FI-LC legal Consolidation
we have two codes in SAP ECC 6 both are separate legal entities.Co Code A owns 80% of shares of Co Code B
what should be the structure from consolidation point of View i.e parent subsidary relationship how would this be presented in SAP for consolidation purpose .
Do we have to assign both co codes to single company.or two codes would have separate Company assignment
Requirement is separate financial statements for both co codes & consoldated Financial statement (elimination of Inter Co code profits & Calculation of minority intrest
Hi Pablo,
I´m having the same problem.
I do not understand quite well what do you mean by "entering a valid scope in the opening period"
¿do you mean entering data in any account in a opening flow o do you mean entering a value in a rateform?
or non of then?
Thank you very much
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Currency and Groups Dimensions in Legal Consolidation, BPC 7.5
Dear BPC Experts:
I am using BPC 7.5 NW SP03, and building Legal Consolidation now. According to the SAP Library,http://help.sap.com/saphelp_bpc75_nw/helpdata/en/bpc_nw_index.htm, it says in 7.5, the currency and groups dimension are required and should hold currency members and consolidation members seperately. I have couple of questions about this design.
1. Are GROUPS and CURRENCY dimensions both included in Legal Consolidation Application at the same time?
2. How to move data in currency diemnsion into corresponding members in GROUPS dimension?
For example: THe GROUPS member, CG1(its currency is USD). How to let data in currency USD move to CG1.
3. In Legal Consolidation data package, should I modify the prompt dimension from CURRENCY_DIM into GROUP_Dim?? cause 7.5 has CURRENCY dim in its package setting at default. However, the consolidation package is based on GROUP perspectives.
Does anyone give me any idea in it? I really appreciate your help.
Best Regards,
Fred ChengHi Collet,
Thanks for such a quick response. Based on your answer,
The group-type dimension is used for storing the group component of legal consolidation. The group-type dimension represents the relationship of entities for a given consolidation result. This group is consolidated in a single currency, so there is no need to have another dimension. As of Planning and Consolidation 7.5, you can continue to use the currency-type dimension for this purpose, or you can split it into a group-type dimension (type G) and use a pure currency-type dimension (type R) to allow reporting in multiple group currencies.
If at all I go by that will that be sufficient to have only Group Dimension and ignore RptCurrency field in BPC 7.5?
As of now I am having my Group Dimension looks like this.
Member ID EVDESCRIPTION GROUP_CURRENCY PARENT_GROUP ENTITY
G_CG1 XXXX USD E_CG1
G_CG2 XXX USD G_CG1 E_CG2
G_CG3 XXXX USD G_CG2 E_CG3
So now do I need to enter any RptCurrency Members under Group Member ID column to have RptCurrency ignored once for all. By the way our RptCurrency and Group Currency is USD only.
Please advise as right now we are not able to have Currency Conversion Functioning properly. I mean when I executed FXTRANSLGF, I am able to my DM status as Successful but saying 0 Submitted 0 Success 0 Fail
I am unable to crack this. I tired playing Groups and RptCurrency but same result. Successful but no records. We have maintained all Exchange Rates corrctly. -
BPC 5 - Best practices - Sample data file for Legal Consolidation
Hi,
we are following the steps indicated in the SAP BPC Business Practice: http://help.sap.com/bp_bpcv151/html/bpc.htm
A Legal Consolidation prerequisit is to have the sample data file that we do not have: "Consolidation Finance Data.xls"
Does anybody have this file or know where to find it?
Thanks for your time!
Regards,
SantiagoHi,
From [https://websmp230.sap-ag.de/sap/bc/bsp/spn/download_basket/download.htm?objid=012002523100012218702007E&action=DL_DIRECT] this address you can obtain .zip file for Best Practice including all scenarios and csv files under misc directory used in these scenarios.
Consolidation Finance Data.txt is in there also..
Regards,
ergin ozturk -
Problem with Legal Consolidation for Journal
Hi BPC Friends
I have the application icmatching with data and I have written other values with Journal.
I have run the package legal consolidation.
