FCP and Xsan

Is anyone working with FCP and XSAN?
I working on building a new Server, XSAN system and I am curious on how your workflow is working.

Our workflow is working fine. This discussion is best left for the XSAN forum.

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File Permission problems FCP and XSAN

We have 5 Mac Pros connected to our XSAN (2 Xserves and 2 Promise arrays.). When a file is created on one of the FCP Macs and saved on the XSAN, the permission are OK (Individual - R/W, Group - R/W & Everyone RO.)
The problem is when a file, generally audio (from our sound booth or music from an outside source) or a graphic (usually Photoshop from our Graphics folks) is brought in over the LAN and save to the XSAN volume, the permissions are Individual - R/W, no group is listed and Everyone - No Access.
If they try work on something that another user started, they get permission errors if the sequence contains a file that was brought in from the outside.
I know we can change permissions on a file, but there are so many of them that it is slowing down production.
Is there anything we can do to either eliminate this happening, or have something like a drop folder they can place a file in to automatically change the file permissions?
Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
The MacPros are running OS X 10.5.8 and FCP 7.0.3 and the XSAN is running Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 and XSAN 2.2.
Thanks.

If files saved to the AFP reshare are inaccessible by the fibre clients try this in terminal on your AFP re-share...
sudo serveradmin settings afp:lock_manager = no
Then restart AFP (or reboot), and re-propagate permissions back to where you need them. This will hand off file locking duties from AFP to the Xsan, which will help keep your permissions correct.
JM
(Thanks to Shane for showing me this)

Saving Files on FCP 6.0.2 and XSan

Hello All,
We're running into very frustrating issues as we are trying to save and open Final Cut Pro project files. We are currently using an XSan with ACLs set up to store FCP documents and related files. The six workstations aren't directly attached to the SAN, they connect via GigE to AFP shares (not an ideal solution, but it's what we can afford right now). It should be noted that our setup is currently using the "Golden Triangle" of directory services (AD user accounts and groups).
In December we upgraded our XSan to version 2 (which was a nightmare in itself), and all of our clients were upgraded to 10.5 with FCS2. After the upgrades, a few issues have arisen:
1. When a user attempts to save a FCP project, sometimes they receive the error message that the file is locked. From what I read on apples support site, this is due to permissions-- a file cannot be saved by one person, and then opened and saved by another. If the ACLs set on the folder reflect the groups that have full access to the files in which the project resides (recursively), why is this an issue? Or is this just another case of bad execution on apples part?
2. After concluding a "Save As", most of the time the alternate project file is able to be opened. We've run into several instances, however, when the project file is a very small size (16k or so), and gives the error message "Unable to open project file".. and it's pretty much trash. In these cases, the autosaves are behaving in a similar manner, being a very low size and not opening.
So my question is, does this all sound like permissions issues.. or is there something inherently wrong with the XSan at this point (e.g. corruption)? How are other people using XSan volumes in conjunction with FCP 6.0.2/FCS2 to edit and store files? Perhaps we're going about the whole setup the wrong way..
Thanks for your time and any advice you can provide..

Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to reply.
We have six producers.
Each producer has their own storage folder on the SAN: Producer 1, Producer 2, Producer 3, Producer 4, Producer 5, Producer 6. Each of these folders are located in One sharepoint called "Producers".
So we have one main producer, Well call Joan Smith. Joan has full access, recursively throughout her folder, which is producer 1. Joan has interns that work for her, who use an account called pro1edit1. Pro1edit1 has full access to Producer 1's folders as well, recursively. Joan and her intern never work on the same project at the same time from two different workstations. Each project is edited by one and only one user from one workstation.
Either Joan or her intern logs into the Mac (using either Joan's username/password, or the intern using their generic username and password [pro1edit1]). These accounts are AD Accounts. After a login, OD sends MCX policies to the clients (such as auto-mounting the AFP share points ["Producers", for instance] with their username and password). The user browses to their folder. If they create a new project, the create a folder with the project name. They then open FCP and set the settings (scratch, etc) to point to that folder. They save a project file with the name of the project within this same folder, keeping everything as one general "package" in the folder. For instance: /Volumes/Producers/Producer\ 1/5-Minute-Piece/FiveMinutePiece.fcp. All of the other folders are also located in here, scratch disks, autosaves, captures, etc.
When the user is done, they save, close final cut, and quit.
The next say, either Joan or her intern come in to do some work on the project. They log into one of the workstations, and they open the file. They conclude some edits, and upon trying to save the file they receive the error message that the file is locked. They then save the file as an alternate filename. Sometimes this works. Sometimes it says it saves it fine, but the next attempt at opening the file yields the error that the project cannot be opened. Upon inspection of the file, it's about 16k in size.
Using Producers folder/sharepoint, the permissions are as follows:
Producers:
<AD Domain>\grpStaffProduction: Allow: Read Only: This folder. *
<AD Domain\grpProEdit: Allow: Read Only: This folder. **
<AD Domain\grpProduction: Allow: Read Only: This folder. *
<AD Domain\grpEditAdmins: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
<AD Domain\grpDomainAdmins: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
Local Administrator: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
POSIX:
admin: RW: This Folder
staff: R: This folder
Others: None: This folder
Using Producer 1 (within the above folder), the permissions are as follows:
<AD Domain>\JoanSmith: Allow: Full control: This Folder, Children, all descendants.
<AD Domain>\pro1edit1: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants.
<AD Domain\grpEditAdmins: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
<AD Domain\grpDomainAdmins: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
Local Administrator: Allow: Full Control: This Folder, Children, all descendants. [inherited]
POSIX:
admin: RW: This folder.
staff: R: This folder.
Others: R: This folder.
+* This group is used for another producer folder. This allows AFP to mount the share, and for the users to see their producer folder.+
+** This group is used for another producer folder. This allows AFP to mount the share, and for the users to see their producer folder.+
+* Joan, all other users in production, and their interns are apart of this group. This allows them to mount the AFP share and see which folders they have access to.+
So that's some more detail on our permissions and general workflow. We're up for suggestions. I appreciate your response!
-M

10.6.7 and XSAN 2.2.1

Hi all,
Is there anybody able to run server 10.6.7 and Xsan 2.2.1?

Not yet. We are still on 10.6.4 as each new update has had some sort of significant issue. These things don't directly effect the function of an MDC, but since your clients have to run an equivalent version of OS X or older, we haven't recommended that any of our clients update their MDCs to accomodate an OS update on their client machines.
10.6.5, Wifi: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2644274?start=0&tstart=0
10.6.6, FCP/ ProKit6: http://www.digitalrebellion.com/blog/posts/mac_os_x_10.6.6_breaking_final_cut_st udio.html
10.6.7, Fonts in FCP: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/2792142?start=30&tstart=0
JM

Problems with FCP and Nvidia GeForce 8600M GT video card

Not sure if this should be in the MacBook Pro forum or this one...
I am having trouble with the GeForce 8600M GT video card while editing in final cut pro (and after effects). I have talked with numerous people at applecare, but they say that they are unaware of issues regarding the video card.
The problem: It's almost like the card is unable to keep up with professional video applications. Whenever there is movement in the video I'm editing, I get lines across the screen. Not sure to how better to explain it than to say it looks like the video card is having a tough time refreshing. (I can take the same video to a much older power book, and it plays perfectly, so its not the source file.)
At first I thought it was an FCP issue, but I just started using after effects, and I'm having the same problem in there. If I edit in after effects, when I play it back (in after effects), I get the lines. I can then export the project to a quicktime file. The quicktime file plays perfectly (no lines) when not involved with a professional application. Then if I import the same quicktime file into FCP and play it back in FCP, the lines happen again.
Is anyone esle having this problem? Any thoughts? Any solutions?
Thanks!
Michael
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I had searched the macbook pro forum, but not this one. It seems that the "screen tearing" issue has been talked about a lot, so I apologize for the repetitive nature of the post. I will say that I am fairly shocked that given how many people have clearly called applecare, no one there seems to have a clue that there is a problem with this video card. I have talked with at least 4 different people in the FCP specialty group, and not one had any clue what I was talking about... 3 of the 4 were fairly insistent that it was a video source issue on my side.
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Choppy video in FCP and upon export to QT

