FCP and media management

Hi all, dreaded but simple media management question here concerning rendered effects.
Lynda.com has no tutorial on this matter...
How do I manage them?
Assume scratch disk, rendered audio/video, autosaves, etc, are all on the same drive, everything going to the 'FCP Documents Folder'
Lets say I've got L&T AVCHD clips to prores lite, no problem, placed in the capture scratch folder under a folder of the project name I names (and that FCP has placed a folder). Lets say I'm using a bunch of Boris effects. I render them, view them, change them again, render again, etc, I've finished my sequence knowing that I have orphans of rendered effects ('orphans' is an avid term for rendered effects that are 'older versions', which means you can always revert back to an 'orphan' if you didn't like the new version of a rendered effect).
OK in the finder, I see the rendered effects folder under the name of my project, with all the rendered effects (and orphans, I believe). While I could do that manually in the finder I know it's not the smart way of doing it. I always want to think large scale.
Is there a function WITHIN FCP NOT THE FINDER that allows me to... I don't know... 'clean up' old rendered effects that are not media relatives to the sequence(s) I've selected of that particular project in the canvas?
cheers

Holy Grail of information!! I'm just trying to get my kiddo's room to not look like they vaporized out of their clothes every day!
But yes... there is the render manager under... um... tools maybe?
Try that.
CaptM

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