FCP not making new clip on timecode break

I want FCP to make a new clip every time I start/stop recording...
I have "make new clip" set on timecode break in the User Prefs...
Why is it not making new clips?

Becuase it doesn't do things like iMovie... and there shouldn't be a TC break everytime you pause the camera. If there is one though, FCP will create a new clip there if the preference for this is set in the user prefs.
BUT there is a way to get the long captures broken down into subclips and they act much the same as clips in iMovie.
Capture a tape. Select the clip in the Browser, and then from the Mark menu, select "DV Start/Stop Detect. FCP finds all camera cuts and puts a marker there. You can rename them anything you want, select a marker and drag it to a bin, and it creates a subclip containing only the material from that marker to the next. This only works with DV=25 formats... miniDV, DVCAM, DVCPRO...
Jerry

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thanks for watching...
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i batch captured a few tapes to day and i noticed that FCP is making new clips at times. for instance i'll have a clip "dogs" in the original batch list. after the batch capture there will be "dogs" and "dogs -1" the starting time code of "dogs" and the ending timecode of "dogs -1" are the original start and end of the clip. so, FCP has spit this clip in two for some reason. why is that?
i thought it might have to do with the setting "make new clip on Start/stop" thats listed in the clip settings tab of the log/capture window. so i made sure this was unclicked and then tried another batch , also making sure to uncheck "use original clip settings" in the batch window. but, the problem still persists.
i have 30 tapes to digitize and i'd prefer the clips matched the batch lists. any ideas i can try to solve this problem?
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max

Is it a new media drive?
how is your media drive formatted? highlight the drive on the desktop and press command(apple)+i to get info...
Where it says 'Format' it should read Mac OS Extended... does yours say FAT 32 by any chance?
FAT32 is a different format that can be read by PCs and Macs... it can only store file sizes of 2Gb, so has the knock-on effect of causing FCP to break captures into smaller chunks.
If your drive is FAT32 you need to re-format it using Disc Utility. When you do this, you will lose everything on that drive, so back it up if possible.
If your drive is formatted correctly, post back with your media set-up, ie - what drives you use, how is your capture scratch configured etc.

During Import, scene breaks are not starting new clip.

Imovie HD: When importing from my camcorder (Mini DV) scene breaks are not starting new clips. The video is going into one clip which I then have to manually split each scene into individual clips before editing.
My preferences are set to: Import/Start a new clip at each scene break=ON..
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I am importing HD footage into IMovie HD I have selected start new clip at scene break but all it does is import as one huge file and does not start a new clip at each scene break. I know the importing has to be done at 1/4 speed because of my older mac G4. Is this the reason it does not start a new clip at scene break? Is there another setting besides in preferences I need to adjust?
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Rumour says that there is such a program on the PC-platform. But how this is done
and how many clips that a panoramic (panning) recording would split up into is
a bit of my curiosity.
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When I capture 24p material, it works great! It's native 24p and also +Non-Drop Frame.+
When I capture 29.97 material, even after setting the HDCAM deck to this frequency, it works terribly. I am getting 8-10 timecode breaks per tape. It's shot as 30p, and comes in as +Drop Frame+.
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it does seem unlikely, but sometimes FCP breaks up continuous shots when working with HDV. Most of the time, this happens towards the end of a shot, so I end up with 3-4 seconds of the first shot.
Very rarely, that happens with MiniDV, too. The TC seems to be fine, but there may be minor problems, and FCP seems to be a bit picky when it comes to that, so you get a TC break when (at least on your deck) there seems to be a continuous TC. And HDV is even worse than DV. But that's just my own experience. Maybe its as simple as your playhead being clogged up?
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Capturing some DV footage from camera, timecode break

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Bizarre FCPro Capturing Problem w/ Timecode Breaks

OK I've never seen this happen before - I am using a G5 with OSX 10.4.2 and FCPro 5.0. I am trying to capture from a DV tape with loads of timecode breaks, currently it is set to Warn After Capture on timecode breaks. For some reason when I capture I am having a problem - the entire tape will capture, but Final Cut will only be able to access a small part of it, stopping when a timecode break occurs. Like, I will capture one hour, and the whole hour will capture, but when I play it back it will only be two minutes. However, the whole clip will be on the hard drive - when I access the media file, it will be an hour long, and I can play the whole hour in quicktime. But when I play it in FC, it will be two minutes, or four or whatever. I've tried everything - importing the file back into Final Cut, changing the settings like nuts, I still cannot get Final Cut to access the rest of the footage. Yes, I've tried "Make New Clip" on timecode break, and that works, but I need to find a solution to this problem.
It doesn't happen all the time, either. Sometimes when I capture it will stop after the first timecode break, other times it will stop after several. Sometimes I get four seconds, sometimes it's fifteen minutes, sometimes the whole tape will capture without any error. I don't understand this problem - I've captured from this camera before to Final Cut Pro 4 and Final Cut Express on G4s and G5s and never seen anything like this. I hope I've explained the problem well enough. I would really appreciate any help anyone could offer.
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The camera is a JVC GY-DV500 MiniDV camera. I've captured to both internal and external drives - actually just yesterday this same problem cropped up on a different computer running OSX 10.3.9 with the same version of FC, leading me to believe it's a problem in Final Cut.
As for the timecode breaks, I'm not really sure to be honest with you. I don't shoot the video, I only edit it. With the type of stuff being recorded they have to pause recording frequently, sometimes they only record for a couple of seconds. Perhaps it is a camera setting, I don't know. But I still don't understand how this could create such a problem in Final Cut.
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When capturing FCP makes new clips