I have this problem:
for the value that I have loaded into the application, the logic consolidation works correctly, indeed it writes a new record with different datasource
but for the value that I have written into the application using the Journal the logic doesn't work correctly, indeed it writes into the database a new record like the original but with contrary value so I lose also the value that I wrote with the journal
Could you please help me?
thanks
regards
Michele MedagliaHello Michele,
Basically what ever data that you input in journal as long as the selection on xdim is fulfilled the script will run normally.
If its write in reverse and deleted your original data, it must be something wrong in your script, you can check at first.
If the problem still you can't found, can you share us a little about the script?
hope helps -
Intercompany Elimination is doubling after running Legal consolidation
Hi BPC Guru's
Intercompany Elimination is doubling after running Legal consolidation Data Manager Package 2nd time tripples when run 3rd time and so on..Only change is that for resolving an issue with balance carry forward, we had changed the datasource type property for the audit trail members that store the eliminated amounts ealier this was A (Automatic) we changed that to (Manual) M and this is causing the doubling to start because if i change it back to A then there is no doubling..but the eliminated values are incorrect.
Would be great somebody provides with their expertise.Hi Arnold,
This issue is related to another issue that was discussed on the http://scn.sap.com/thread/3247090
Till December all was well. Come January, after I run the consolidation package, the rule takes into account the balance from December for each month’s calculation:
There were 2 suggestions from the above post that i tried:
Check if “COPYOPENING” property in the Audit Trail dimension should not be “Y” -> It was Y for me but changing it to “N” did not solve my issue.
Opening Flow should be assigned “FLOW_TYPE” property with the value of “OPENING”
Both these are done in my system. But still the above issue exists. I also tried to change the rule to “Periodic” type but did not help.
What I basically want is for BPC to ignore the values from previous year and run the calculation based on only the current month’s data.
When we first faced this issue during January closing, as a temporary fix, we changed the “DATASOURCE_TYPE” property of the audit members used in Eliminations from A to M. This made the rule not consider December balances in the calculation.
But doing this gave rise to the doubling issue.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Shruti -
Hi,
we are using BPC 7.5 and we are trying to run a legal consolidation (SPRUNCONSO). The error we get is
CSD-120: No Entity - Method available
I have searched the forum for this error and found references to the ownership application. We do have one, it has data for the companies and period (plus previous year end) in question. I have checked the consolidation method used against those set-up (standard from Appshell, i.e. 90 and 86) and the rules we have created and it all matches and looks valid.
Our accounts in ownership are
PCON
POWN
PGROUP
METHOD
PMIN
Most of the dimensions used in the ownership cube (category, currency, entity, intco and time) are shared with the consol app, only the account dimension is specific to the ownership cube.
Does anyone have any idea what else I can check?
Thanks,
ArnoldDear Arnold
I think your problem is to assign the consolidation method to the entity
Into the administrator, define the consolidation method inside the business rule library
for example
90 for Holding
86 for Global
70 for proporcional
etc.
You have to create a input schedule, with the follow row and col
ROW
ENTITY
COL
CONSGROUP
O_ACCT
Afther that you can execute the package /CPMB/OWNERSHIPCALC to calculate the indirect plus direct consolithation percentage
I hope this work for you
Ariel -
Legal Consolidation: Entity structure question
Hi Experts,
Just want to ask if technical Entities are required in order for Legal Consolidation to work in SAP BPC 7.5 NW SP6? I'm using both R-Type (Currencies) and G-Type dimension (Conso Groups). In my first structure, I only have the following set up in my Entity and Groups dimension:
