FCH9 and FBRA

Hi friends,
I am in a situation where users voided the check using FCH9 and then through FBRA reset cleared item.
Now when we created payment proposal it show amount as a 0. .
so will it update the check details automatically and wont print the check?
Please guide I am not sure about the situation
Its urgent
Thanks
Milind

its not
it says
Document includes already cleared items - reversal not possible
Procedure
If you really want to reverse the document with the number you specified, display the cleared items and reset all those items for which you can find clearing document numbers. Then repeat the reverse transaction.

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I need to put a Validation such that transactions FB08 and FBRA should not execute if Document Type (BKPF-BLART) is 'P0'. I wrote the below validation at Line item level in OB28 but it is not working. Would appreciate if someone can tell me where i am going wrong.
Prerequiste:
SYST-TCODE = 'FB08' OR SYST-TCODE = 'FBRA'
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Message:
Error: Cannot reverse document type 'P0'
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Deepak
Edited by: deepaksahu86 on Mar 15, 2011 5:42 AM

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I think the problem lies in check statement. as the validation works when i change the check to
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Dear Forum,
To clarify the below 2 transaction code.
1) FB08 and FBRA can be used only for open item managed account?
2) FB08 for open item managed account where the account still at open item status. correct?
3) FBRA for open item managed account where the account already moved to cleared item status. correct?
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Please also see my response to your other post.
1) FB08 and FBRA can be used only for open item managed account?
No. These t codes can be used for any account. With FBRA, you reset the clearing document (the document that cleared your original entry that has open item(s)). With FB08, you reverse a document. You cannot reverse the document directly with FB08 if the document contains at least one open item which is cleared OR if the document is sourced from another module (MM, SD, etc.). If the reversal is not possible due to open item(s) being there in the document that are already cleared, you first reset the clearing document using FBRA, and then you reverse the original document using FB08.
2) FB08 for open item managed account where the account still at open item status. correct?
See response to 1) above.
3) FBRA for open item managed account where the account already moved to cleared item status. correct?
See response to 1) above.

F-03 and fbra

hi,
what is f-03 clear gl account? what is the purpose of this tcode?
what is fbra reset clearing? what is the purpose of this tcode?
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rgds

Hi,
If a GL Account is created as an open item managed GL Account, the Account can be cleared for debit and credit entries and the net balance in the account can be known.
Examples of Open Item Managed accounts are GR/IR clearing / Accrual Accounts / Prepaid Expenses etc. In case of GR/IR clearing account, the entries posted are as under:
(a) When Goods are receivced:
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(b) When Invoice is received from Vendor:
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Here's ther problem:
I have 2 checks (#37931 and #38176) that were issued in fiscal year 2010 that have been lost by the recipient. As a result, I need to void these checks and reissue payment. The checks were issued out of company #####. At the end of October, Accounting Clerk did a posting to clear the intercompany account. This clearing document took her apparently over 4 hours to post, so it cannot be reversed.
However, this clearing document is preventing the checks from being able to be voided. If we try to void the checks, we get the following message.:
Document #### 2000004550 is not purely a clearing document.
Message no. FS 601
Diagnosis
Payment Document ##### 2000004550 is company code ##### also contains the clearing docuement number 100000777 in addition to its own clearing document number. As a result the documents cannot be reversed after resetting the cleared Items.
System response
The payment cannot be reset.
Procedure
Check the data entered and correct your entry, if necessary.
If the payment for document ##### 2000004550 is really to be reset, the cleared items 100000777 have to be reset prior to this
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hi,
as i understand it, you only want to void the checks and then reissue a new one without having to cancel the payment, right?
If yes, you can voice the checks via FCH9 and then reassign a new one via FCH5.
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Chaikaru

Using transaction FBRA error message f0604

I have done some clearing docuemnts b,
each of them clear more than one document with partial payment (fbz1)
I clear completely two vendor invoices with this method.
Then I have 3 clearing documents.
When I try to anull them I can only cancel one of them, the other I cannot doubt to error f0604, "Document number "X" is not a compensation docuemnt "
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Hi,
FBRA only works for documents which contain accounts which are maintained as open item managed. Normally FBRA's used for clearing documents. It can be used for reversal documents as well, if there are lines with AUGBL <> space. AUGBL is filled if a line managed as open item is reversed.
If the reversal document contains only accounts which are NOT open item managed, then field AUGBL is not filled in any line and FBRA cannot be used.
Check your reversal documents if they contain only accounts which are open item managed. In case you have accounts that are NOT open item managed, field AUGBL is not filled in any line. FBRA can't be used.
Instead you can reverse the reversal by use of FB08 again. For that message F5 361 has to be defined as warning instead of the default setting error, otherwise you will receive this second error message. The message can be customized in SPRO.
I believe this resolves your issue.
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FBRA versus FB08

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I'm facing an issue related to the combinated use of transaction FB08 and FBRA. Actually I have to modify a custom program that is used for resetting and reversing payment document. The program asd been structured in a way in which it first uses transaction FBRA for resetting the payment and then it call, separately, transaction FB08 for reversing it.
Since transaction FBRA is capable of handling both operations, reset and reverse, I would like to modify the program in order to use just this one transaction.
I would like to know if there maybe isseus related to this modification: is the revesal performed through FBRA more or less effective compared to the one performed trhough FB08? Is FBRA able to reverse only certain documents compared to FB08?
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Hi Davide,
from a reversal point of view, there is no difference between FBRA (if you choose the reversal option) and FB08. In fact, FBRA calls FB08 internally. The difference is simply the original purpose for FBRA, resetting a previous clearing. As a result, some documents cannot be reversed from FBRA (because they are not clearing documents, but pure JEs).
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you have two issues.
1) Checks printed and sent out.
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please tel me what is the use of FBBA and FBRA t codes?.

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FBBA
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FBRA
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Our client has issued about 3 cheques about 6-7 months back as settlement to an employee. (So in which case as per the system, it is showing as a cleared item).
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regards
sandhya

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Hi,
Actually you can use only one TCODE : FCH8 to cancel the check number and reset & reverse the payment document number. instead of using two tcodes FCHD and FBRA for one document number.
But in FCH8 also you have to do one by by. its not mass check reversal.
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I went through SPRO node for bank transactions (in FI). But i am not getting it.
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Edited by: senthil nathan on Apr 29, 2010 8:31 PM
Edited by: senthil nathan on Apr 29, 2010 8:33 PM

Hi,
if you have a look at your Fm then you realize that it calls FM CALL_FB08 or CALL_FBRA. Both FMs use BDC to perform reverse posting. Hence I would try to look for memory parameters (probably BLN, BUK, GJR) filled by transactions FB08 and FBRA.
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