FCE and FCP...

I have FCE 4.0.1 and was wondering if I could also use FCP 6.0.6.
My school has FCP 6.0.6 and I have to make several projects using FC.
The files would be saved on an external hard drive 1tb firewire 7200rpm.
I was wondering if the two applications are interchangeable in that I could edit one project on using both FCE 4.0.1 and FCP 6.0.6.

In general, you can open FCE projects in FCP, but not the reverse. Once you save a project in FCP, it's no longer readable in FCE.

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Maximum clip speed in FCE and FCP?

I'm currently using iMovie '09, which allows a clip speed increase of up to 2000% (two thousand percent). I'm considering purchasing FCE or FCP but before I do, I'm hoping someone can tell me the maximum clip speed increase. Just FYI, In iMovie '09, the slider stops at 800%, but a value of 2000% can be manually entered. Thanks for any insight.
Jon

JonVdG wrote:
Thanks Al. Just to clarify, that was FC Express (not Pro)?
Yes, Express 4.0.1
Al

FCE and FCP will not recognize LiveType files

I have FCE 3.0, also recently upgraded to FCP 4.5 (I work on both) Also upgraded to QT 7.4 from 7.0. The first time I tried to import a livetype file to either FCE or FCP, they would not recognize the files. They appear in the list of files, but are grayed out. I have livetype 1.2.1
Any ideas? Thanks.

I notice no one is able to answer this...doesn't anyone have any ideas?
Thanks,
C

Compatability between FCE and FCP

Hi all,
We run a number of copies of (Non-Universal) FCP on G5s. We ahve a client who wants to do some tinkering of their own to some edits and has an Intel Macbook. A universal copy of FCE seems to be the answer for them as long as:
1. FCE can use the projects / sequences /media created in FCP
2. FCP can use the projects / sequences /media created in FCE
3. There are no issues with one being the Universal and the other not.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Ben

Hi all,
We run a number of copies of (Non-Universal) FCP on
G5s. We ahve a client who wants to do some tinkering
of their own to some edits and has an Intel Macbook.
A universal copy of FCE seems to be the answer for
them as long as:
Speaking from exprience using the PPC version of FCE 3.0 on an Intel iMac, when I launched it, I got an error message saying I didn't have to right processor/video card (?) and the only option was to quit launching the program. At that dialog box, I pressed the esc key and it continued launching and I had no problems using it. I don't know if that will work on a MacBook, try and find out. I removed it from my PPC machine before installing it on the Intel machine. Also for what it's worth, the license for FCP 5.1 (UB) allows for a single install on a desktop machine and a laptop owned by the same person and only one copy running at a time.
1. FCE can use the projects / sequences /media
created in FCP
I don't know. Haven't tried.
2. FCP can use the projects / sequences /media
created in FCE
I used FCP 5.1 (UB) to open FCE 3.0 (PPC) projects and found no problems doing so.
3. There are no issues with one being the Universal
and the other not.
Not that I found, but I'm a weekend editor and may not have come across any issues, a power user may be able to answer better.
Grant

Does the "Anamorphicizer" work for FCE and FCP?

I have:
Final Cut Express HD 3.0
iDVD 6.0.2
Just downloaded the anamorphicizer from this link
http://homepage.mac.com/sith33/FileSharing34.html
to help my project maintain it's 16:9 aspect ratio in iDVD.
Before I spend $30.00 for quicktime pro (so that I can start using the anamorphicizer with it) can someone tell me if the anamorphicizer works for Final Cut Express?
If you go to the page above it says, "Export your video from FCP like you normally would for going to iDVD," and does not mention FCE.
Or, is there another website to download a "anamorphicizer" version that works for FCE?
Thanks!
PowerBook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.4) Final Cut Express

I've had kind of iffy results with Anamorphicizer, but I suspect that's because I don't know what I'm doing (or am trying to convert funky file formats). But when I drop a file on top of Anamorphicizer, it automatically opens up QT Pro and instructs me to save the converted file. I think you might have to get QT Pro in order to use it—I'm not sure, but don't think that the regular (free) version of QT has the "save as" capabilities of QT Pro. (Could be wrong, though. . . )
Anyway, sure, if you save a file after it's been converted by Anamorphicizer, it should be able to be opened in FCE. (I save my files as a "Hinted" Quicktime movie.

