FCE Compatibility with AVCHD Format

Does anyone know if Apple has announced, or if we should otherwise expect, updates for FCE or FCP to be compatible with the AVCHD format a few newer cameras are starting to use?

I doubt you're right, but then we'd be speculating.

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Anyone knows how to export the edited file in the highest/closest quality of AVCHD on a DVD media? I tried all output and it seems the AVCHD quality is still superior when played in my Sony BD350 Blu-ray player. Thanks!

Hi(Bonjour)!
Here's my workflow to produce Blu-ray format DVD:
I shoot in HDV and edit into a 1080i60 AIC sequence. This process should work with AVCHD too.
Save the movie to quicktime. No conversion.
Drop the movie into toast with the HD plugin installed...(Toast 10 is available now)
http://www.roxio.com/enu/products/toast/plugin/overview.html
I burn a maximum of 20 minutes on a single layer DVD at 1080p in blu-ray tab in toast on my G5 2.3 dual 4.5 Go Ram, dual layer factory installed DVD burner.
Sorry, in my tests, menus are designed by roxio and there is issue with them and the looping feature, so I stay with the autoplay no menu. The latest PS3 firmware update may solve this issue.
I play the blu-ray DVD on a Playstation 3 perfectly.
You can also burn DiVX format in toast, but the res is limited to 720p. I encountered some playback problems with this format, but it is okay on PS3.
See those link about Blu-Ray authoring, they give a general idea on the workflow and option for BR burners and players:
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/taming_the_wildblu.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/taming_the_wild_blu2.html
http://www.kenstone.net/fcphomepage/blu-ray_fcpfields.html
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Does iMovie work with AVCHD format on mac book pro 10.8.2

Does iMovie work with AVCHD on mac book pro 10.8.2? Getting quit unexpectedly error, after 25 minutes of using.

Check to make sure that your TV is set to the HDMI input that you're using.

How to export/convert FCE movies into AVCHD format?

I have read a number of topics addressing similar questions but haven't yet found a satisfactory explanation of why it is not simple to do the opposite of what the Log and Transfer function does when importing AVCHD footage in FCE.
The footage shot by camcorders is heavily compressed (my Sony camcorder generates 24 Mbps -that's BIT, not BYTE, per second- at its highest rate), thanks to their on-board processor (BIONZ in the case of my camera: http://www.sony.com.sg/microsite/dslr/technologies/bionz.html). Yet, when played by hardware (such as the camcorder itself) on a HD-TV, the movies look gorgeous. Hence, this is a perfectly acceptable compression. And it does not take an enormous amount of memory. For instance, a ~10 min sequence encoded at 17Mbps on my camcorder occupies ~2GB.
However, once imported by FCE, each frame is individually extracted for ease of editing, and the size explodes. So exporting the resulting edited movie (in 1080HD) as a QuickTime movie is a recipe for rapid hard drive saturation (and YouTube export failure). I have tried several codecs offered by FCE (H.264, mp4) but the resulting compressed videos are still humongous (North of 5 GB for the example I mentioned).
It would seem that what the BIONZ processor achieves in real-time should be within reach of a modern CPU at a much slower pace (we are used to several hours of rendering, aren't we?). Yet, that is not the case. Is there a good reason for that?
Thanks for your comments.

Tom,
I first noticed it when looking at the videos created by FCE (that was the origin of my post) played in QT. Usually I play them at the default size chosen by QT for my screen, which is something like 1400 x whatever.
The problem (in QT) occurs at any viewing size. It is of course less apparent at smaller size, but it's there.
Then having figured out that I would not improve the output, I looked at the sequence in FCE. Looking at the video played in the Canvas, the jagged edges are there. Of course to see them well, it is best to zoom a bit, but they are there at any size.
Having figured this out, I tried to reimport the original footage using Log and Transfer. The window that opens has a preview, and I saw the jagged edges there too (whatever size the preview panel was set to). I could not find any settings that I could play with to avoid this problem.
My naive conclusion is that FCE does not know how to handle 60i footage as "well" as my TV does. I am ready to believe that in reality FCE does a more accurate job of rendering the two fields into a single frame, but as a viewer, I prefer the rendering of my TV. And since both engines have been designed by humans, I would tend to say that the engineers of my Samsung TV had a better grasp of what is a good rendering of a 60i footage than did the engineers at Apple (or elsewhere) who wrote FCE.
Now, I may be missing some basic thing here, and I am ready to learn.
BTW, the jagged edged effect I am seeing is what is shown on the first picture of the wikipedia page you pointed me to.

