FCP to NTSC monitor solution help required

Greetings,
Please forgive me, this is my first foray into owning a Mac.
I am getting started with Final Cut Pro, and am looking for a good way to capture analog sources, and output my FCP timeline to an NTSC monitor. My monitor takes RGB and component, and I would like to use one of those if possible.
I have looked into the AJA Kona cards, and they seem a little too robust for my needs. I won't be capturing HD SDI any time soon. The blackmagic solutions seemed interesting, the Decklink SP looked good, and the Intensity looked OK too, but I haven't seen too much talk on them. Are their any other solutions people are using to monitor their timelines? Currently I am just working with plain old DV.
Thanks so much for your advice,
David

The Intensity Pro may be just right for you with your Mac Pro. Very reasonably priced. I have the HDMI only Intensity card and it is nice. Not sure of all connections packaged with the Pro model, but good stuff. Intel units only for this product.
AJA is an awesome company and great products. I have the LHe and the tech support is the best. Like anything you do get what you pay for.
Good Luck
Z1&V1user

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