FCE log and transfer goes from avchd to prores which then requires rendering down to AIC -- what's with that??

Someone gave me a Sony camera (HDR-CX160) to try to get some footage out of...
Log and Transfer worked fine, but the resulting files in Capture Scratch are ProRes. When I add them to the timeline, it requires rendering (Lengthy rendering), presumably to convert to AIC.
How can I get Log and Tranfer to go straight to AIC??

Do you have FCS or FCP-X installed on the same computer? Also, the HDR-CX160 is capable of shooting 60p which is not Log and Tansfer, or FCE compatible. You need to make sure the camera is recording 1080i60.
Anyway, try this:
Open Log and Transfer, and click on the gear in the upper/center portion of the pane to select preferences:
When the preference open, navigate to AVCHD Plugin and choose Apple Intermediate Codec.
Then try importing your files.
MtD

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AVCHD log and transfer - Only from a camera?

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You may fing this helpful:
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/ross_shane/tapeless-workflow_fcp-7/video -tutorial
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Hey,
So I was taking some video shots out on the boat with my Panasonic TS1 recording if AVCHD format (.mts). When I plugged the camera into my comp and used the log and transfer in FCE the videos ended up way sped up, like maybe 2X speed. When I view the .mts files the video is normal speed. Why is it doing this and how can I make it normal? I want the transfered videos to be the right speed before editing because I use the .mov files to view/send to people.
Also does this process give the videos the best possible quality or can I change a setting to boost quality?
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http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=9686343&#9686343
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I've recently upgraded FCE. Before the upgrade I had no problems with log and transfer. I have changed absolutely nothing on my camera or computer other than the upgrade. Now when I try to log and transfer the files are in the window but I get a red icon that indicates they won't download. Are there simple fixes here? I don't understand most of the terminology used on these sites. I just know that it worked before I upgraded and doesn't work now. Thanks

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Will upgrading my GPU to a ati 4870 5770 help with my log and trasnfer speeds..
No. Only processor speed.
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I'm still experimenting with workflow after starting to capture on an AVHCD card instead of tape.
I'm getting the shots into FCP ok, and have worked out how to assemble them so it's like working off tape rather than wading endlessy through scores of files.
But this requires renaming the files - which I'd have wanted to do anyway.
For back-up I'm then copying the raw contents of the card to a small drive before deleting to make room for new shots. So these files still have those strange numbered names that the camera makes.
At some point I will also empty the FCP scratch discs, at which time the card copy on the small drive will become my only source. So if I ever have to rebuild the project I'll need to relink to these.
In the old days we just redigitised the tapes and all was well, but I'm not sure what will happen when I try to re-transfer the AVCHD data from the small drive - as the file names now will be different. I presume I'll have to relink manually, which could be quite a pain and could invlolve a lot of trial and error.
I assume FCD can't reference some code which remains unchanged when you rename by any chance?
Is there something I should be doing that I'm not?
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Spectacular fail.
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I've tried finding the first and last clips and linking, but still FCP tellls me that the attributes don't match, so I've plainly got the wrong ones.
I reckon that if I still had the camera names in the browser it would find them ok, but I don't.
What does everyone else do? The only thing I can think of is to copy all the files after Transferring them in, and then renaming the dupes, but this would double the data storage, and I'm not even sure it would work.
I have the raw footage on disc and it will play just fine. And I have a healthy FCP project. Shurely they will want to dance?

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I rented a Panasonic Ag-hpx170 to shoot footage for my son's high school today. After filling two p2 cards with video, I transferred the content to my hard drive (exactly as described in Tom Wolsky's book, and as coached by the video rental company). I have two folders on my drive from the two p2 files, but when I try to bring them into FInal Cut Express (4.0.1) , I get the message:
"HUNTER INTERVIEWS CARD 1" contains unsupported media or has an invalid directory structure. Please choose a folder whose directory structure matches supported media.
There's a whole day of footage in there, and I'm panicked that I've lost it (and that the next two days' shooting will be ruined, as well).
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Does anyone know about this? If not, any idea where I can find out?
Thanks very much for any light on this situation!

