FCP Capture Dropped frames with advanced pulldown

Ok so here's my problem, I have Final Cut studio with FCP 4.5 and I'm trying to import 24p advanced pulldown media from my tapes, and getting a dropped frames warning that ends import; but after trying both cameras (the one the footage was shot with and a second one) and different tapes with normal footage and 24P advanced I still get the same error message. Then I went and replaced the firewire cable with no luck, and I just went and got a PCI firewire card qualified for video import same dropped frames.
Now before I put in the PCI card I clean installed FCP studio with no luck, I also went through and triple checked every setting in FCP for any problems; and I'm wondering if it might mean that either, I need to replace the media drive I'm importing to or if I need more then my 1GB of RAM?

I too am having the exact same problem with 4.5 (although no advanced pull down) and 24p. Last week I was importing fine, this week, dropped frames right and left using batch capture after logging my clips.
I'm using a dual 2.0ghz G5 with 3.5gb of RAM, 10.4.9, booting off a 250gb internal (48gb free) disk but using a G-Tech 500gb firewire 800 external firewire drive for scratch(400gb free). Media is miniDV, tape deck is Sony GVD1000 and I've tried my DVX100b for playback as a test. I've gone thru the FCP checklist and used Disk Utility and Disk Warrior (no problems there). I've tried different tapes (including ones that were successfully captured last week).
I'm suspecting that some recent download of QTime, OSX, or iTunes is at fault. Anyone else suspect the same?

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We've been seeing this stupid error message since v3 and it's never mattered in the slightest. It is always incorrect, anyway. The clips are always drop and the sequences are always drop. It's an FCP programming glitch/bug/screwup. Someday they may or may not fix the mechanism that triggers the warning.
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Well, there are lots of things that can cause dropped frames, but I think it's pushing the envelope to be doing HD on a MacBook. Don't take this the wrong way - I think MacBooks are great machines. But HD requires a lot of computing power and even though the MacBook is qualified for FCE-HD, given the MacBook's Intel GMA video processor/shared memory and 5400rpm HD, I wouldn't be surprised to get dropped frames with HD material.
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Hi:
I thought it could be a good idea to post this information for thos users of FCP 4.5 that still haven't upgraded their systems.
This information comes from this Apple doc:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=305284
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Issue
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Affected Products:
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This document will be updated as more information becomes available.
====================================
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Issue
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