FCE4 error log and no avchd import (log and transfer)

Fresh install of FCE3, update to FCE4, update to 4.0.1 via softwareupdate but unable to import AVCHD material. Here's what the console says:
When starting FCE and while the splash screen is still visible:
25.03.10 13:20:17 [0x0-0xab0ab].com.apple.FinalCutExpress[1635] objc[1635]: Class ProMetadataQTMDStorage is implemented in both /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/MIO.framework/Versions/A/MIO and /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/QTM Reader.bundle/Contents/MacOS/QTM Reader. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
When the splash screen disappeared:
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:59854840AFAB_423D_9007252E4EFA55BE": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:E3A7ACDE8062_4DA1_8865E9C67BF1E777": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:65F1384FAF3D_4583_A6E7B9F3898153A9": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:5BDAB25811B3_4D8B_A951152C96943BDC": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:B42177EC8BF6_459E_BAF8561A2FE1CE09": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
25.03.10 13:20:21 Final Cut Express[1635] Exception thrown while loading plugin "FxPlugWrapper:CA0ADC917105_4F1C_8EEAD5A64B98E5DF": * -[NSCFArray insertObject:atIndex:]: attempt to insert nil
When opening "Logging and transfer" to import from my camera, sdcard or the avchd folder:
25.03.10 13:20:31 [0x0-0xab0ab].com.apple.FinalCutExpress[1635] objc[1635]: Class MIOGenericUserDefaults is implemented in both /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/MIO.framework/Versions/A/MIO and /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/PlugIns/AVCHD.RADPlug/Contents/MacOS/AVCHD. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
25.03.10 13:20:31 [0x0-0xab0ab].com.apple.FinalCutExpress[1635] objc[1635]: Class MIOObject is implemented in both /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/MIO.framework/Versions/A/MIO and /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/PlugIns/AVCHD.RADPlug/Contents/MacOS/AVCHD. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
25.03.10 13:20:31 [0x0-0xab0ab].com.apple.FinalCutExpress[1635] objc[1635]: Class MIOTimecode is implemented in both /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/MIO.framework/Versions/A/MIO and /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/PlugIns/P2.RADPlug/Contents/MacOS/P2. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
25.03.10 13:20:31 [0x0-0xab0ab].com.apple.FinalCutExpress[1635] objc[1635]: Class MIOGenericUserDefaults is implemented in both /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/MacOS/../Frameworks/MIO.framework/Versions/A/MIO and /Applications/Final Cut Express.app/Contents/PlugIns/P2.RADPlug/Contents/MacOS/P2. One of the two will be used. Which one is undefined.
When the conversion/import didn't complete:
25.03.10 13:20:33 Final Cut Express[1635] -[NSProgressIndicator animationDelay] is deprecated.
25.03.10 13:20:33 Final Cut Express[1635] WARNING: Using deprecated NSTreeController internal API. Break on 'observedObject' to debug. Use of this method should be replaced by NSTreeNode/representedObject
The following QuickTime components are installed. Only leaving the marked ones(•) didn't change anything.
/Library/QuickTime content:
AC3MovieImport.component
• AppleIntermediateCodec.component
AppleMPEG2Codec.component
CanonMJPEGAVI.component
DesktopVideoOut.component
EyeTV MPEG Support.component
• FCP Uncompressed 422.component
Flip4Mac WMV Advanced.component
Flip4Mac WMV Export.component
Flip4Mac WMV Import.component
• LiveType.component
SMIQuickTimeExportComponent.component
TSCC.component
Any idea what could cause it and how to solve?

Ok.. more testing and research.
Final Cut Express doesn't support AVCHD Lite.
iMovie (my version is '09 - 8.0.5) does import AVCHD Lite directy from my TZ7.
Since iMovie is nice, but offers a bit less then FCE I just imported the clips from the TZ7 into iMovie, moved all imported clips to the timeline and exported a Final Cut XML. This one I imported into FCE and voila.. realtime editing with FCE of the clips from my TZ7.
A bit strange, that FCE doesn't support AVCHD Lite.. but the way through iMovie is doable.

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