FI-SL : Deriving info from Profitability segment to Special Ledger

Hello!
I need to transfer to Special Ledger ( Field Movement ) information that resides in Profitabilty segment , such as Sales Organization ( VKORG ) or Distribution Channel ( VTWEG ) ,the moment I post to FI/CO !
Is there any expert that may help?
Thanks in advance!

KJ,
Do you have the step-by-step procedure for Time stamp setup (FI-SL).
or if you have any document on maintaing the sudo delatas for FI-SL. Pleae give send it to me.
Thanks,
Kiran

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