Fickering color correction on CS3

Hi:
When I do some color correction on a video clip for the first few seconds the color correction flickers.
Even on a the final rendered video.
Anyone know why or how to prevernt it?

You are correct that MPEG-2 is not the best source material, but sometimes one has to use what is handed to them.
I like the Fast Color Corrector for most color work. Often, the Color Balance (quite limited), will be good enough, though not that often - depends on the scene. The Three-Way Color Corrector is even better, but does require a bit more work with the settings.
I'd give Fast Color Corrector a run. Do not hesitate to experiment with it, observing what it's providing you with. I find it very useful.
Hunt
PS - I find the Auto (anything) to be pretty useless. About the same with the Auto Adjustments in Photoshop.
PPS - I normally do any Levels (not Auto Levels), and maybe Shadow & Highlight Effects BEFORE I use Fast Color Corrector. I'll then go back and tweak Levels and maybe S & H.

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Sorry for my newbness on this but I'm trying to make sure I'm not duplicating or undoing my work from one tool in another. I recently finished going through Scott Kelby's CS3 for Digital Photographers book and I'm a bit confused on some aspects of color correction. He starts out having you set WB, exposure, contrast settings, etc. in ACR. Then when you move it to PS he has you use the curves panel to color correct. Of course that entails using the black eye dropper and clicking on the blackest/darkest area of the photo, similar for the white dropper, and after a nice little trick to find the right spot......... an area for the midtone dropper.
The thing is I've noticed that once I make that first click with the black dropper, that nice contrast I had from ACR adjustments goes out the window and the photo brightens up a lot. The final steps of putting 3 points on the curve and dropping the blacks end and raising the whites end brings it back a bit but I was thinking isn't setting the WB with the dropper in ACR already color correcting? Even at the end of the book when he goes through his actual workflow using a provided .dng example he does all the ACR stuff and then moves to PS and uses the curves panel.

Noel,
I understand and respect your opinion about how you edit your images. To each his own.
But the original poster said: Sorry for my newbness. . .
So he's rather unfamiliar with Photoshop. Isn't it better to let new users learn a safer way to edit with the ability to return to their original image when they inadvertently make a hash of things? For the original poster and all the other inexperienced users that come to these forums, I like to let them know that there's the equivalent of a seat belt and an air bag that can save them a lot of grief.
I deal with files from graphic artists that have used Photoshop for years and have never even hear of an adjustment layer, a layer comp or a Smart Object.
They have files with 40 layers. 30 of which they have turned off since they have to make so many permanent uneditable filter adjustments with every slight variation of filter setting, just in case they might need a certain layer from 3 months ago when they tweaked one object in the file. So many of their issues could have been solved with simple adjustment layers.
I want people to understand the versatility of Photoshop and not just learn the same half dozen procedures and stop at that.
You are absolutely correct that for some uses an adjustment layer isn't necessary, But the OP said that he had forgotten the part he had read about adjustment layers and how he definitely wants to start using them. After my post he remembered that there was another new thing about Photoshop that he wanted to learn. Hurrah!
Perhaps in the future the OP will return to the forums to help out newbies like he once was himself.

Color corrections Premier CS3 !

Dear friends !!
Last night i was browsing through this forums and few other pages on the net and found a place ,like a tutorial about CS3 color corrections
I very much believe that was somewhere in this forums , where it shows step by step how to do color correction, I remember there was a picture of some kind of wooden cabin with a picture of drop and it was showing the graphs as well .
Any idea ? please
very much preciated .

I do not have the tutorial in question, but I can at least get you started with the effects you probably will be using. The two main CC's I will use are either the Fast Color Correction or the Three Way Color Correction filters. You can also get something out of this tutorial.
http://library.creativecow.net/articles/sareen_aanarav/basics_of_color_correction/video-tu torial.php

Color Correction plugin for Premiere Pro CS3....

Hi,
I'm looking for a plugin for color correction in Premier Pro CS3.
I checked out the Color Correction tools that ship with Premiere (which are nice) and I checked out Synthetic Aperture's Color Finesse 2 (which is great as well).
Are there any other recommendations ? ;)
Thanx for your help in advance !
Mike

I've not used it, but Magic Bullet Colorista is one option.

PS CS3 Color Correction plugin

Hi,
I've been doing a lot of color correction/adjustment lately in Photoshop CS3, Premiere Pro CS3 and After Effects CS3.
In Premiere Pro CS3 and After Effects CS3 I work with a plugin from Synthetic Aperture called 'Color Finesse' which is just so amazing to work with.
Unfortunately they don't offer that plugin for Photoshop.
I am looking for a Photoshop plugin that can provide the same depth and ease of use.
There are two things that I like especially in Color Finesse:
1. that u see the graph of each color channel (Master/Red/Green/Blue) aligned UNDER each other ALL the time
2. specific color channel correction/adjustment via RGB, CMY & YCbCr. Especially YCbCr is so powerful.
Is there a plugin for Photoshop that provides the same options ?
I worked with PS Curves, Curvemeister 3 & Power Retouche Pro but they don't provide the powerful controls and ease of use.
Thanx for your help in advance !
Mike

I've not used it, but Magic Bullet Colorista is one option.