Sorry if you didn't know about this, but the review says that when recording at 1080/50p Panasonic uses a proprietory codec... I assumed that would be any model they produce that records at 50p.
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Working with AVCHD: Log and Transfer FAQs

Disclaimer: Apple does not necessarily endorse any suggestions, solutions, or third-party software products that may be mentioned in the topic below. Apple encourages you to first seek a solution at Apple Support. The following links are provided as is, with no guarantee of the effectiveness or reliability of the information. Apple does not guarantee that these links will be maintained or functional at any given time. Use the information below at your own discretion.
Working with AVCHD: Log and Transfer FAQs
Log and Transfer was introduced to the product chain in Final Cut Express 4, and is the program's process for ingesting files in the AVCHD format utilizing MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video coding and either Dolby AC-3 or uncompressed linear PCM audio coding. The most frequently observed problems relating to the Log and Transfer process are generally quite easily addressed.
What should I know before attempting to ingest my footage?
The following facts regarding the Log and Transfer process were adapted from the [Apple Knowledge Base article|http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24840?viewlocale=en_US] on transferring AVCHD in Final Cut Pro 6.0.1 but still hold true for the current version of FCE:
AVCHD support is available only on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
AVCHD camcorders typically connect to computers via USB 2.0, not FireWire.
DVD-based AVCHD camcorders are not supported in Mac OS X 10.4 or earlier.
Standard definition video recorded with AVCHD camcorders cannot be accessed in the Log and Transfer window. SD and HD clips should not be mixed on the same HDD.
Preview of AVCHD video in the Log and Transfer window is limited to 1x forward playback. Scrubbing the playhead does not update the video in the Preview area until you stop scrubbing.
When you choose to transfer AVCHD audio in the Logging area, audio is automatically mixed down to stereo.
AVCHD footage is not ingested natively but is transcoded to the Apple Intermediate Codec.
Apple Intermediate Codec files are significantly larger than the original AVCHD files. FCE does not estimate the size of a transcoded AVCHD file before ingesting, so it is possible to exceed the available space on your capture disk during transfer. Before ingesting, keep in mind that the disk space required is about ten times greater than the size of the native AVCHD file.
Which specific formats can be ingested by Log and Transfer?
Only AVCHD footage can be ingested through the Log and Transfer process. Other formats and variants such as AVCHD Lite are not supported. All video should be recorded in a frame size of either 1440x1080 or 1920x1080 and a frame rate of 25 or 29.97 frames per second. Audio recorded on AVCHD camcorders is generally at a rate of 48kHz. If your camera shoots in a format that does not comply with one of these setups then it is most likely not supported by the application and is not guaranteed to work correctly.
Which Easy Setup preset should I select before ingesting my footage?
It is extremely important to select the preset that matches your media before you attempt to ingest via Log and Transfer. There is only one Easy Setup preset that matches the frame size and rate of your footage. If you intend to ingest AVCHD clips through Log and Transfer you will first need to select one of the following presets:
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i50
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i60
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i50
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i60
If these four options do not appear under your Easy Setup list then you probably need to run Software Update and update to FCE 4.0.1. DO NOT cycle through the available presets until you find one that works - there is only one preset that matches your media and it should be evident which one to choose by the way it is named. Select the AVCHD preset that mentions your frame size and frame rate (i50 presets support both 50i and 25p frame rates; similarly, i60 presets support both 60i and 29.97p frame rates). If you do cycle through many options in the hope of selecting the correct one through guess-and-check you will probably have corrupted your preference file and need to [trash your preferences|http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2611] before continuing.
Why don't my clips appear when I open the Log and Transfer window?
Make sure your camcorder records AVCHD in a format supported by FCE4. It should be connected to one of your computer's USB ports (never connect it to an external hard drive or other external device such as your keyboard or a USB hub), powered on, and set to video playback mode.
If the camcorder +does not+ mount on your Desktop your USB port or cable may be malfunctioning. Try plugging it in to another port or using a different USB cable to see if it makes a difference.
If the camcorder does mount on your Desktop but the clips do not appear in the Log and Transfer window you will need to point the program to the directory that contains your media.
First, click the Add Folder button in the upper left of the Log and Transfer window. The button looks like this:
Then, you will need to navigate to the root directory in which your media is stored. Most camcorders call this folder "PRIVATE" or "AVCHD" and it should be located at the very top level of the camcorder when mounted. If your camcorder records to a valid AVCHD directory structure then your clips should load after the Add Folder process is completed.
I would like to keep a working backup of my original clips so that I can delete them off the camcorder's internal memory. How should I do this?
There are two main ways to keep a backup of your clips. The first is to ingest every clip on your camcorder through the Log and Transfer process, and store the Apple Intermediate Codec files the application creates in an easily accessible place such as an external FireWire drive. The advantage of this method is that you have the ability to open back up old editing projects, reconnect the media as necessary, and keep going as if you'd never left. However, due to the large amount of space AIC takes up (usually somewhere in the vicinity of 41-50GB an hour when transcoded from AVCHD), this is not always feasible.
Another often preferable approach is to copy over the root directory in which your clips are stored (usually named "PRIVATE" or "AVCHD") from the camcorder to your computer or an external drive. As long as you maintain the original file structure, you will be able to ingest your clips again at a later date using the "Add Folder" process detailed above to navigate to their new location.
My clips appear, but when I attempt to ingest a red exclamation point appears and the window displays the message "Error: No Data"
This is one of the most common problems that users experience when trying to ingest their media through the Log and Transfer process. Luckily, it also has one of the easiest solutions.
In the Log and Transfer window, click on the gear icon in the top right and select "Preferences" in the contextual menu that appears.
Make sure the video is set to transcode to the Apple Intermediate Codec and the audio is set to Plain Stereo.
After doing so, hit OK and try to ingest again.
I am experiencing a problem that is not covered in this tip or the solutions here do not work.
The best thing to do at this point would be to trash your preferences and start a new topic in the [FCE Forum|http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=936&start=0] with a detailed description of your problem. Check out the user tip on [Basic Troubleshooting in Final Cut Express|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2662419] for more information.