Entity Dimension:
ID EVDESCRIPTION PARENTH1 CURRENCY INTCO FX_TYPE ELIM
ALL_COMP All Company
COMPT1 Company Group 1 ALL_COMP
COMP1 Company 1 COMPT1 USD I_COMP1 Y
COMP2 Company 2 COMPT1 USD I_COMP2 Y
COMPT2 Company Group 2 ALL_COMP
COMP3 Company 3 COMPT2 USD I_COMP3 Y
COMP4 Company 4 COMPT2 USD I_COMP4 Y
Groups Dimension:
ID EVDESCRIPTION CURRENCY_TYPE ENTITY GROUP_CURRENCY PARENT_GROUP STORE_ENTITY STORE_GROUP_CURR CONSO_TYPE DATASRC_LEVEL STAGE_ONLY
GCOMPT1 Company Group 1 G USD Y A
GCOMPT2 Company Group 2 G USD Y A
NON_GROUP Non Group
In this set up, my Consolidation results in error "RUN_LOGIC:Accounts and entities do not match data in application OWNERSHIP". But if I change my set up to the following(with technical Entities), I don't get the error:
Entity Dimension:
ID EVDESCRIPTION PARENTH1 CURRENCY INTCO FX_TYPE ELIM
ALL_COMP All Company
COMPT1 Company Group 1 ALL_COMP
COMP1 Company 1 COMPT1 USD I_COMP1
COMP2 Company 2 COMPT1 USD I_COMP2
COMPT2 Company Group 2 ALL_COMP
COMP3 Company 3 COMPT2 USD I_COMP3
COMP4 Company 4 COMPT2 USD I_COMP4
ECOMPT1 Company Group 1 USD Y
ECOMPT2 Company Group 2 USD Y
Groups Dimension:
ID EVDESCRIPTION CURRENCY_TYPE ENTITY GROUP_CURRENCY PARENT_GROUP STORE_ENTITY STORE_GROUP_CURR CONSO_TYPE DATASRC_LEVEL STAGE_ONLY
GCOMPT1 Company Group 1 G ECOMPT1 USD Y Y A
GCOMPT2 Company Group 2 G ECOMPT2 USD Y Y A
NON_GROUP Non Group
Am I just missing some properties or set up in my first that's why I'm getting the error or do I really need to create technical Entities for consolidation to work??
Thanks,
MarvinHi nilanjan,
I was pertaining to the Entities with ID that starts with "E". Anyway, I tried removing the values "Y" for property "ELIM" in the Entity dimension and removed the values for "ENTITY" and STORE_ENTITY in the Groups dimension and I don't encounter the error and consolidation calculates okay.
Thanks,
Marvin -
Difference Between Legal Consolidation and Management Consolidation
Dear Experts,
Kindly help me to know
1) To Differenciate between Legal Consolidation and Management Consolidation Theoritically?
2) To Differenciate between Legal Consolidation and Management Consolidation Technically in BPC?
3) What is impact on /Difference on Business Process Flow in BPC in case of Legal Consolidation or Management Consolidation? (What should be done in Management COnsolidation and Legal COnsolidation in BPF in BPC)
Thanks in Advance
RiteshTrue accounting/legal consolidations encompasses the three following elements:
1. the general ledgers of the entities
2. elimination entries between entities (inter entity transactions such as sales/cost of sales, a/r and a/p etc.)
3. adjustments for partially owned entities
Using the legal app, rate and ownership apps, and the proper configuration, outlooksoft achieves a legal/accounting consolidation. Accounting consolidations also link to a legal hierarchy of entities.
Any consolidation that is referred to as management or financial consolidation etc. can have differing connotations. In Outooksoft software, management consolidations does not include item 3.
However, when the terms are used by the client they can have different meanings. They could mean either :
A true legal consolidation BUT tied to the Management hierarchy of entities (as opposed to a legal hierarchy) OR An aggregation without item 3 above and tied to the Management hierarchy of entities.
9 times out of 10, clients usually want the first rather than the second alternative. Financial statements
rolled up using legal consol should equal that using management consol.
However, when clients do planning, they may have their entities plan as if they were fully owned. They could also have their entities provide actals for less than 100% in the case of partially owned entities. In these cases, you have to adjust appropriately.
From an Outlooksoft config point of view, you need the legal, rate and ownership app and the related configuration for a legal consolidation. Management consol depends on client definition and client practice in the data that they collect from the entities.
In the area of BPFs, the key difference between legal and management COULD be the steps (1-3) and the maintenance of the different hierarchies and ownership values.
