibility.
http://www.google.com/search?q=xf100final+cutpro

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