Free Reflections plugin for FCE and FCP

http://tinyurl.com/2eccsq

Thanks for the link Tom! You have some great books on your website as well.
I wrote this plugin fairly quickly and am planning some great features for version 2. Here's a quick example of what you can do with it:
Thanks,
Trevor Anderson

Upgrade FCE to FCP Apple Prores etc

Hi,
I just purchased my first mac a few weeks ago. I was deciding between purchasing FCE and FCP, and ended up buying FCE. None of the specs I read mentioned the 1440x1080 resolution limit on importing AVCHD, nor did I read anywhere that the import codec was limited to a heavily compressed AIC codec rather than ProRes.
I've only had FCE since July 1. Now that I realize that issue, I want to upgrade to FCP, but called an apple store in the area and they said there is no upgrade path from FCE 4 to FC Studio. Is there any way I can do this? I really like the software, but these limitations were not mentioned. It said AVCHD support and when I read about that further, there was no mention of the bad compression and resolution limits. The footage looks about as good as 720x480 DV.
Is there any way that I could upgrade my FCE 4 to FC Studio and make use of the ProRes codec and I hope full 1920x1080 resolution?
Thanks in advance!
Adnan Hussain

Adnan,
I am very interested in your post as a new user of FCE and a AVCHD camera user for awhile now. Can you tell us what your camera records in? Is is 1920 x 1080 i60, something else? Also what is the output you wish to use...SD DVD, Blu-ray DVD, Apple TV or internet.
My experience has been that with AVCHD, and most other formats I suspect, some loss of quality is to be expected during the editing process. Comparing clips from the camera to clips that have been imported to editing software and then exported to some other format is not an apple to apples comparison. ( no pun intended ). How the clips are imported and in particular how they are exported have a huge impact on the final result. The Pro res codec in FCP may offer some higher quality output, but at a much higher price and depending on what you want to view this on......it may not matter. So bottom line, as Ian has responded, in your case switching to FCP may not help.
One final question is how have you tried to export the movie, what was the work flow you used? There might be some settings that you can change to get closer to the results you desire.

Importing FCE to FCP and G5 iMac to Duo Core iMac issues

I mainly film & edit weddings, but work on a number of other things as well. Someone told me to try hitting escape when I get the error message window, which worked good enough on a few of the projects, but not on most. Have been using FCP 5.1.4 for about a year now and opened plenty of my old FCE 3.0 files without trouble. Switched from an iMac G5 without a Duo Core to a new one (iMac 7.1) with a Duo core in Jan, and now having all kinds of problems opening old FCE and sometimes even FCP projects started before I got the Duo Core.
There's a project I created abt 8 mos ago in FCP 5.1.4 I'm trying to open and touch up a bit in the same version of FCP, but the cursor goes into a multi-color spin and essentially freezes up. I've also tried to open the capture scratch files from this project in a new Final Cut project, but they won't open and I get this message: "File error: 1 file recognized, 0 access denied, 1 unknown." Finally, try to open the capture scratch files in Quicktime, but get this message: "an invalid public atom movie was found in the movie". This makes me wonder if the captured video files might have gotten corrupted...any idea how or what to do now?
Looks like my current system has an ATI Radeon HD2600 card. I'm not super technical when it comes to most of this. Any ideas why it won't open or what I can do to get it to work around these issues? Having to re-load footage and start completely over on these sure would be a huge pain. Please say NO
Any thoughts are appreciated and welcomed.

I mainly film & edit weddings, but work on a number of other things as well. Someone told me to try hitting escape when I get the error message window, which worked good enough on a few of the projects, but not on most. Have been using FCP 5.1.4 for about a year now and opened plenty of my old FCE 3.0 files without trouble. Switched from an iMac G5 without a Duo Core to a new one (iMac 7.1) with a Duo core in Jan, and now having all kinds of problems opening old FCE and sometimes even FCP projects started before I got the Duo Core.
There's a project I created abt 8 mos ago in FCP 5.1.4 I'm trying to open and touch up a bit in the same version of FCP, but the cursor goes into a multi-color spin and essentially freezes up. I've also tried to open the capture scratch files from this project in a new Final Cut project, but they won't open and I get this message: "File error: 1 file recognized, 0 access denied, 1 unknown." Finally, try to open the capture scratch files in Quicktime, but get this message: "an invalid public atom movie was found in the movie". This makes me wonder if the captured video files might have gotten corrupted...any idea how or what to do now?
Looks like my current system has an ATI Radeon HD2600 card. I'm not super technical when it comes to most of this. Any ideas why it won't open or what I can do to get it to work around these issues? Having to re-load footage and start completely over on these sure would be a huge pain. Please say NO
Any thoughts are appreciated and welcomed.