Hope the above helps. -
Template Blueprint for management and legal consolidation for BPC 7.0 NW
Hi Gurus,
Does anyone have a template buleprint document for starting with management and legal consolidation in BPC 7.0NW
If you have request you to share me the documents
appreciate your help and many thanks in advance
DeepakHi,
please find big volume of information from these threads
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/40b25a12-7082-2b10-5c86-c227b9397fb3?overridelayout=truehttps://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/b09d5f42-36a4-2b10-cb82-fa58febeb7c2?overridelayout=true
Re: Consolidation for SAP BPC
also you can get latest information from
http;//service.sap.com/pam
regards
nag -
Legal Consolidation VS Management Consolidation
Hi Gurus,
In the reporting application types
" Financial type allows to perform Management consolidation function and in Consolidation type allows to perform Legal consolidation function. "
What is the difference between Management consolidation and legal consolidation ?
I am bit confused can some one explain me what exactly it mean with an example??Hi,
For the consolidation purpose,the data record contains at least the following fields:
company
company-partner
Profit Centre
Profit Centre-partner.
For legal consolidation, only company-related data matters. Because Profit centre data will be taken from the other source.For management consolidation, only Profit centre-related data matters.
There will be 2 initial data sets, should be created as Consolidation Areas to meet the business requirements , for example ASML -Legal Consolidation,ASMM-Management Consolidation.This is as according to the best in practice approach to have different sets of data for legal and management reporting. Management is focused on per segment, per product reporting and statutory focused on the legal entity view.
Each consolidation area will only hold the relevant consolidation unit. That is, the statutory consolidation area will only hold company codes and will not post/process to profit centres at all. The management view will hold Company codes/profit centres (sub assignment object) and the users will post only to the relevant company codes/profit centres
Also Pls check these links...
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/FILC/FILC.pdf
http://help.sap.com/printdocu/core/Print46c/en/data/pdf/ECCS/ECCS.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_sem40bw/helpdata/en/67/f7e73ac6e7ec28e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Re: Synchronize Master Data between BCS and BW within the same SEM system
/message/1508507#1508507 [original link is broken]
http://sap.ittoolbox.com/groups/technical-functional/sap-sem/dataflow-from-r3-to-sem-bcs-950671
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/webcontent/uuid/6e01a04e-0a01-0010-dfbe-951c2c39d169
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw2004s/helpdata/en/c4/9057475ca611d4b2e30050dadfb23f/frameset.htm
http://www.sapprofessionals.org/?q=sem_bcs_key_design_considerations_for_integration_points
http://sapnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/03/sap-sem-bcs.html
http://www.pragmatek.com/news/BW%20Reprint%20Jun%202004.pdf
https://forums.sdn.sap.com/click.jspa?searchID=329906&messageID=549616.
Follow this link.
https://websmp103.sap-ag.de/sem
Pls chk under for more detils: Forums -> SAP Solutions-> SEM-BCS.
media library -> presentations -> SEM-BCS. Here u can find the relative document.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
CSM Reddy -
After upgrade BPC from 7.0 to 7.5 NW we facing issue in Legal consolidation
Hi
After upgrade BPC from 7.0 to 7.5 NW we facing issue in Legal consolidation where in case of equity knock off the amount is not get balanced even after we run legal consolidation package in group currency.
Regards
VikashHi sandeep ,
Hence the problem was not there with previous versions where the .js files were simply not compressed by default.
Solution :
I believe switching off javascript compression is a suitable option in this case as the script files are usually cached by the browser as well and will not be transmitted every time.
Kindly follow these steps:
1. Enter the J2EE Config tool.
2. drill down: Global Server Configuration->services->http
3. on the right hand side, click on NeverCompressed
4. on the bottom, add at the end: ,*.js
5. Apply the changes
6. restart the J2EE.
After this clear the browser cache and then log onto the portal and check if the issue gets resolve
I hope it will useful to you.
Thanks@ Re grads
G.srinu -
Built-in templates for Legal Consolidation in SAP BPC
Hi guys
I am doing a demo for legal consolidation and was wondering if there are built-in input scehdules (templates) in SAP BPC to assign the consolidation methods to entities (to let the system know how an entity needs to be rolled up in a group)?
Also are there any input schedules (templates) to enter the Ownership % and Control % for various subsidiaries under a parent?