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Disclaimer: Apple does not necessarily endorse any suggestions, solutions, or third-party software products that may be mentioned in the topic below. Apple encourages you to first seek a solution at Apple Support. The following links are provided as is, with no guarantee of the effectiveness or reliability of the information. Apple does not guarantee that these links will be maintained or functional at any given time. Use the information below at your own discretion.
Working with AVCHD: Log and Transfer FAQs
Log and Transfer was introduced to the product chain in Final Cut Express 4, and is the program's process for ingesting files in the AVCHD format utilizing MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 video coding and either Dolby AC-3 or uncompressed linear PCM audio coding. The most frequently observed problems relating to the Log and Transfer process are generally quite easily addressed.
What should I know before attempting to ingest my footage?
The following facts regarding the Log and Transfer process were adapted from the [Apple Knowledge Base article|http://support.apple.com/kb/TA24840?viewlocale=en_US] on transferring AVCHD in Final Cut Pro 6.0.1 but still hold true for the current version of FCE:
AVCHD support is available only on Intel-based Macintosh computers.
AVCHD camcorders typically connect to computers via USB 2.0, not FireWire.
DVD-based AVCHD camcorders are not supported in Mac OS X 10.4 or earlier.
Standard definition video recorded with AVCHD camcorders cannot be accessed in the Log and Transfer window. SD and HD clips should not be mixed on the same HDD.
Preview of AVCHD video in the Log and Transfer window is limited to 1x forward playback. Scrubbing the playhead does not update the video in the Preview area until you stop scrubbing.
When you choose to transfer AVCHD audio in the Logging area, audio is automatically mixed down to stereo.
AVCHD footage is not ingested natively but is transcoded to the Apple Intermediate Codec.
Apple Intermediate Codec files are significantly larger than the original AVCHD files. FCE does not estimate the size of a transcoded AVCHD file before ingesting, so it is possible to exceed the available space on your capture disk during transfer. Before ingesting, keep in mind that the disk space required is about ten times greater than the size of the native AVCHD file.
Which specific formats can be ingested by Log and Transfer?
Only AVCHD footage can be ingested through the Log and Transfer process. Other formats and variants such as AVCHD Lite are not supported. All video should be recorded in a frame size of either 1440x1080 or 1920x1080 and a frame rate of 25 or 29.97 frames per second. Audio recorded on AVCHD camcorders is generally at a rate of 48kHz. If your camera shoots in a format that does not comply with one of these setups then it is most likely not supported by the application and is not guaranteed to work correctly.
Which Easy Setup preset should I select before ingesting my footage?
It is extremely important to select the preset that matches your media before you attempt to ingest via Log and Transfer. There is only one Easy Setup preset that matches the frame size and rate of your footage. If you intend to ingest AVCHD clips through Log and Transfer you will first need to select one of the following presets:
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i50
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1440x1080i60
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i50
AVCHD-Apple Intermediate Codec 1920x1080i60
If these four options do not appear under your Easy Setup list then you probably need to run Software Update and update to FCE 4.0.1. DO NOT cycle through the available presets until you find one that works - there is only one preset that matches your media and it should be evident which one to choose by the way it is named. Select the AVCHD preset that mentions your frame size and frame rate (i50 presets support both 50i and 25p frame rates; similarly, i60 presets support both 60i and 29.97p frame rates). If you do cycle through many options in the hope of selecting the correct one through guess-and-check you will probably have corrupted your preference file and need to [trash your preferences|http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2611] before continuing.
Why don't my clips appear when I open the Log and Transfer window?
Make sure your camcorder records AVCHD in a format supported by FCE4. It should be connected to one of your computer's USB ports (never connect it to an external hard drive or other external device such as your keyboard or a USB hub), powered on, and set to video playback mode.
If the camcorder +does not+ mount on your Desktop your USB port or cable may be malfunctioning. Try plugging it in to another port or using a different USB cable to see if it makes a difference.
If the camcorder does mount on your Desktop but the clips do not appear in the Log and Transfer window you will need to point the program to the directory that contains your media.
First, click the Add Folder button in the upper left of the Log and Transfer window. The button looks like this:
Then, you will need to navigate to the root directory in which your media is stored. Most camcorders call this folder "PRIVATE" or "AVCHD" and it should be located at the very top level of the camcorder when mounted. If your camcorder records to a valid AVCHD directory structure then your clips should load after the Add Folder process is completed.
I would like to keep a working backup of my original clips so that I can delete them off the camcorder's internal memory. How should I do this?
There are two main ways to keep a backup of your clips. The first is to ingest every clip on your camcorder through the Log and Transfer process, and store the Apple Intermediate Codec files the application creates in an easily accessible place such as an external FireWire drive. The advantage of this method is that you have the ability to open back up old editing projects, reconnect the media as necessary, and keep going as if you'd never left. However, due to the large amount of space AIC takes up (usually somewhere in the vicinity of 41-50GB an hour when transcoded from AVCHD), this is not always feasible.
Another often preferable approach is to copy over the root directory in which your clips are stored (usually named "PRIVATE" or "AVCHD") from the camcorder to your computer or an external drive. As long as you maintain the original file structure, you will be able to ingest your clips again at a later date using the "Add Folder" process detailed above to navigate to their new location.
My clips appear, but when I attempt to ingest a red exclamation point appears and the window displays the message "Error: No Data"
This is one of the most common problems that users experience when trying to ingest their media through the Log and Transfer process. Luckily, it also has one of the easiest solutions.
In the Log and Transfer window, click on the gear icon in the top right and select "Preferences" in the contextual menu that appears.
Make sure the video is set to transcode to the Apple Intermediate Codec and the audio is set to Plain Stereo.
After doing so, hit OK and try to ingest again.
I am experiencing a problem that is not covered in this tip or the solutions here do not work.
The best thing to do at this point would be to trash your preferences and start a new topic in the [FCE Forum|http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=936&start=0] with a detailed description of your problem. Check out the user tip on [Basic Troubleshooting in Final Cut Express|http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2662419] for more information.
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Canon HF-10: Log and Transfer AVCHD Problem

