FCP 7.01 Render times 5-6 times longer than FCP 6

I just upgraded to 7.01. I am doing the same job I was doing last week. Exactly the same. The week with 7.01 render times are approximately 5-6 times longer. How can that be possible? I have FC Studio, can I go back to version 6 just for FCP? I'm amazed because FCP 7 has been out for months. Isn't everyone else seeing the same problem??
I work to complete the same day. So render times increasing means that I can't work with FCP 7! Does anyone know if Apple are going to solve this problem asap?
The sequence is Prores 422, various media in the sequence: H.264, Prores, graphics.. but the point is that last week with FCP 6 it was 5-6 times faster! I've been working with FCP fro years. There is no doubt in my mind that the render jobs are exactly the same but FCP 7 is rendering them 5-6 times slower..

I have not had a similar experience but I do always follow these two rules whenever I upgrade.
1) Do not upgrade during the middle of a project.
2) Do a clean install, don't just upgrade the software.
I presume you have double checked that your sequence settings are correct? It could be a corrupt file and you should be able to determine if one particular file is the problem. You may have to render sections or single clips in your sequence to do this.
You may also want to consider that H.264 is not a recommended edit format. It is a deliverable format. I realize more cameras are shooting it and many people claim success while editing with it but there are numerous posts on Creative Cow and other sites that do not recommend doing it. They recommend converting it to ProRes or some other format.

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