Premiere Pro CS3 then After Effects CS3 for Color Correction?

Hello All,
I'm at a bit of a loss here, it seems like it's a no brainer to be able to do this. I'm trying to edit my film in Premiere and then use After Effects to do color correction using Color Finesse 2. But there doesn't seem to be ANY way to keep a project so you can continue to edit in premiere while you also keep all your color correction??
You can do color correction in AE and export a premiere project but premiere won't recognize the Color Finesse Filter so you lose all you color correction!
Or I can edit the whole project in premiere and open it in after effects to do color correction, but then if there is a single edit change that needs to be done in premiere again i've once again lost my Color Correction to bring it back.
Is this really the case that I can't use these expensive packages together this way? It seems like there has to be a solution! If Adobe just made it so Premiere kept the "links" to your filters in the project, instead of killing an unrecognizable one. Then when you opened it back in after effects after your edit your Color Correction would still be there.
Any one have any advice?
Thanks,
-Ethan

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, all good ideas.
Aanarav, Your idea to just get Color Finesse for premiere I suppose I could do. It's $545 which isn't exactly pocket change, but it would probably be worth it, if there is another way other than breaking the bank book for software I already own i'd like to try to get away with it.
Steven Gotz
Dynamic link is unfortunately a feature only of the production studio package which is like $1100 upgrade from what I have...so that's kinda out of the question for me.
Jon Sands
Great idea here. I really thought it might work since premiere seems to use what are called after effects plugin files too. But after copying and pasting for a while it doesn't look like it actually sees it as a plugin anywhere I paste it. :( If anyone knows of a way to get that to work I would be seriously grateful!
I guess it sounds like the only way out is to spend cash, sigh such is so often the case is seems.
-Ethan

Color correction

there was a thread on cs5 about this that interested me, so I started new thing here cause Im using cs3..
Shooternz, your help in the cs5 thread was great...and this is what I did....in my particular circumstances...
( I have to say that this is really the first time I'm sorta getting serious about CC and using the scopes etc...to try to learn this better )
I know the basics and the monitor stuff and the way people shoot properly exposed grayscale, color etc on set for calibration ( using film mostly in my experience, but done with digital too as I've seen )...
Sooo, here's the thing... I shot this clip as a test to see how long the music had to be to get a mssg across later on ( an insert shot that I will shoot on the day in the right location etc )... so this was a timing test sorta....didnt care about the lighting.
However, since I shot it I've tried to make it as good as I can ( why not ? )
I had a flourescent unit ( drop down ceiling 32K flourescents ) above...but it read about 36k on color meter and needed color correction at that ( LB and CC correction ..know what I mean ? )...so OK...who cares, its a test and timing only sooooo I dont put gels on the light and just shoot.
Soooo, I DID IN FACT put a grayscale down to fix it later if possible....even though it wasn't lit right....
This is what it looks like basically...
pretty terrible...very yellow and compressed tones etc...not good...
Soo, following your suggestions in thread in cs5, using waveform and vectorgraph, I come up with this instead..
WAYY BETTER ! ( thank you ! )....but...not perfect...thats OK, I didnt light it right...but better ....
Now, though, when I paste attributes of this to the clip in question I end up with this pixelation or "splotchy " stuff..as shown here
Now, my experience using psd tells me that if you try to correct too much, there's a sorta " limit" to what you can do, and things start just plain getting screwed up..."splotchy" like this... but if I had some way to just pick on the "yellow" gamma or something maybe I could get rid of it ....OR do a color replacement ( change ??? )... like pick out that particular color and change it to something closer to the white??? Have you ever dealt with this type thing ??? I know I started out all wrong to begin with but am wondering what you think ??
Thanks !
Rod
ps...this was a dumb test so please dont , you know, put much into this...I know I shot it all screwed up to begin with..

Hey Rod
Your CC looks fine and if the intention was to correct the col temp and exposure issue..you did fine. I see you have a full scale of tones in the greys.
Obviously you should start off with a correct exposure and that doesn ot necessarily mean a "technically correct" exposure.
You do not have to shoot and CC / grade to display the full range from Balck to white.
Its important to rember that the CC and grade (and the composition) are part of "the story" At times you will want crushed blacks and other times you may want a high key look or compressed tones in the mid. Then afetr the "tones" you think about what color tells the story.
Always..... Levels before Color correction!
BTW - the eye rules but ensure technically that the scopes confirm what you think you see.
Heres someof my images reflecting different CC for a "fit with the story"
Flat , clean,compressed mid tones, clinical ( a green screen BTW)
Dark , compressed toward blacks with detail in mids, juicy highlightsdramatic ( slo mo)
Full tonal range,hi color, "summer on xmas day"
full range color and tone, texture "yummy"
Clean and clinical mid ranges with slight color de-saturation of BG
FG grade to match bg (key) and fit time of day look.
Keep in mind...the above shots started in the photography and the cc / grade is enhancement.
Good luck mate.

