Features you'd like to see

These aren't meant as suggestions for a specific model, but more improvements for future products.
1.  Since most processors now have an integrated GPU, we're losing a lot of back-panel space to HDMI, DVI, VGA, and DisplayPort sockets.  FireWire, eSATA, and extra USB sockets are the casualty (admittedly, nobody cares about the first two, but I like having 8 USB sockets!).  Why not put the video sockets on a special card that sits along the main PCI-E x16 slot.  If you want to use the integrated GPU, you install that in lieu of a video card.  Side benefit for systems integrators:  No risk that some user will decide to plug his monitors into an inactive motherboard video port.
2.  Instead of a backup BIOS system, why can't they find a way to put the BIOS on a MicroSD card?  A bad flash can be fixed by taking the card to another PC, rather than having to replace a non-socketed ROM chip.  This would be great for boards on a long-lived platform-- if you bought an old board and a new CPU, you could just take out the BIOS card and flash it on another PC, rather than having to do the "can I find/borrow an older CPU to do the flash" dance.  In addition, having loads of flash space (even a 128Mb card would be cavernous for this purpose) would allow for cool stuff like "put Memtest86+, or a minimal bootable Linux districution, or other utilities on the card."
3.  On a related note-- if that's infeasible, can they put the installed BIOS version on the sticker on the box?  That way, you can check, before leaving the store, if the parts are compatible.  I know the 990FXA-GD80 "V2" product was the same board with a newer BIOS... but this would eliminate the need to do such an elaborate reworking.

Quote from: Hak Foo on 24-January-15, 10:34:38
These aren't meant as suggestions for a specific model, but more improvements for future products.
1.  Since most processors now have an integrated GPU, we're losing a lot of back-panel space to HDMI, DVI, VGA, and DisplayPort sockets.  FireWire, eSATA, and extra USB sockets are the casualty (admittedly, nobody cares about the first two, but I like having 8 USB sockets!).  Why not put the video sockets on a special card that sits along the main PCI-E x16 slot.  If you want to use the integrated GPU, you install that in lieu of a video card.  Side benefit for systems integrators:  No risk that some user will decide to plug his monitors into an inactive motherboard video port.
Many cpus made by Intel & AMD do not have an IGP.  (I actually search for motherboards that do not include an IGP.)  The way it works is that you buy an IGP cpu before you buy a discrete 3d card, generally.  Most people who buy an IGP do so because they don't want/need a discrete 3d card.  Some motherboards, especially those made by Apple these days, feature surface-mount technology, which means the cpus are soldered to the motherboard and cannot be removed/upgraded.  As well, when you add a discrete 3d card into a system with an IGP cpu, and you make whatever bios/efi adjustments are called for, the on-board IGP is disabled.  A customer who buys a discrete 3d card and installs it is presumed to know where the "video socket" is located--but even if he's not too sharp, connecting up the disabled IGP won't do anything detrimental, and if he gets no video because he's in the wrong socket he'll soon figure it out...
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2.  Instead of a backup BIOS system, why can't they find a way to put the BIOS on a MicroSD card?  A bad flash can be fixed by taking the card to another PC, rather than having to replace a non-socketed ROM chip.  This would be great for boards on a long-lived platform-- if you bought an old board and a new CPU, you could just take out the BIOS card and flash it on another PC, rather than having to do the "can I find/borrow an older CPU to do the flash" dance.  In addition, having loads of flash space (even a 128Mb card would be cavernous for this purpose) would allow for cool stuff like "put Memtest86+, or a minimal bootable Linux districution, or other utilities on the card."
Well, a UEFI is in a discrete motherboard chip for security purposes that would be hobbled by having systems load a bios from an SD card.  The bios or UEFI, these days, is the strongest link in the chain of security in a PC--for instance, UEFI "secure boot" is absolutely dependent on a set of inviolate UEFI instructions.  If a hacker can get into the machine UEFI/bios then he can control the machine, essentially, and remedies run at the OS level won't have an effect. Some OEMs like Dell ship machines with bioses/efi's that include links to certain kinds of diagnostic routines, however, so perhaps a Dell is more inline with your preferences than a discrete retail motherboard.  When customers buy components like discrete motherboards it is assumed by the manufacturer that they already know enough in general to have little if any trouble installing the board--otherwise, they'd not be buying a discrete motherboard in the first place.  Right? Makes sense to me...
As for knowing which motherboards support which cpus, well, MSI has an online list of motherboards you can consult, which includes a list of the cpus each board & efi/bios version supports.  References like these should be consulted prior to purchasing a motherboard.  And if you are in a retail store that is selling such motherboards, it never hurts to ask for that information in the store--assuming the store isn't completely clueless, they should be able to answer questions like that.
I certainly don't understand why you'd think that it's easier to have a second, fully operative computer system around than it is to have a separate cpu handy...  I would think the opposite, because if you are buying a new cpu and a new motherboard, then the chances are good that your *old cpu* might be compatible with the new motherboard.  At any rate, it is these kinds of questions the buyer is assumed to have the answers to by the motherboard manufacturers when he purchases a discrete motherboard--if you don't have the answers to these questions then you really don't even know what you're buying, right?  Someone like that is not going to buy a discrete motherboard because chances are he won't have a clue as to how to install/use it--I think that is generally a logical assumption. 
For instance--my motherboard is an MSI G46-970a with an AM3+ cpu socket.  When I bought this (excellent) board a couple of years ago, it was to replace an older AM3+ motherboard which was running an Athlon II (it could have been a PhenomII, as well) so I knew when I ordered the board that if I needed to update the bios to support an FX-6300--which it turned out I did--I would need to boot initially with the AthlonII, download the latest bios from MSI, and then install the FX-6300. That's what I did and it went like clockwork because I already knew what I might have to do and was prepared when it came time to do it.  Customers who buy discrete motherboards are expected to know certain things when they buy the boards else they risk buying/doing everything related to the motherboard erroneously.  Sometimes, though, that's not all bad, because that's how people best amass information and knowledge that is worth having. Nothing beats hands-on.
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3.  On a related note-- if that's infeasible, can they put the installed BIOS version on the sticker on the box?  That way, you can check, before leaving the store, if the parts are compatible.  I know the 990FXA-GD80 "V2" product was the same board with a newer BIOS... but this would eliminate the need to do such an elaborate reworking.
Doing Internet research *before* buying a product is always highly advised.  It's only an "elaborate reworking" when you do it the first time, because you don't know what to do and you have to learn your way through, step by step.  I can guarantee that if you retain your lessons learned that you will not make the same mistake again, but you'll be fully prepared when buying your next motherboard/cpu.
Good luck...  Computing is a lot of fun when you know which way is up--and I'll pass along a hint that has helped me enormously through the years...learn how things work as they work and not as you think you'd prefer them to work...!  Some folks spend/waste an enormous amount of time/effort in trying to make their hardware and software do what they think it should do instead of simply learning how and why it does what it does.  As you grow in experience you'll begin to get a glimmer of how & why things are done as they are done, and you'll come to understand that there are very good reasons most things work as they do.

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