Can I digitize in FCE and then transfer these into FCP?

Hi,
I have FCE 4 at the moment and looking to get FCP shortly. But I have some footage that I'd really like to get digitized now while waiting for FCP. Can I digitize in FCE and then import into FCP?
Thanks

Hey Tom,
Thanks for that. So does edited stuff open perfectly in FCP, or are there any potential problems?

New 13" MacBook Pro and FCP Express?

Is the new 13" MBP OK for light video editing with iMovie or FCP Express and little photo editing with Photoshop Elements?
For video I use Panasonic AG-HMC40 AVCCAM HD.
Thanks!

Graphics.
However, as I keep telling everyone, I have an almost prehistoric 2004 G4 eMac (1.25GHz 768MB RAM and 32MB VRAM) which ran and still does run, FCE 4 and FCP 6 perfectly well.
The only minor problem was that the new FxPlug effects did not work, but with 200 other effects there was still plenty to keep anyone happy.
Your setup will not have that problem and even though it isn't the latest iteration it should still be excellent for the job.
Message was edited by: Ian R. Brown

Is FCE or FCP the one for me?

Hi,
I'm new to the video editing world, and my main reason for getting into it at all is to prepare DVD demo reels of my film score work. All of my source material is QT movies.
I recently assembled just such a reel using iMovie. Got quite the education in basic techniques of assembling footage, adding titles, transitions, etc. But I also quickly realized that I'm going to need a more "pro" program to do this kind of work more quickly and efficiently (also, once in iMovie, the picture quality went into the toilet for some reason). So I'm considering some version or other of FC.
I'm a music composer first and foremost, and aside from the need to generate promotional materials like my demo reel, I can't make it my life's work to learn a whole new skill. But I do know I need a better tool to dot he job. So I'm looking for advice on what the best program would be for me: FCE or FCP.
I'm going to assume (hopefully correctly) that anything I can do in iMovie can be done in some version of FC. So here's a list of what I'd be looking to achieve from FC. Which is best for me, and, are these things possible?
1. when clips are imported that the picture quality remains identical to the source
2. ability to mix QT clips at different frame rates (24 fps and 29.97)
3. have multiple tracks of video and audio
4. ability to add video clips and lock them to the timeline so that their placement is more or less permanent (unless I decide later to "unlock" them) and, that their position won't be moved or "rippled" when I edit other clips
5. ability to maintain permanent lock between video and audio extracted from the video file (iMovie isn't predictable in this aspect)
6. ability to edit audio with a high degree of precision (see proper waveform displays, maybe even a tempo grid?)
Thanks to anyone who can share their thoughts.
-=iS=-

Hi Ian,
That link was very helpful. Just one more question... from my original post, "when clips are imported [into the program] that the picture quality remains identical to the source", what feature of FC would indicate that characteristic?
(To be more specific, all of my various footage is the output of various well-known animation houses, and is all top notch in appearance even in QT format. But when those QT's are imported into iMovie the appearance becomes grainy, backgrounds become splotchy and pixelated, and edges become aliased...)
Cheers!
-=iS=-

My report on AVCHD and FCP

After mucking around with AVCHD files on FCP and mixing them with HDV footage I have finally got a good working outcome which may be of interest to others wanting to do likewise.
From the same .mts file from a Panasonic SD5 camcorder I made 3 versions via Clipwrap:
1/ Pro Res HQ
2/ Pro Res
3/ AIC
I then placed each clip in succession on the timeline and carefully observed the result. I couldn't discern an obvious difference in spite of the fact that pro res hq was using a huge amount of memory. I therefore suggest simply using the AIC codec. Another point is that when I have attempted to import my AVCHD into FCE, and Pinnacle, WITHOUT using clipwrap, the 5:1 sound wasn't mixed down to stereo properly. Clipwrap seems to solve this problem.
So finally I can use AVCHD in FCP, mix it with HDV footage all, with a minimum of fuss and perfect stereo sound.
I hope this info is of use to others wanting to use AVCHD with FCP.
NOTE: I havn't checked with fast moving footage.The footage was of a person moving around in a well lit room.