Selective Color Correction - Adding to multiple channels

Hi - I am using CS3 on a Mac OSX 10.5.6
I am experiencing an oddity when making color adjustments with Selective Color Correction. I am working with RGB images trying to adjust to get colors in gamut and to maintain detail before converting to CMYK. As an example, I have an image comprised of various red items. I want to add cyan to get some detail for the highly saturated areas. Regardless of the Relative or Absolute setting, when I add cyan I am also getting a lot of black added. By the time I get a 3% dot in cyan I may have 10-12% K. When I reduce the black it also reduces the cyan.
Is this because I am in RGB mode? I want to make these adjustments before separating to CMYK so I can keep detail that is getting blown away in the conversion. I would have hoped that because it is controlled with sliders for CMYK it would isolate it's effects to the specific channel but that is not what is happening.
Any ideas?

I am working with RGB images trying to adjust to get colors in gamut and to maintain detail before converting to CMYK.
If you are trying to bring totally oversaturated RGB colors into the CMYK gammut, then ideally you will have to learn about channel mixing. It may be necessary to reproduce the Cyan channel (Red) by finding detail from other channels. Selective color, as you've discovered can only take you so far.
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I have PP CS3 and am trying to get a certain color enhancement look. I've been adjusting various levels in the color correction tools, but still can't seem to get the look I want.
For example.. here's a video of what i'm trying to Color duplicate.
http://vimeo.com/5699982
Can this be done in Premiere or After Effects? And if so, can you steer me in the right direction to adjust my video accordingly. Thanks
Danny

Danny,
A couple of things that I noticed were:
1.) on the wide shot of the spokesman and the display, the display area was either well lit, with light off of the background, or perhaps tweaked in post to darken just the background area.
2.) there was a fair amount of both yellow and red added in the CU's, as evidenced by the spokesman's skin tone.
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My requests:
1.) Please change the behavior of the 'Recovery' slider so that it attacks very-blown-out-highlights more rigorously than less-blown-out-highlights.
2.) Please add a 'Color Correction' slider to the Tone Curve that is analogous to the 'Color Correction' slider built into the 'Shadows/Highlights' tool in Adobe Photoshop & Apple Aperture.
To more clearly understand what I'm asking for, let me compare Aperture vs. LR's handling of Highlight Recovery, and why I prefer how Aperture recovers my highlights with its Shadows/Highlights tool vs. how LR recovers my highlights with the 'Recovery' slider OR Tone Curve.
1.) Aperture's 'Shadows/Highlights' tool recovers highlights by attacking the brightest parts of the highlights more harshly than the lesser bright parts of the highlights (th extent of luminosities attacked is adjustable using the 'High Tonal Width' slider). LR's "Recovery' tool doesn't seem to, among highlights, preferentially attack the brighter parts of the highlights over the less bright highlights. In fact, sometimes it leaves THE brightest parts of my image nearly untouched! I've posted an image below that shows this.
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Here is an image that clearly shows the different behaviors of Aperture's Shadows/Highlights tool vs. LR's Recovery tool vs. LR's 'Highlights' slider within the Tone Curve:
http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/HighlightRecovery_LRvsAperture.jpg
I believe that LR's 'Recovery' slider has much room for improvement (i.e. attack the blown-out highlights more harshly than the less-blown-out highlights), and the addition, to LR's Tone Curve, of a similar 'Color Correction' slider as Aperture's & PS CS3's very own 'Shadows/Highlights' tools have, would be very welcome.
Thank you for your consideration,
Rishi

More for your eyes to feast on:
http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/HighlightRecovery_LRvsAperture_2.jpg
http://web.mac.com/rishisanyal/Lightroom/LR_FailsToDecreaseBlownOutHighlights.jpg
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Aperture immediately gets rid of it with its Highlight slider, and Photoshop's 'Shadows/Highlights' tool also gets rid of it after a bit of manipulations/tweaking.
Now, I try to avoid Aperture at all costs, but, for all these images, seems like I need to use Aperture as my 'external editor' just to fix the highlights!
Any suggestions are very much welcome & appreciated.

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I am new to the forums but have been with Adobe since CS3. I love Premier Pro and have fully abandones FCP 2-3 years ago for the first CS5. I was out shooting a SONY F900, which i am not used to (as I work primarily with small format and dslr workflows) and I made the TOTAL ROOKIE MISTAKE of shooting on the 1A rollable filter setting... rather than the 1B which is for indoor tungsten. I didn't have a monitor with me or available, so through the BW view finder... i had no idea it was wrong. The result is that I lost a stop and a half in an already lowlight setting... and the minus blue filter of the 1A (or daylight / 56K) setting removed color depth and turned every thing kind of washed out orange.
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http://forums.adobe.com/community/photoshop
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