Fetchmail, launch deamon

Hello everybody,
I do need your help. After upgrading to Server 3 fetchmail is not working anymore. The activity monitor tells me that the com.fetchmail.launchd (the lauchdeamon I created under ML Server and worked properly there) is running. BUT it doesn`t fetch any mail. Something ist not working properly.
First step: I compilied fetchmail newly under Mavericks.
Second step: I re-newed the plist for the launchdeamon.
But no success. What is wrong? Are there changes in setting up launchdeamons under Mavericks?
Please help.
Kind regards,
Robert.

You are trying to use a path that is nil. pathForAuxiliaryExecutables is returning nil. I'm not familiar with that message. There are a number of similar NSBundle messages you could use. Have you added a copy files build task to actually copy that executable into your bundle?

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