I have been working with DV for years and recently upgraded to the Panasonic HMC150 (AVCHD). Whenever I worked with DV in FCP, there were little stutters in the video when playing a panning shot at normal speed, and I always assumed this was just a limitation of working with DV. Once I exported this footage to DVD or DV Tape, everything was smooth. The problem persisted whenever I would make a web video (either with Flash or MP4).
You can see some samples here of what I mean:
http://lastcuthomes.com/videos/3242MeadowlandsLane/
and
http://lastcuthomes.com/videos/1030HamiltonAve/
Now that I have my AVCHD cam, the same problem remains. Keep in mind that, I, as a camera operator am not doing these stutters and don't have Parkinsons! All of these videos appear just fine on DVD or on tape. The issue is with FCP and it's exporting.
The current method of exporting I have now is making the final video into a full QuickTime file from FCP. Then I will either encode with On2's Flix Pro or with QuickTime Pro into an mp4 file.
Has anyone been able to solve this issue? Has anyone else had this issue?
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Fcp and motion 3 with Yosemite

I Recently upgraded the operating system of my 2009 Mac Pro to Yosemite and consequently FCP and motion 3 no longer work. Can I do a clean install of Mavericks on a spare hard drive, install FCP and motion 3 on it and not have any conflicts with the other hard drives?

HHi Nick, thanks for the response. My question however was : can I have one hard drive operating Yosemite and another operating Mavericks with FCP and motion 3 without conflict in the same computer? Any ideas?

Is there a deus ex maquina for the hashed over HDV- DV conversion issues in the temples of FCP and Compressor??

I want to create a good quality SD DVD from 1080i/60 footage (20 minutes duration) from a Sony ZiU camera (mini DV tape) using FCP and Compressor. I can't do it. My hair has fallen out, but I don't want to throw in the towel.
I have imported the same footage with different FCP presets. The video quality in FCP is excellent.
But once I send the footage to Compressor. I end up with video exhibiting gradations of the following: blurry, jagged edges, jerky movement, darker color. Poor quality especially if a subject (kids playing football) runs fast.
The QT conversion process in Ken Stone’s article (May, 2008/updated in Jan, 2011) provides the most helpful information in getting a quality SD DVD. (Quality means looking as good as SD video DVDs). Except for the fact that the DVD is widescreen, the better quality alternative may just be to stick with the old 4:3 shooting, editing, burning methods that I’ve used for years. Unless of course, I am missing something. Hence my appeal to the knowledgable.
FYI Equipment/software: MAC Pro (OS 10.6.8); ATI Radeon HD 4870; terabytes to spare on 2 internal hard drives; FCS - FCP 7.0.3, Compressor 3.5.3, DVDSP 4.2.2. All applications are on Drive 1. FCP project files, scratch and other setups are on drive 2.
My current settings in FCP appear below. What's wrong here? Better alternative? Or it just may be HDV should not go to a SD DVD.
CAPTURE PRESET: HDV - APPLE PRORES 422
DEVICE CONTROL PRESET: Sony HDV FireWire
VIDEO PROCESSING Render 10-bit material in high precion YUV
I now send the Sequence to Compressor I've tried various settings, and the split screen preview in Compressor reveals on the right side the jaggy, blurred, darker video. Same shows up after submitting; and of course if I try to burn a DVD in DVDSP. I've followed Stone's Aug 31, 2009 article on Compressor 3.5. I experiemented with changes here and there without success (like changing field dominance of even selecting DV NTSC, etc).
If you got this far, thank you. And I really could use the help.
Sorry.Presets: Apple Pro Res 422 1440x1080 60i 48 kHz, HDV- Apple ProRes 422, Sony HDV FireWire. Capture Preset: HDV-Apple ProRes 422; Device control Sony HDV FireWire. Sequence Settings: 1440x1080 HD (1440X1080) (16:9), PIixel HD(1440x1080), Upper/Odd, 29.97, Compressor Apple ProRes 422. Message was edited by: Richard Fera

