Fcp.. ntsc- pal

Hi everyone, I'm using fcp 8 to start off with. I had a customer ask me if I can make a ntsc video into pal so she can send it to her relatives in europe. I still have the project in fcp. Is this done during the export or is it done in idvd? thanks for your help.

As a QuickTime file?
The TV Standard does not matter. Computers don't care whether it is NTSC or PAL.
Does she want to send a DVD?
Most PAL set top DVD players can handle NTSC discs without conversion. Even the cheap ones.
If you must convert, Compressor can do it -although it will take a very long time to process.
There's no such thing as FCP 8 -maybe in 2011.

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What can I use to play out the tapes into my FC2.....
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Thanks for your reply....
NO the material is in NTSC and that is what i want to keep it in for NTSC DVD release....Its just that the camera i have is PAL....
And I need to find something with HDMI out to access the raw HDV format....
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that is such a .. <searching correct english word> hillarious (?) idea, I give you a star for that ;-)))
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Hello there,
I'm writing this thread on behalf of a collegue of mine who is in a bit of a pickle... I've been on the phone to him all morning and i'm stumped...
He's just finished offline-editing a new feature film by Nicolas Roeg (walkabout, performance etc) and needs to churn out a DVD for viewing-update purposes, here is the tech info followed by the problem...
ok... so, in FCP he has the sequence and media at photoJPEG quality.
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