FCE compatibility with Panasonic PV-GS180 ?

Just wondering if anyone knows if the Panasonic PV-GS180 camcorder with work with FCE 3 on PPC eMacs, and/or FCE 3.5 on Intel iMacs with integrated video memory?
Thank you!

I should work fine. It's a DV camera and has a FireWire out that you can connect to your Mac. Just don't try using the USB out with FCE - that won't work.
In regard to the camera, whether your Mac is PPC or Intel doesn't matter, nor does the version of FCE, nor does the Intel GMA video in the Macbooks and Intel Minis. If you have an Intel based Mac, however, you do you need to go with FCE v3.5 or higher.
It's a nice little package at a reasonable price, but if you haven't purchased the camera yet, see if you can find a suitable model with CCDs larger than the 1/6" CCDs that this one has and also optical stabilization. You will notice the difference.

I use to keep all my Mini DV Tapes WHAT now with AVCHD Format ?

I started shooting video way back in the seventies using tape and graduated to Mini DV in the nineties. NOW I have upgraded to a Panasonic TM700 AVCHD camera that records to flash memory.
I always kept my tapes as backups, never re-using them. Now with files on flash memory, how can I backup my unedited video shoots?
I am not keen on backing up to Hard Disks.
Should I just copy my originals to a BluRay data disk?
What are you doing out there?

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shooternz wrote:
Some thing to consider for a hobbyist.
Once a show is edited and the movie is made...how important is it to keep the original footage? (The movie becomes the footage)
As other people have noted, improved technology can mean superior re-edits using the original maximum quality sources.
For shooternz, a specific example - nearly 10 years ago I got a 5 minute sequence of a pair of Wrybills mating in the Ashburton River near Lake Heron, using a lightweight tripod in a full-blown Nor'wester. This was very shaky as gusts hit the camera, and the original edit was poor. Better stabilisation software - Mercalli rather than the original Dynapel SteadyHand - has given me a greatly improved edit.
Also I am a natural hoarder, and am paranoid about data loss!

Issues using Pro CS5 with AVCHD Format

I am using the trial version of Pro CS5 and when playing native AVCHD footage, the footage comes
out choppy and there is no sound.
When I convert the file to a WMV format, it is perfect.
I would perfer to edit the AVCHD footage in its native form. Is there something that I am doing wrong?

Bonjour à tous,
Petite question pour relancer ce post. Je monte du AVCHD sur Premiere CS5 et mon problème est que le temps de rendu est extrêmement lent.
Ma séquence dure environ 6 minutes et requière +/- 2h00 de rendu. Pourtant, ce n'est pas un montage très compliqué, juste un ou deux caches, une ou deux accélérations et ... 4 légers mouvements 3d.
Voici ma config:
2 Intel Xeon CPU x5450 3G
8 go de ram
NVIDIA quadro fx 1700
Windows 7
Mon CPU est utilisé à +/- 28% et 4,66Go de mémoire sont mobilisés
Ce que je ne comprend pas c'est que tout le monde a l'air de dire que le montage est plus fluide que sur le cs4 mais ce n'est pas mon cas... Dès que je mets le plus infime des effets, ma prévisualisation est archi saccadée, même en résolution 1/4
Yé né comprend pô...
J'ai bien alloué un max de mémoire à Première et Ae
Ma carte graphique n'est pas reprise dans la liste préconisée par Adobe mais Mercury est pourtant activé.
J'ai essayé de monter sur EDIUS 5. mais la simple prévisualisation des ruchs est impossible tellement la lecture est saccadée. Pourtant un de leur technicien m'a assuré que ma config est bonne.
Alors questionS:
- Ma config est-elle trop faible?
- Si oui, devrais-je changer ma carte graphique ou quoi d'autre?
- Si le problème ne vient pas de la config, d'où cela peut-il bien venir??
Un tout grand merci pour les pistes que vous pourriez me donner et pour le temps que vous prendriez à me répondre (si cela vous inspire...)
J