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Ameya KulkarniI don't think any of the default applications come with pre-built input templates. The legal applications does come with a number of pre-configured business rules, but as far as pre-built input templates go none are available. That being said, it is pretty easy to build a simple input template using the dynamic templates that come with BPC. Starting with one of these you should be able to configure one of them for your demo without much trouble. Let me know if you need help with that.
Nick -
Error in running Legal COnsolidation Package
Hi All,
On running the legal consolidation package i am constantly getting the same error which is :
'RUNLOGIC:Dimension Set: "ENTITYDATAVALUE" not assigned in Data manager'
I have checked all the dimensions and it all seems to be proper. I tried altering the input of data manager to include ENTITY dimension but the manager did not run at all.
Please help me out. if anyone encountered the same error and has countered it pls share how to do so..
Regards
NavinHi,
I think you are using %ENTITY_SET% in your script. However, you are not prompting for the entity member in the DM package. You need to add the entity dimension in the prompt statement of the advanced script of the DM packge.
Hope this helps. -
When do we use legal consolidation?
Hello Experts,
Can you explain what is meant by legal consolidation & when do we use legal consolidation?Hi,
legal Consolidation is financial process for public companies are required under law to consolidate their accounts of their entire operations across globe to present a single view of their business.
In simple terms, legal consol is a process where all the operations are consolidated under the parent entity by looking at its economic interest in its daughter companies. The parent company has an ecomonic interest in the profits of its subsidiary companies as a result of its investment in them. so you consolidate against pre-determined rules.
Thanks,
Sreeni -
Hi Experts ,
Couple of days before , we restored the appset in the our development server .
After we did the procees all the dimensions and optimization all the application .
When i runned the legal consoldation , its running but no effect in the database .
This our legal consolidatio packaga file :
PROMPT(RADIOBUTTON,%CHEKCLCK%,"Select whether to check work status settings when running logic.",1,{"Yes, check for work status settings before running logic","No, do not check work status settings"},{"1","0"})
PROMPT(SELECTINPUT,,,"Please select category, entity and time for restatement",%CATEGORY_DIM%%TIME_DIM%%CURRENCY_DIM%)
TASK(Execute formulas,USER,%USER%)
TASK(Execute formulas,APPSET,%APPSET%)
TASK(Execute formulas,APP,%APP%)
TASK(Execute formulas,SELECTION,%SELECTIONFILE%)
TASK(Execute formulas,LOGICFILE,%APPPATH%\..\AdminApp\%APP%\LegalConsolidation.lgx)
TASK(Execute formulas,RUNMODE,1)
TASK(Execute formulas,LOGICMODE,1)
TASK(Execute formulas,CHECKLCK,%CHEKCLCK%)
I have one question here , we have the LGF file in the script login , but in the in package file it call in LGX.
R we need do anything ...
Regards
DayaWe done the both things .
I done the validated and save , then ran the legal consolidation , the package runned suceessfuly .
The data is not chnaged..
Is there any way to track the issue.....
In my view status , it showed as
TOTAL STEPS 1
1. Default Formulas: completed in 0 sec.
[Selection]
CHEKCLCK= Yes
(Member Selection)
Category: ACTUAL
Time: 2011.DEC
Groups: C_OLAM
Regards
Dayalan M -
Waht is legal consolidation?
Dear All,
What is legal consolidation?
What are the stept to do this?
b.s.raoRao,
Around the globe are volumes of legal regulations, or the equivalent, which require the reporting of consolidated financial statements and determine their contents. In addition, similar reporting regulations exist for listings on certain stock exchanges. In some cases, these consolidation regulations require (only) one consolidation on a legal entity level, but more in-depth details for particular statements. This is callled legal consolidation.
The statutory consolidation(Legal consolidation) requirements depend on the legal and taxation regulations in the country of the parent company. In complex structures of corporate groups, these requirements may differ from group level to group level. In many cases it is sufficient to include the legal entities as consolidation units. For groups that report according to US GAAP or IAS, business segment reporting is also required. Most local accounting principles also demand business segment reporting from companies listed on a stock exchange.
Hope this helps you.
Rgds
Manish
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