Field recorder (Zoom H4n) and CanonHFS100 workflow?

Hi all,
Hoping someone can describe an efficient way to work with a zoom h4n and final cut pro. I'm able to capture fine from my camera using log and transfer, but I will be adding audio from a field recorder to the mix.
I'm aware there is a plugin which can sync sound in the absence of timecode, i think it's called PluralEyes? But I'd like to learn to use timecode information too.
The Zoom recorder can produce .bwf files. Can FCP read these?
Do I need to use a clacker and sync every clip by hand? When I do this, how do I 'link' the audio and video?
I've been reading all I can, and everything I've gathered from conversations around the net seem to indicate that yes, there are ways to get it working... and I'd love to hear specifics about how people work with this kind of setup (integrating sound recorded separately)...
Best, Chris

Hi there,
Did you by any chance ever find a solution to your problem with the H4n?? I'm having exactly the same problem. I think it might have something to do with a preference file. I didn't disconnect the zoom properly before unplugging it, and since then I am having the same problems as you??? Very frustrating....
Thanks.

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