Michael,
Thanks for the helpful comments. Two tactics today helped. Where ever field dominance was indicated I made sure "upper/top" was the same everywhere throughout FCP and Compressor. That almost eliminated the jagged edges. Also, in the easy setup, I selected Apple ProRes 422 as the format, using HDV to ProRes HQ - Sony -1080i60. Sending direct to Compressor rather than through QuickTime conversion also help produce a clearer, less dark picture.
I'll try your suggesstions especially adding compression markers. I'll check back with you on results.
Thanks

Using still image in FCP and Motion

I'm using still images in Motion (and FCP) and exporting them to Quicktime movie files. What's the best size and resolution for the images and are JPGs or TIF best? I'm exporting for 720 X 480, and currently my JPGs are 4 x 6 at 300 dpi with a pixel width and height of 1312 x 2000. I'm adding some behaviors to the images in Motion (motion paths and shrink/grow).
My FCP project is setup as a DV NTSC 48kHz, 720 x 480, editing timebase=59.94, timecode Rate=same as editing timebase, compressor-DV/DVPRO-NTSC, quality 100%.
When I export to Quicktime the movies are very low quality--lots of noise and moire pattern etc.
How do I get the best qualtiy using still images? Is it my FPS setting, image pixel size, compressor setting? Also, do the movies need to be deinterlaced?
The preview in the FCP browser and canvas looks a little better but I do notice noise (moire patterns) along the sharp edges of the still images.
I've seen QT movies of these very same images (done by someone else who is no longer around) and they are much better quality.
Does anyone have an appropriate workflow for this type of project? The final movies are to be shown on a flatscreen monitor from a local computer, so the file sizes can be relatively large (300mb).
I can post an example of he movie files if that might help.
Thanks.
Pedro

David, your a genius!!! You posted your reply on my birthday, and I missed it until today!
Fotomagico is devastatingly easy to use and absolutely makes me want to cry at the amount of time I wasted creating photo slideshows in FCP!
I opened Fotomagico up and created a slideshow, one that I had already created in FCP and had take me FIVE HOURS to create... in TEN MINUTES!!!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaah.
I couldn't believe it. I thought there had to be a catch or something. This was too easy the quality can't be there... but it was. It's amazing and I can't thank you enough for all the future hours you have saved for me.
Al Romero

My new 13 inch Macbook Pro and FCP and FCS 2

Until today I thought I could not run FCP and FCS 2 Full Suite because of my graphics card in my base, stock, 13" Macbook Pro. -- I'm being told that my 9400M with 256 shared memory will run these applications. That's good news to me if it's true. What are some of your views from the Pro camp please. I can bring up the memory and hard drive. I just shoot and edit in Standard Definition with my Canon Optura 50 MINI DV Tapes and my Canon HV20 with the same.
I realize I am on the low end but will it work?

Some of it will, although you might not be happy with the performance of Motion and Color will probably not install at all.

Help with FCP and long project editing - Thanks!