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Final Cut Express doesn't recognise it. Has anyone got these 2 working together ? Any tips ?
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No - I've used Final Cut a lot before, without this problem.
I bought FCE recently, and this is my 1st experience with it -
without managing to connect any camera to it.
I'm hooking a firewire cable to the computer, making sure the computer is restarted, switching the camera mode to play/edit, going through the
'easy setup' sequence: NTSC Firewire Basic (as well as the other NTSC
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still nothing...........
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Feature Request: Project Manager Trim Compatibility with all formats please!

It's 2013, Premiere Pro CC is out, and is more "Final Cut Pro" than ever (thanks Adobe), but there are still some basic things that need to be fixed. This is a DOOZY!...
With DSLR media being used pretty much everywhere, the inability to created trimmed projects using Project Manager for H.264 clips (and GoPro clips, and more!) is simply insane. Seriously?
Help me Adobe.... please...
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Actually, Kevin works right across the San Francisco Bay from where I live. So yes, he is here in the USA.
You will occasionally get some answers around here from people with Indian names, but we are happy to have them on the forums.
The conversation about how to deal with the various codecs has been going on for some time, and the more people who request the feature, the more likely they will get it done. I don't like to say that the squeeky wheel gets the grease, but pretty much? It does!
I know they are thinking about it because of some of the comments I have seen and emails I have received. It appears to be fairly complicated, but personally, I think it is well worth the effort.
I would like to be able to ingest subclips from Prelude without transcoding (I don't use Prelude because it is useless to me without this feature). Once ingested, if I only use part of a clip, I want it trimmed in the Project Manager to just the footage I might need in the future if I have to make minor adjustments. And yes, that includes handles. So if handles solve part of the problem, that's fine.

FCE 4 with Panasonic SD5

Hi folks. I thought I'd share my experience so far using FCE 4 with AVCHD material on a Panasonic SD5.
Getting material into FCE4:
It works. Just plug in the camera, go to "Log and Transfer," and you can select and import any video from the camera. It's also possible to preview and trim the material you want to import, but it's at normal playback--no quick scrubbing while you're still looking at native AVCHD files on the memory card. Importing/ingesting is done through Apple's Intermediate codec, which means transcoding that takes some extra time and a lot of extra drive space.
Working with material in FCE:
I'm able to work directly--no rendering required--on the material transcoded when shooting in HN and HE (1440x1080) mode. I end up having to do an additional render on imported material taken in HG (1920x1080) mode, though I'm not sure if that's unavoidable or caused by a mistake on my end in the settings.
All in all, I'm happy with the performance, and I'm glad Apple finally got this feature added to FCE so that us AVCHD folks didn't have to keep suffering through iMovie 08 or convoluted codec workarounds.

Hi dc John,
best regards from Germany. I have had the problem to get the data from my SD5 into my Mac Book Pro for a couple of weeks. Yesterday I saw your hint and everything works. Thanks again.
Now a new challenge is coming up. Everything works as long as I read my data into the Mac from the Card reader. BUT: I also copied the complete content of the SD card onto my hard disk. When I try to get the data into the Mac by log and transfer it does not recognize the .mts files.
Do you have any idea what I am doing wrong.
Any help appreciated very much.
Mac freshman
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Is Mac compatible with AVCHD video format?

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