Your eyes can see digital code when you're looking at a video? Wow, I'd love to have that ability.
Sarcasm aside, you can't use your eyes to judge the quality of your video, and you can't trust the display of your computer monitor. A well done mpeg2 can look amazing, and most people can't tell, or don't know how to tell, the difference between the DVD movie they bought, and the original it was compressed from. That's why home theater has become so popular.
The file size of ProRes is bigger because it contains more information. That's a no-brainer. Unless you're zoomed in all the way, looking at the videos on a pixel-to-pixel basis, you probably won't see the difference. Some will, most won't. But AIC is not nearly as high quality as ProRes. And you don't need HQ, as has be said already.
You can get portable 1TB hard drives with FW800 and eSATA capability from LaCie, and they're only slightly bigger than rugged drives. I use them all the time in the field, and I use ProRes and DVCProHD to edit.
AVCHD is an amateur codec. It's compressed. It was designed to make acquisition to delivery one step. (You know, film the kids in the back yard, and then show it on your HDTV so Grandma can see them). That's not what professionals use. Even the pros that use these cameras (mostly because of the price, and that the lenses are getting better) are capturing directly to ProRes in the field (using recorders like the AJA Ki Pro, or I/O HD to a laptop) and bypassing the AVCHD encoding altogether. The fact is, you can't improve your AVCHD footage. It will look only as good as it started, no matter what codec you convert to. You can, however, make it worse.
Early AVCHD used 4:2:0 color space, but the more recent AVC-INTRA uses 4:2:2. If you go to AIC, you're throwing out color information. That being said, if you can't see the difference using your eyes, then your eyes are not reliable. If you understand the reason why different color spaces work (in regard to the sensitivity of the human eye) then you would understand that we all know our eyes don't tell us enough.
But here's the real crux. If you're happy with the result, and it gives you what you want, then do it the way you're doing it. But I certainly wouldn't advise others to do it your way. It's not a better way. It's just an acceptable-to-you way.

DVD to ipod and FCP to Ipod

what free software can i use on my mac to rip dvds to an ipod format and then how do i get them onto my ipod. Anyone have links to such software. Also how can i place movies that i have edited in FCP onto my ipod. Thanks

Also how can i place movies that i have edited in FCP onto my ipod.
Edited material can be exported/shared directly to iPod compatible format using "Movie to iPod", "Movie to MPEG-4", and/or "Movie to QT Movie" options in iMovie, FCE, or FCP. Self-contained or reference files created by iMovie, FCE, or FCP can be indirectly converted to iPod compatible applications by QT Pro, iTunes, MPEG Streamclip, iSquint, etc.

FCE to FCP project transition

Basically, just looking at transferring all data from my vidcam's HDD using FCE and later wanting to use FCP to edit. this should be peice of cake right?
The only reason i'm concerned is earlier i started a project in FCP and finished in FCE and it WASN'T that pretty. all my cuts became one massive cut on the timeline :S
thanks for any help!

well thanks for all your responses.. kind of a long story what i have going on.
right now all im running is a 2 year old macbook with 4GB ram. i'm purchasing a iMac i7 in the next week or two. in the meantime however, i have my canon hg20 that has a bunch of footage that needs to be transferred as there is an important project coming up immediately. so my dilemma is that i don't currently own a machine to do a transfer via final cut pro (i need dedicated video card)..... :S

Wanting to run FCE or FCP on iMac 2.4ghz CD2 with 4gig RAM. Enough Power??

Considering what used Mac to buy to run FCE or FCP.
Had considered a Power Mac G5 with 2+ghz dual processors and 2G+ of RAM.
Thinking maybe an iMac with Intel and equivalent power would be better (because of the Intel rather than PowerPC)
Thoughts?
Advice?
Thanks

Al and Martin,
Thanks for your responses. I bought a 2002 Quicksilver, not knowing what I was looking for, and the harddrive crashed immediately (message from God?). I was going to upgrade to a nice G5 but now I think there is no point and am trying to get something with an Intel. At this point, the budget has been reduced to 500 or less. I know there are some iMacs out there for less I just have to find the right one...
I'd like Dual 2hz with at least 2G of RAM. You think 2G is enough? I'll mainly be editing simple projects like DOCS and short narratives. No special effects, etc

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