I have posted several questions in this discussion group and in the iMovie group to no avail. I get a lot of answers, but not from anyone who has actually done any of the editing I am seeking. So if anyone has actually done the editing I am describing below -- I appreciate your help. Yes, I have searched the archives -- but again, I see a lot of confusing feedback. I have been working on this for three days now and it's driving me crazy! I have discovered that iMoive is $#@% -- and does not work with a long project, (40 minutes) so I am thinking about switching to FCP-HD. Thanks.
Here goes:
1: I need to transfer original master footage, 1080i HDV from a Sony HDR-FX1 to an editing program, edit the tapes (over 5 hours total) into a 50 minute "program". I then need to "share" or export the footage back to a new tape, using the Sony HDR-FX1 as the receiving camera. Simple enough.
2: I need to make sure the outgoing footage is of equal quality as the original footage taken from the camera. I am guessing here, that the footage can be edited in FCP-5 as "native" -- then transferred back to the Sony?
3: I am assuming that the native footage is just that -- and will not require the long process of converting to another format, e.g., ASI that takes hours to
render. (as in iMovie).
4: I am assuming I can edit and view HDV as native footage in FCP in real time, like iMovie, via firewire from the camera?
I really appreciate any assistance.
Chance

Welcome to the family, you'll be joining us soon.
The FCP product page says: > It features powerful new multicamera editing, native HDV support, ... edit everything from DV and SD to DVCPRO HD and fully uncompressed 10-bit high-definition video. Or work with new formats like native HDV (long-GOP MPEG2) and 50Mbps IMX... HD editing requires a 1GHz or faster PowerPC G4 or G5 and 1GB of RAM (2GB recommended).<
You seem to have the hardware including the Flux-o-pator, but, really, you want to talk to an Apple reseller who handles FCP and understands HDV via Sony. I don't like the way you're using "I am assuming..." You can't assume anything. Give them a chance to sell you FCP or Studio and go demo your camera on their system. You will have concrete evidence of the minimum machine specs and how well you can get your files in and out of the application.
Call you local Mac user group and try to locate other FCP users.
Try also the creativecow.net forums for Sony HD products.
Google your camera model for support groups.
bogiesan

Two Radeons 3870 with FCP and Motion?

Hi!
Have you tried to use two 3870 with FCP and Motion?
I just wanted to have all 512MB of video RAM for my canvas and use the second card with my Matrox MXO to display broadcast preview.
I know it could be risky, but as I remember earlier the problems shows only while rendering some of the plugins in FCP (my test was on 2006).
Do you have any experience with pair of 3870 cards?
I've just ordered two of them:)
regards
arti

From what I've read on this forum, FCP doesn't work properly with two video cards.
-DH

After recent QuickTime updates fcp and QuickTime will not open .mov files captured on my FS-H200. Iran

After recent QuickTime updates fcp and QuickTime will not open .mov files captured on my FS-H200. I put this onthe quick time thread and they sent me here.

and NEVER do a software update unless you've got a clone of your startup drive so you can restore your system to it's working state if something goes wrong.
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-2494

After updating to 10.1, projects/events that I had on an external HD are not recognizable by FCP, and only open up as TextEdit when I try to open them in Finder. I appreciate your help. Thank you.

After updating to 10.1, projects/events that I had on an external HD are not recognizable by FCP, and only open up as TextEdit when I try to open them in Finder. I appreciate your help. Thank you.

You do not open the project from Finder. You do that from FCP. They are in the library.

How do I set-up my memory amount for max speed for FCP and Motion

Hey all, I have a Dual 2.3 G5 with (8 Gigs) Ram. I'm working with a new client. I want to set up my memory or whatever else to provide MAXIMUM processing power for FCP and MOTION. Does anyone have any recommended settings. I've maxed-our RAM. My card is (ATI Radeon 9600-128MB of VRAM)
Is there a setting in FCP that allows more processing power to be applied to that application ?
Appreciate any replies

Most of FCP's speed in performing functions is directly related to processor speed. The only way to increase performance would be to use a Mac with faster processors. Performance is also related to data throughput, so if you're working with high data rate video formats, a fast RAID and/or SATA (or eSATA) media storage solution would help.
The exception to FCP performance is when rendering/processing FX Plugs; they are dependent on the power of the graphics card.
Motion is mostly dependent on the power of the graphics card.
There is no way that I'm aware of that you can speed up RAM. Having the extra RAM will just mean that you can successfully work with more applications open at the same time.
-DH

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