When I try to Log and Transfer clips from my HF-10 on my Mac Pro (Intel, Dual-Quad Core) I get the following message "AVCHD media is unsupported on PowerPC based hardware." even though the machine is an intel-mac.
When I do it on my Mac Book Pro (Intel, Dual-Core) it works fine in Log and Capture.
Can someone please tell me how to correct this issue on my tower? I've followed the steps listed on this document: http://discussions.apple.com/message.jspa?messageID=7194922#7194922 and it didnt help me.
Please help!!!!

Not until you've searched the data base on that camera with the link I provided. You probably should search this forum and the forum at http://www.creativecow.net (the FCP forum there) on your camera and on AVCHD etc. But sure sounds like a software problem... the machine seems to be sending the signal to FCP that it is a PPC and not an intel... so I'd guess that to be a software install error of some sort. But it's a guess... That's why I suggested the reinstall to rule that out or fix you up...
Jerry

Log and Transfer Crash FCP 6.06, from Canon Vixia HF20

I am having a strange problem in logging and transferring from FCP 6.06. I have been logging and transferring from my Canon Vixia HF20 without any problems for monthes. Then I have been granted access to a Sony HXR-NX5U NXCAM from work, I logged and Transferred from the flash memory unit HXR-FMU128, without any problems. But ever since I logged and Transfered from the sony flash unit, in attempting to log an transfer from my Canon Vixia has caused FCP to crash every single time. I then log and transfer again from the Sony Flash unit without any problems, after having dealt with the Canon transfer crashes.
Currently log and transfer from Song Flash unit always works, from Canon Vixia never works in FCO 6.06.....boooOOO!
Anyone else experience a problem like this?

Hi Eugene
Seems like maybe your FCP's preferences have taken a turn for the worse ... at least I haven't heard of this being a widespread issue so I would recommend you start by using a free app like Digital Rebellion's Preference Manager to make a backup copy of your current FCP user preferences, then use the same Preference Manager app to "trash" those existing prefs. Now restart FCP and see if the problem still persists .. hopefully not. If the problem is still there then you can use Preference Manager (again) to restore your previous prefs from the backup copy you made ... and you are back where you started.
Post back
Andy

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I am trying to Log and Transfer video from an FTP connection. Unfortunately, FCP does not seem to be able to accept my CyberDuck connection as a valid path.
Is there any solution out there that will allow me to directly Log and Transfer video from an FTP server?

Thanks for your response.
Downloading first works fine; I'm just trying to avoid that additional step.
I also don't want our editors to having to deal with an extra version of the material. Is there a 'delete after transfer' option somewhere that I'm missing? That would at least take care of the extra version problem.

FCE log and transfer goes from avchd to prores which then requires rendering down to AIC -- what's with that??

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