When I am capturing from a tape, FCP creates a new clip every time I pressed stop and then start again on the camera to change my shot. There are no time code breaks in the tape but I don't know how FCP is creating a new clip every time I change my angles.
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My crystal ball says you shot HDV ... and this is how FCP works with HDV capture, because thats how your camera works. The problem is that every time you start/stop recording in camera you are creating a new and separate clip that is stored on tape, even though the timecode is contiguous the clips are separate MPEG2 data structure entities. During HDV capture FCP is just copying the MPEG2 data structures stored on tape onto your hard disc (and wrapping that data up as a Quicktime Movie in the process) and every time the it encounters a new clip in the data stream then thats what is created on your hard disc.
If you do not want this to happen then you can use an I/O device to facilitate capturing your footage from your camera via a video output instead of via firewire. Matrox make very affordable I/O hardware with some great features ... check out the MXO2 Mini. Blackmagic's Intensity card may not be as feature rich but offers superb value for money if you are working on a desktop system only.
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Capturing across TC breaks, new clips with same duration so out is too far

I logged a clip that had a media start of 00;00;06;13 and an end of 00;59;36;04, making a duration of 00;59;29;22.
During batch capture of this clip Final Cut Pro apparently encountered a few timecode breaks, and since my user settings are to create a new clip at the break FCP created three new clips for me. However the master clips all had the same 00;59;29;22 duration, so even though the first clip only got ten minutes in before the TC break the remaining 49 minutes are in the master clip and they appear as black. The next master clip that was created from the break got a media start of 00;10;22;27 and an out of 01;09;52;18, a duration of 00;59;29;22. The next TC-break-created clip starts at 00;44;08;20 and has and end of 01;43;38;09, duration of 00;59;29;22. The third clip started at 00;59;42;13 and since its duration was also 01;43;38;09 its out point was 01;59;12;04.
So all of the clips were mostly black, and the new out points FCP assigned for the new clips were far beyond the end of my one hour tape.
The master clip's duration should have matched the amount of media that was successfully captured up until the timecode break, and then when FCP created the new clip it should have set its out point to match the original out point.
Can anyone else confirm this behavior?
I have submitted this problem to http://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

Hi wes,
i think you forgot to mention the version of fcp
as well as OS X.
I suppose you trashed prefs and all...
Also: if you import clips from the browser do they still have this black?
On finder level do the clips have the size of a 10 minutes clip or of an hour long clip?

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Just so we are clear - a start/stop and a TC break are not the same thing.
A start/stop is when the time of day is offset in the recording. This happen when you hit Pause or Stop. The clock will record a break in the time of day. This does not mean there is discontinuous time code.
A TC break is when there is a discontinuity in the running time code. This is most often caused when the recording is stopped with the recording head beyond the last recorded event on the tape or the camera is turned off . When recording starts again, no TC is detected or, if the heads are dirty, it may not pick up existing TC and the camera will reset TC to zero. Some cameras are very quirky about this.
FCP v5 and above had the feature to make new clips on Start/stop detect for HDV only. It has something to do with the GOP structure of HDV. The toggle to operate this feature is buried someplace in the menus. This feature is different than make new clip on TC break.
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I often get final picture edits on tape, and these need to be converted to QT for a chase computer in an audio post workflow. I'm currently using iMovie HD (v5.02) for this through a Canopus ADVC-100 firewire box.
iMovie5 always starts a new clip at a few seconds past each hour of import - so a 2h30m program would have 3 clips. This is a problem because to make one long QT movie takes a long time to render and occupies double the disk space. I've heard there are third-party QT file-combiners, but other than being nervous they'll skip a frame they still take a while and require double the disk space because they generate a new file. For programs shorter than one hour I go to the project, Show Package Contents, and remove the DV file for use. This skips the slow render process.
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Hello! I hope someone out there can assist me - I've been searching google and doing some trial and error, but cannot find a solution.
I have HDV video that I'm trying to capture into FCP 7. The footage has timecode breaks in it, some longer than others. I'd love to FCP to just gloss over them, ala capturing DV footage, but it seems it cannot.
Re-recording is not an option as the client doesn't want to pay for the additional work. The capture itself is a byproduct of the videographer not remembering to compress live on site.
Thanks for any help you might have!
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Can you get your hands on the same make and model camcorder that the footage was shot on? I know this was suggested in a prior post and you said that you can't get the camera. But, if you can rent a Sony HVR 1500 (I'm assuming it's a rental), can't you rent the same camera that it was shot in? It's not uncommon to sometimes have to capture from the same device that was used to shoot the video in the first place.
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Also, the free run time code setting on the deck affects where it looks for tc source when recording (it doesn't affect tc during playback of a recorded tape).
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